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billethkid 09-22-2012 07:05 PM

Queen Palm seeds (big green ones like a giant bunch of grapes)?
 
Does anyone know if the green grape looking seeds that form from the pods are poisonous?

Our dog cannot pass one up.

btk

Patty55 09-22-2012 07:09 PM

I know Sago palm seeds are, is this the same kind of tree?

pooh 09-22-2012 07:29 PM

This page may answer your questions..... Your Dog is Eating What? - Veterinary Center at Fishhawk

Other info I've read online says the seeds can cause a blockage....they are very fibrous, though the squirrels seem to enjoy them....:)

mrfixit 09-22-2012 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 558693)
This page may answer your questions..... Your Dog is Eating What? - Veterinary Center at Fishhawk

Other info I've read online says the seeds can cause a blockage....they are very fibrous, though the squirrels seem to enjoy them....:)

....Yes...please, look at this site.......Then.....
........................Above the Tag-line "your dog is eating what"......

.................................................. .......................CLICK on "Next Entry"..... this forum will light up like the 4th of July.

Opulence 09-24-2012 12:53 PM

any updates?
 
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Originally Posted by billethkid (Post 558681)
Does anyone know if the green grape looking seeds that form from the pods are poisonous?

Our dog cannot pass one up.

btk

BTK- I was wondering how your dog is doing? Hope all is well, please let us know.

Betty

travelguy 09-24-2012 06:04 PM

are you serious? if they were don't you think that animals would be dropping all over the place?

billethkid 09-24-2012 06:24 PM

of course I am serious!! Do you think I am just making sport for cheap shots....not being specific:laugh:.

Sego palms and their seeds are toxic...the entire plant and all from it.....Sego palms are in very many yards here....and no there are not dogs dropping over all over the place.

So the conclusion is....as long as dogs are not dropping all over the place the plants in the yard are OK.....:doh:

btk

travelguy 09-24-2012 06:48 PM

ouch...
there are many plants that are poisonous, but one would have to injest such large quantities. for example, poinsettias. unless you are planning to make a salad from the leaves i would not worry about it.
and by the way, they are called Sago Palms(and they are not really palms but cycads)

Patty55 09-24-2012 07:14 PM

Another plant that is highly toxic to animals and people is Oleander, the leaves, flowers and sap all highly toxic. If you're playing with it you should wear gloves.

Skybo 09-24-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by travelguy (Post 559394)
there are many plants that are poisonous, but one would have to injest such large quantities. for example, poinsettias. unless you are planning to make a salad from the leaves i would not worry about it.
and by the way, they are called Sago Palms(and they are not really palms but cycads)

The question was about plants that are poisonous to dogs. And it’s a valid question. Some dogs have no interest in eating vegetation, while others view anything in the yard as their personal buffet. The size of the dog also determines how susceptible they are to toxic plants. While a few leafs or a couple of seeds from a toxic plant might not pose a problem for an 80 pound dog, it might make a 40 pound dog sick and it might kill a 5 pound dog.

Serenoa 09-25-2012 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Patty55 (Post 559404)
Another plant that is highly toxic to animals and people is Oleander, the leaves, flowers and sap all highly toxic. If you're playing with it you should wear gloves.

Sorry, but that's just pure hogwash. Studies have found there is NO toxicity associated with exposure to human or animal skin. I handle oleanders all the time taking cuttings to root, and have never had so much as a rash. And you would have to intentionally ingest lots & lots of leaves just to make yourself sick.

So.....Not to worry. Enjoy your oleanders!! :icon_wink:

Nerium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

duffysmom 09-25-2012 10:41 AM

Angels Trumpet is a highly toxic plant that you will see all over TV.
They are poisenous to animals.


