Who has memories of growing up in a Polish neighborhood or Polish family?
 

Golumpki (Polish Stuffed Cabbage) Recipe « Table Talk



Who has memories of growing up in a Polish neighborhood, Polish family or Polish church??



Who remembers Golumpki (Polish Stuffed Cabbage rolls) ??



CLICK ON ABOVE HYPERLINK FOR STUFFED CABBAGE RECIPE....SUPPOSED HEALTHIER VERSION........although I still make the original......



This *recipe is “altered” from the traditional of ground pork (or beef), white rice, sauteed onions, however, the folding of the green cabbage leaves as shown is good for beginners.


My Ukrainian mom made them , my Polish mother in law made them..........and I made them for most of the past almost 50 years........



*Supposedly, this is a healthier version (turkey may be substituted). My mother in law would make a meatless variety for Christmas Eve Villeja with basically rice / onions....but we all preferred her ground pork filling, naturally.



Keep scrolling to the bottom (for the photos) of the recipe page............on above hyperlink....FOR INFO ON VILLEJA.........pronounced villea......spelled below as Wigilia in Polish language.


My mother in law did arrange the hay/straw on the table, as below.....and always had the Oplatek wafer to pass around the table..........on Christmas Eve.



I continued on with this custom during our marriage after my mother in law passed......for our children and for my husband.

However, after they all left for college, they informed me they didn't care for stuffed cabbage, etc. So, traditions end.



I doubt if anyone at all in the family is continuing on with these traditions........so the memories will suffice.



My Italian dad liked the "seven fishes" for Christmas Eve, but my mom would make the stuffed cabbage at other times. She spoke Ukrainian and Polish as did her mother. She would tell me how the priest would come around and bless the bread and food.

Ditto for my Polish mother in law.....same custom. I doubt if this still happens. I think the Ukrainian priests might still come around to bless the food for the "third wave of immigrants" as they call them.......Christmas and Easter time both.



Wesolych Swiat Bozego Narodzenia! That is the way to say "Merry Christmas" in Polish. Among Poles, wherever they are, the most beloved and beautiful of all traditional festivities is that of Christmas Eve. It is then that the Wigilia, or Christmas Eve Dinner is served. It is a solemnly celebrated occasion and arouses deep feelings of kinship among family members.

For days in advance, Poles prepare the traditional foods and everyone anxiously awaits the moment when the first star, known as the Gwiazdka, appears in the eastern sky. For that is when the feast to commemorate the birth of the Christ Child begins.

There is always a thin layer of hay under the white tablecloth in memory of the Godchild in the manger. Before sitting down at the table, everyone breaks the traditional wafer, or Oplatek and exchanges good wishes for health, wealth and happiness in the New Year. This is such a deeply moving moment that often tears of love and joy are evoked from the family members who are breaking this symbolic bread. The Oplatek is a thin, unleavened wafer similar to the altar bread in the Roman Catholic Church. It is stamped with the figures of the Godchild, the blessed Mary, and the holy angels. The wafer is known as the bread of love and is often sent by mail to the absent members of the family.

The dinner itself differs from other evening meals in that the number of courses is fixed at seven, nine or eleven. According to myth, in no case must there be an odd number of people at the table, otherwise it is said that some of the feasters would not live to see another Christmas. A lighted candle in the windows symbolizes the hope that the Godchild, in the form of a stranger, may come to share the Wigilia and an extra place is set at the table for the unexpected guest. This belief stems from the ancient Polish adage, "A guest in the home is God in the home."

The Wigilia is a meatless meal, no doubt the result of a long-time Church mandate that a strict fast and abstinence be observed on this day before Christmas. Although the Church laws have been revised and permit meat to be eaten on this day, the traditional meal remains meatless. Items that would normally be included in a traditional Wigilia menu include mushroom soup, boiled potatoes (****ofle), pickled herring (sledzie), fried fish, pierogi, beans and sauerkraut (groch i kapusta), a dried fruit compote, babka, platek, assorted pastries, nuts and candies.

After the meal the members of the family sing Polish Christmas Carols called the koledy while the children wait impatiently around the Christmas tree or choinka for the gifts to be exchanged.

