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BarryRX 08-05-2012 04:55 PM

Shooting at Sikh Temple
 
Police are calling the killing of 7 people at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin an act of domestic terrorism. My thoughts and prayers go out to the Sikh community.

bkcunningham1 08-05-2012 05:01 PM

What does that mean, @BarryRX? Domestic terrorism. I've been watching and reading about this all afternoon and missed the news conference with the police. Has the shooter been identified? Did they find a note?

BarryRX 08-05-2012 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 534596)
What does that mean, @BarryRX? Domestic terrorism. I've been watching and reading about this all afternoon and missed the news conference with the police. Has the shooter been identified? Did they find a note?

I'm not sure yet. The newscasters said they held off labeling it as such until the investigating police used the term. Some more terrible news on Yahoo. An officer responding to the call for help stopped to help a victim in the parking lot and was ambushed by the shooter and shot. I am praying for this hero and his family.

mfp509 08-05-2012 05:18 PM

My thoughts and prayers go out to the victims, their families, and their community, also.

Figmo Bohica 08-05-2012 05:28 PM

Let's see, killing of US soldier, while yelling, Allah Akbar, is work place violence, but shooting in a Sikh temple is domestic terrorism. This administration needs to get it act together.

It terrible, but we need to lose the PC and start putting bad guys in jail for long time and leave law abiding citizen alone. Use a firearm in the commission of a crime, life in prison, hurt someone, no matter how slight, death penalty.

janmcn 08-05-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by bkcunningham1 (Post 534596)
What does that mean, @BarryRX? Domestic terrorism. I've been watching and reading about this all afternoon and missed the news conference with the police. Has the shooter been identified? Did they find a note?

The shooter had not been identified at the time of the press conference, nor was a note found. Since the incident has been labeled domestic terrorism, the FBI will be in charge of the investigation. Another news conference is scheduled at 10:00am tomorrow.

It's sad that people are not safe in their own churches, or at the movies, or at a meet and greet with their congresswoman.

asianthree 08-05-2012 05:40 PM

:ohdear:

Taltarzac725 08-05-2012 07:16 PM

It looks like a hate crime against a specific group of people--probably because they look like Muslims to ignorant people. The Ft Hood shooter was mentally ill and a Muslim. I do not believe he singled out any one group but just shot other soldiers indiscriminately.

My heart goes out to the survivors of this terrible crime.

bkcunningham1 08-05-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 534633)
The shooter had not been identified at the time of the press conference, nor was a note found. Since the incident has been labeled domestic terrorism, the FBI will be in charge of the investigation. Another news conference is scheduled at 10:00am tomorrow.

It's sad that people are not safe in their own churches, or at the movies, or at a meet and greet with their congresswoman.

Thank you. My husband told me about the press conference scheduled for in the morning.

It seems a little strange that the police said domestic terrorism so quickly without even releasing a name or a motive. I suppose we will know more in the morning. Yes, it is beyond sad that there are evil people in this world. Peace.

RichieLion 08-05-2012 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 534707)
It looks like a hate crime against a specific group of people--probably because they look like Muslims to ignorant people. The Ft Hood shooter was mentally ill and a Muslim. I do not believe he singled out any one group but just shot other soldiers indiscriminately.

My heart goes out to the survivors of this terrible crime.

So if an American Muslim is shooting "indiscriminately" at American soldiers while yelling Allahu Akbar, that's not a "hate crime" or an act of "domestic terrorism".

If someone yet unidentified is shooting Sikhs "specifically" for reasons unknown, that IS a hate crime and domestic terrorism.

I'm never going to be able to keep this straight.

Taltarzac725 08-05-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RichieLion (Post 534716)
So if an American Muslim is shooting "indiscriminately" at American soldiers while yelling Allahu Akbar, that's not a "hate crime" or an act of "domestic terrorism".

If someone yet unidentified is shooting Sikhs "specifically" for reasons unknown, that IS a hate crime and domestic terrorism.

I'm never going to be able to keep this straight.

He went crazy. It does not look like he was acting out of hatred towards the US. He went nuts at work. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting So, the government (not Obama per se that I know of anyway) labelled this a work place shooting like when a postal employee shot up his work place probably not because he hated the US government. The postal employee went mad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Sherrill

gerryann 08-05-2012 09:43 PM

The Sikh community in Milwaukee needs your prayers as does the police officer who is still in critical condition.

golf4me 08-06-2012 06:17 AM

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I guess you're entitled to you own biases.[/quote]


The Sikh people have never as far as I know did anything to harm anyone. They are Hindu and no part of their philosophy is like the Quran that wants to get rid of all infidels.. if that is what you are thinking. They are from India, they are Hindu. We had neighbors up north that were Sikh. Don't let the head covering get you confused with people who do suicide bombings. They are not the same. Not all Eastern religions are to be lumped together.

Their philosophy is one of ethics and kindness and responsibility, ...and in case you are wondering. I am a Republican and a Catholic.

Moderator 08-06-2012 06:32 AM

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bkcunningham1 08-06-2012 08:00 AM

FBI officials have backed down from calling this "domestic terrorism." From what I've read in the Milwaukee
newspaper:FBI: Motive in Oak Creek Sikh temple shooting unclear - JSOnline, apparently (a) tattoo(s) on the dead alleged shooter led someone to say it was "domestic terrorism." I personally think it is unprofessional, irresponsible and very dangerous to make statements like this so soon after a killing rampage without hard evidence to back it up.


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