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angel222 08-07-2012 11:14 AM

patio villa vs. 2 bedroom courtyard villa
 
I have a friend looking to buy in TV and needs help deciding between the patio villas and a two bedroom courtyard villa. If anyone can comment on pros and cons of each, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

cathyw 08-07-2012 11:38 AM

There's some good info on these threads.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...os-cons-55700/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/fo...a-types-53535/

justjim 08-07-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by angel222 (Post 535608)
I have a friend looking to buy in TV and needs help deciding between the patio villas and a two bedroom courtyard villa. If anyone can comment on pros and cons of each, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

We had a patio villa (cabot cove) when we first moved to TV. Loved it and learn to really like the Lanai being in the front where you interact with neighbors. If your friend has a dog or just wants a little more privacy then the courtyard villa. If money is a major factor, the patio villa is somewhat cheaper. Less maintenance on either that has the vinyl siding.

Barefoot 08-07-2012 12:59 PM

It's all about a back yard. Courtyard Villas cost more but have a private back yard, and generally seem a bit larger and brighter. Great for pets. But Patio Villas are delightful and perfect for someone who doesn't need a yard. Excellent for Snowbirds or Singles. You do have a lanai in front.

John_W 08-07-2012 03:30 PM

We had made a plan like that, then everything changed. May 2011 we sold our home in Maryland in one day after listing it for sale. We had just left TV two weeks earlier on our LSV and had toured many models.

We picked out a Cabot Cove patio villa with white cabinets in Buttonwood for $140,000, and were hoping that someone wouldn't buy it before we could. With a $10,000 bond I figured for $150,000 we could be in the home free and clear.

When we had the contract, it was cash offer with no contingencies and the money was guarantee. I called my salesman from Maryland to put a deposit on the Cabot Cove. As I was talking to him on the phone, I started browsing the masonry CYV's on the homes for sale website. They only 8 CYV's listed, all were in Southern Star Villas in Tamarind Grove. They had four 2 BR Woodlawn's (now called a Durham). I noticed the price on them had been reduced from about $169K to about $163K, this caught my attention. While we were talking one those Woodlawn's was reduced again to $156,900. After my salesman confirmed the price, our whole plan changed and we bought that 2 BR masonry CVY.

Here's something you won't get with a patio villa, a privacy fenced backyard.

http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/605/backyardt.jpg

Looking from my driveway down the street.

http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7303/streeteg.jpg

Single Track 08-11-2012 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by angel222 (Post 535608)
I have a friend looking to buy in TV and needs help deciding between the patio villas and a two bedroom courtyard villa. If anyone can comment on pros and cons of each, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

I just bought a patio villa in one of the new villages. This past May and June I happened to rent a courtyard villa in Hemingway. As a single woman I felt so isolated and very much alone while in the house. I felt that every window faced a high white fence and I very rarely saw anyone in the neighborhood unless they were getting in or out of their car or golfcart. I am really looking forward to sitting on my patio out front and seeing something besides high white walls.
Of course if I were married, I might enjoy the privacy afforded the CYV but for now my preference would be for a patio villa. Good luck with your decision.

asianthree 08-12-2012 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Single Track (Post 538583)
I just bought a patio villa in one of the new villages. This past May and June I happened to rent a courtyard villa in Hemingway. As a single woman I felt so isolated and very much alone while in the house. I felt that every window faced a high white fence and I very rarely saw anyone in the neighborhood unless they were getting in or out of their car or golfcart. I am really looking forward to sitting on my patio out front and seeing something besides high white walls.
Of course if I were married, I might enjoy the privacy afforded the CYV but for now my preference would be for a patio villa. Good luck with your decision.

married and feel the same i love sitting on the front patio and seeing the world go by

bonrich 08-12-2012 06:04 AM

We had a CYV as our first home in TV. After about 18 months we sold it because of me. Yes, there is privacy, but as stated before, never get to see or meet neighbors easily. I could hear them talking somewhere on the other side of fence, but could not see them or easily have a "neighborly conversation". If you are on the short side of height, impossible. I did miss the opportunity see and greet neighbors and to enjoy the interaction of a "neighborhood".

bargee 08-12-2012 06:08 AM

Patio Villa
 
We have lived in a Patio Villa for the past 12 years.We are very satisfied with it.We experienced living in a CYV and while very nice I felt isolated.I don't know why someone would say they only suit seasonal residents or single people however each to their own.

Barefoot 08-12-2012 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 535674)
... Patio Villas are delightful, and perfect for someone who doesn't need a yard. Excellent for Snowbirds or Singles.

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Originally Posted by bargee (Post 538611)
I don't know why someone would say they only suit seasonal residents or single people.

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I didn't mean to offend. I didn't say they only suit seasonal residents or single people! I think Patio Villas are an excellent option for anyone who doesn't require a back yard, and that includes couples and Frogs. I just thought that perhaps Snowbirds or Singles would want to avoid the cost and hassle of doing yard work.

jimbo2012 08-12-2012 11:12 AM

Another comparison is the patio villa v the cottages,

The patio villas are now about 140K to start and cottages start at 155K

John_W 08-12-2012 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbo2012 (Post 538834)
Another comparison is the patio villa v the cottages,

The patio villas are now about 140K to start and cottages start at 155K

If you're only comparing via price it's not as close as you think. The patio villa bond is about $11,000 vs the cottage at about $21,000, that's $10,000 more you need to add to the cottage price. Also the patio villas unless on a corner lot are almost all right around the $140,000 range or less without a vaulted ceiling. On the otherhand, cottages might start at $155,000 but you'll almost see none at the price, more likely $165,000 to $185,000 is more like it. Also they are only building spec cottages, so your selection will be the same as a patio villa, it's whatever the builder wants to offer.

jimbo2012 08-12-2012 12:46 PM

John, there are two today at 156K. about 15 below 170K

Bond more, sure look at the size of the lot 40x60 v 60x90, that only adds $50 a month to the bond.

Plus you are getting 500 sq ft more house?

So say you get 500' for 20K more that's only $40 a sq ft????

Really less when you consider you're also getting 3000 sq ft MORE of land.

Just need to weight the options across a spread sheet and the patio villa doesn't always win.

We started with one in March then went to a cottage, but when they stopped custom we switched to a designer.

I did crunch the numbers hard.

angel222 08-12-2012 02:01 PM

Thanks so much everyone for all your comments...decisions are easier to make with information. My friends concerns also are that in a patio villa community she won't have any real neighbors if they are mostly rentals...does any patio villa community have more year round residents?

mickey100 08-12-2012 03:14 PM

We found there was a difference in noise level between the 2 types of villas. Our friends have a courtyard villa, and when their neighbors are out on their lanai talking in just normal voices, you can hear it very clearly on my friend's lanai. We used to own a patio villa, and it was always very quiet, we could not hear our neighbors due to the way the homes are set up and constructed. We landscaped the front yard with trees and larger shrubs, which made it seem very private visually as well.


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