Aside from the beautiful Wigilia, the Polish people have a number of other traditions that they practice throughout the Christmas season. Polish Christmas Carols or koledy are numerous and beautiful, especially when sung in Polish parishes at the Christmas Eve Mass. This Mass is called the Pasterka, which means the Shepherds Watch, and there is popular belief in Poland that while the congregation is praying, peace descends on the snow-clad, sleeping earth and that during that holy night, the humble companions of men - the domestic animals - assume voices. But only the innocent of heart may hear them.

Christmas Day itself is spent in rest, prayer, and visits to various members of the family. In Poland, from Christmas Day until the twelfth night, boys trudge from village to village with an illuminated star and a ranting King Herod among them to sing carols. Sometimes, they penetrate the towns in expectation of more generous gifts. In some districts, the boys carry on puppet shows called shopky. These are built like a little house with two towers, open in the front where a small crib is set.

During the Christmas season, the theaters give special performances. On the feast of the Epiphany, the priest and the organist visit the homes, bless them and write over their doors the initials of the three wise men - KMB (Kasper, Melchior and Balthazar) - in the belief that this will spare the homes from misfortune.

The Christmas season closes on February 2, known as Candlemas Day. On that day, people carry candles to church and have them blessed for use in their homes during storms, sickness and death.

Wesolych Swiat, Bozego Narodzenia i Szczesliwego Nowego Roku!


The Meaning of Oplatki (Christmas Wafers)

The celebration of Christmas by American families is enriched spiritually when time honored "old country" traditional customs are adopted. These practices serve to downplay the secular emphasis that has made of this holy time more of a "sell-ebration". These customs reemphasize what this great celebration is all about - the proclamation of the "good news" for all humankind of our redemption.
An especially popular custom is the sharing of the "Oplatek" or Christmas wafer, also known as "Anielski Chleb" or Angel Bread.
For the people of Poland and other Western Slavonic nations the "Oplatek" has always had a mystical quality.
The "Oplatek" is much like the unleavened wheat hosts used at Mass. Different Christmas scenes are embossed in the baking process.
For Americans, the "Oplatek" represents a reverent tie to the customs of "the old country." The observance that takes place on Christmas Eve becomes a sign of unity and solidarity with all members of the family, neighbors, and friends. Even absent members of the family receive an "Oplatek" by mail as a sign of their communion with their loved ones at home.

BOTH MY ITALIAN DAD AND MY UKRAINIAN MOM WOULD TELL US CHILDREN THAT THE ANIMALS COULD TALK ON CHRISTMAS EVE....THE ONLY TIME OF THE YEAR THAT THEY COULD SPEAK.
AND WE BELIEVED THEM.

Went to Polish Grammar School, and my GrandParents were from Poland. I never met my grandparents, but loved the Polish food, and traditions. My wife will occasionally make me Perogy, and Golumbki. I actually made a big pot of Cabbage soup last night. I love cabbage! The Polish Deli in Leesburg, has good Kielbasa, Bigos, and Veal Loaf. I wish there was a good Polish restaurant near The Villages.

Cabbage rolls...YUM!
 

Our German neighborhood in the south end of Columbus, Ohio abutted the Polish parish of St. Ladislaus. Sweetie and I went to many Polish weddings there with kids I went to school with and at every one of those wedding receptions they served Cabbage Rolls. They were slightly different (and I think better) than our German interpretation of them.


I know I would LOVE anything coming from YOUR kitchen, Senior.

And I know you have lucky kids and family. Your caring attitude is obvious.

AND...of course the animals talk on Christmas Eve. Of course.

Waiting to chat with Mikey, our kitty, again.( It's all in his eyes...)

My mom always said she was raised on cabbage soup and potato soup.**
Now that Polish restaurant would be a great change from the same old same old. You open one and we will come. Ukrainian food is nearly identical. Also miss the babka.

**Ditto for beet soup.

I get Blue Seal Kielbasi from Chicopee Massachusetts. They UPS it with the Millies Pierogies which are as authentically home made tasting as my mother made them and my mother in law.........plus myself as a young mom. Now it's easier to buy them ready made and keep in freezer all winter long.

P.S. TO PETE:
My husband also went to Polish Grammar School....Saint Casimirs.
His grandparents were also from Poland but their towns are now in Ukraine. Lviv/Lwow.
Rzezow I think is still in Poland. The borders changed so much since it was POLAND, then AUSTRIA HUNGARY, THEN divided again after WWII.