Angel’s Trumpets are in the Solanaceae family, therefore it’s in the same family that petunias, tomatoes and potatoes. Hailing from South America, remember that these beauties love and need damp conditions with warm days and of course cool nights. Nevertheless, caution is highly recommended: Angel Trumpets are extremely toxic. And we can say that the Angel's trumpet or well known as Brugmansia are extremely poisonous (all part of the angel trumpet). The plant is smoked or ingested just for its narcotic effects and can be deadly poisonous and some people who have done this with the plant are no longer with us, so don’t try it. The use of angel trumpet as a landscape plant is banned in some municipalities. The effects caused by ingesting these plant are that you may feel so intense (known as a “high”), similar to have taken an overdose of Dramamine. You'll loose consciousness and began to know something is wrong, After that you would have difficult to breath or walk. The effect can last as long as your body endures the toxins, some people who have been on these conditions talk about their experiences and they agree with this effects that are exposed in this page, some have stopped breathing about three or three and a half hours later, and they were taken to an hospital. Some people in the period of detoxification become really aggressive and in some cases they had to be tied to their beds or tables; even with persons with no violent temper. The hallucinogenic effect in humans experimented by ingested or smoked the angel trumpet plant are similar to those of the belladonna, a plant extremely and deadly poisonous, the effect is that dilate the eyes for the atropine contained in this plant. It may be similar when you do drugs with barbiturates.

Patty55 09-25-2012 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 559618)
Sorry, but that's just pure hogwash. Studies have found there is NO toxicity associated with exposure to human or animal skin. I handle oleanders all the time taking cuttings to root, and have never had so much as a rash. And you would have to intentionally ingest lots & lots of leaves just to make yourself sick.

So.....Not to worry. Enjoy your oleanders!! :icon_wink:

Nerium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

From Petco.com

leander

Toxicity Rating: High. Ingestion of even small amounts can kill.

Dangerous Parts: The entire plant is toxic. Consuming leaves, fresh or dried, will poison most dogs.

Symptoms: Gastrointestinal irritation, cardiac abnormalities and death, which may be sudden.

Plant Description: Oleander grows as an indoor plant in the northern United States and as an outdoor shrub in California, Florida and other warm regions. The leaves are lance-shaped, thick and leathery, and grow opposite each other. Sometimes leaves may grow in whorls. The leaves are 8 to 10 inches long, although smaller specimens will have shorter leaves. Flowers are showy, approximately 1 to 3 inches in diameter, and grow in large clusters at the ends of the branches. They can be white or any shade of pink or red.

Signs: Oleander contains the toxins oleandrin and nerioside, which are very similar to the toxins in foxglove (digitalis). Oleander is not palatable, but may still be eaten by hungry dogs. Dried or wilted leaves may be slightly more palatable than fresh leaves, but the leaves are toxic when wilted or dried. In one report, approximately pound of leaves (about 30 or 40 leaves) delivered a lethal dose to an adult horse.

Clinical signs may develop rapidly, and the dog may be found dead with no prior warning. In other cases, depression coupled with gastrointestinal distress is evident: vomiting, diarrhea (which may be bloody), and abdominal pain. Irregularities in the heart rate and rhythm will occur: the heart may speed up or slow down and beat erratically. As the toxicosis progresses, the extremities may become cold, and the mucous membranes pale. Trembling and collapse can occur, followed by coma and death within a few hours.

First Aid: If dogs are observed eating oleander, contact a veterinarian immediately. The toxin acts quickly and is lethal in small amounts. Emergency measures may be used to empty the gastrointestinal tract of remaining plant matter, and medications may be administered to control the effects that the toxin has on the heart. Despite emergency care, the dog may still die, but the sooner treatment is begun, the better the chance for survival.

Prevention: Be able to identify oleander and exercise extreme caution when pets (and humans) are in the vicinity of these plants. Never place oleander where your dogs can have contact. Take extra care in cases where leaves can fall into a yard or a pen occupied by a bored or hungry dog. Animals and humans can also be hurt by oleander, even without touching the plant. Breathing the smoke or burning branches can cause poisoning, and merely smelling the flowers may be harmful.

I don't think a "rash" is the problem.

Patty55 09-25-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Serenoa (Post 559618)
Sorry, but that's just pure hogwash. Studies have found there is NO toxicity associated with exposure to human or animal skin. I handle oleanders all the time taking cuttings to root, and have never had so much as a rash. And you would have to intentionally ingest lots & lots of leaves just to make yourself sick.

So.....Not to worry. Enjoy your oleanders!! :icon_wink:

Nerium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did you read the link you pasted? From your link

Oleander is one of the most poisonous of commonly grown garden plants.

Down Sized 09-25-2012 11:45 AM

Lets play nice now!!


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