My Ukrainain grandmother's village is now in Podkarpackie Poland......but when she came as a 14 year old orphan from Poliany Surovichyny SANOK (Sianik) it was in Austria Hungary (as Ukraine did not exist) but she knew what she was as a "White Russian" but not a Russian....a Rusyn from Keiven Rus (....Ruthenian....now called Ukrainian)..........she lived near the Carpathian Mountains.

So many memories of my Polish childhood. My parents spoke Polish at home thinking we all kiddies couldn't understand. But lo and behold, we all understood and knew exactly what they were saying. Eventually we spoke the language as well. Yes, we made traditional stuffed cabbage and pierogies and chruscicki (a crisp fried treat) and we still celebrate the Christmas Eve traditional meal after all these years. Until I left PA we also did the Easter tradition of blessing the food. Very specific items that had religious significance. Priest used to come to the house years ago but now we took our food to a communal blessing at the church. Each year the were fewer that kept up the tradition. My sister still does it. Too many membories to write here but great growing up with ethnic culture and tradition.

Memories
 

Thank you for bringing back those memories that we all shared. Going and having our Easter Dinner blessed at church, the men's choir singing Polish Xmas Songs at Midnight Mass, The golumki and periogi's.....so many memories. My father speaking so lovingly about Poland and growing up with his sister's and brothers. Again, thank you so making me think about all these wonderful things.

When I grew up in the Detroit area, there were many, many hard working and friendly polish people. My "people" were Slav's from Yugoslavia and my grandparents immigrated from there. First came my Grandfather who got a job and built a home. Then came my Grandmother in an arranged marriage. They were wed in Cleveland and migrated to Michigan. I still make some of my Grandmothers recipies as well as some from our polish neighbors.
About 5 years ago I was able to travel to Krakow Poland and spent 10 days with absolutely wonderful people and eat great food. The history and the people made me feel warm and fuzzy inside as the memories of childhood flooded back.

Be wonderful to have a Polish restaurant near TV...my husband was born in Poland and since we have been married I have had yummy and fattening food!!Too bad there isn't a Polish club anymore...we are only renters for mar and Apr but would still join if we could.

Polish
 

Went to St. Stanislaus grammar school. Still can understand polish but don't speak much of it anymore. Still have polish xmas eve with the extended family (about 70-80 people). What a great time!

Anyone got a recipe for kapusta.

We had a Polish Community Center in the town I grew up in. Many people had their wedding receptions there. Their roast beef dinner was a staple and for only $7 a plate.

Those days are gone....... :sigh:

Ahhh... Blue Seal Kielbasa is excellent (as good as Martin Rosol in New Britain, CT). Used to stop by the market in Chicopee when driving my daughter to UMass. Having lived in MA for 38 years, we would frequently get Millies Pierogis. Have to ever been to Galemo's (spelling?) in Worcester? Homemade Veal Loaf, and fantastic Kielbasa. There were some great Polish Restaurant in New Britain, CT. I was raised a couple of towns from there.
Now I need to find out how to UPS the Blue Seal, and Millies....

I also went to St Stanislaus, but in Bristol, CT. Never learned to read, or write too much Polish, since the nuns only brought out the Polish grammar books a few times a year. However, I still know a lot of Polish "phrases". They just seem to slip off the tongue, like it was yesterday.

You experienced it all for a much longer time than we enjoyed.
Great memories for sure.

Were you from the Pittsburgh area?

My mother was Ukrainian Greek Catholic but they did the same exact things as the Polish R.C. with the blessing of the food, etc.

She would always tell me "Grandma celebrated her Christmas on January 6 or 7".....that was the Orthodox or Russian Christmas; different calendar.

The holidays were simpler, yet more profound in those days..........not as commercial as today. Not as much big ticket gift giving that's for sure.......

Basically, it was a religious holiday as you state above.

You are very welcome. Thank you for reading it.

My mother in law would take us to Midnight Mass when we lived in New Jersey. She is gone now, but I still remember.

It all seemed more simple, yet precious back then.........

I wish I could "enlarge" my Polish genealogy as I have my dad's Italian side..........but it is challenging (with the border changes and the language barrier, etc.)