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spk7951 01-05-2013 05:58 PM

What is wrong in our society?
 
In the aftermath of the Newton tragedy there have been some outlandish activities by people as it related to that tragedy:


1. An administrative employee of the CT state coroners office allowed her husband access to the morgue to view the body of the killer before his autopsy. Strictly against policy and this person is suspended pending investigation that could lead to termination.

2. A lawyer tried to file a $100M lawsuit against the state on behalf of a survivor of the massacre. Supposedly the lawyer was soliciting the survivor families to see if anyone would hire him.

3. A Bronx woman posted on Facebook that she was related to a victim and received thousands of dollars in donations before being arrested.


I am baffled and outraged that people would do things like this especially after this kind of tragedy. Just what is going on with our society today???

Madelaine Amee 01-05-2013 06:06 PM

Sick society
 
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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 604412)
In the aftermath of the Newton tragedy there have been some outlandish activities by people as it related to that tragedy:


1. An administrative employee of the CT state coroners office allowed her husband access to the morgue to view the body of the killer before his autopsy. Strictly against policy and this person is suspended pending investigation that could lead to termination.

2. A lawyer tried to file a $100M lawsuit against the state on behalf of a survivor of the massacre. Supposedly the lawyer was soliciting the survivor families to see if anyone would hire him.

3. A Bronx woman posted on Facebook that she was related to a victim and received thousands of dollars in donations before being arrested.
I am baffled and outraged that people would do things like this especially after this kind of tragedy. Just what is going on with our society today???

In my opinion we are a very sick society, and I see no immediate way out of this mess. Too much hatred in all walks of life.

BarryRX 01-05-2013 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 604412)
In the aftermath of the Newton tragedy there have been some outlandish activities by people as it related to that tragedy:


1. An administrative employee of the CT state coroners office allowed her husband access to the morgue to view the body of the killer before his autopsy. Strictly against policy and this person is suspended pending investigation that could lead to termination.

2. A lawyer tried to file a $100M lawsuit against the state on behalf of a survivor of the massacre. Supposedly the lawyer was soliciting the survivor families to see if anyone would hire him.

3. A Bronx woman posted on Facebook that she was related to a victim and received thousands of dollars in donations before being arrested.


I am baffled and outraged that people would do things like this especially after this kind of tragedy. Just what is going on with our society today???

of course the people you mentioned are idiots, but the bigger question is why our country seems to lead the way in mass killing tragedies. As a pharmacist, I believe that my profession may contribute. Due to the development of effective antipsychotic in the 60's, we now have many people out in society where before the drugs they would have been institutionalized. This trend has severely reduced the funding and staffing of many mental health facilities so we are less able to recognize mental illness when it occurs and less equipped to treat it. Please note everyone that this is not a comment about guns.

graciegirl 01-05-2013 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Madelaine Amee (Post 604415)
In my opinion we are a very sick society, and I see no immediate way out of this mess. Too much hatred in all walks of life.


I would have to agree.

gomoho 01-05-2013 06:33 PM

Our society has lost its moral compass. Violent video games, violent rap music, sex thrown in everyone's face, drugs glorified, unmarried women having babies just cause they want to, and a constant attack on our Judeo/Christian values by a minority that gets held up in our court system. Is it any wonder??? And excuse me for being political, but a government that condones and encourages handouts. Buckle up 'cause I am afraid it is only going to get worse before it gets better.

janmcn 01-05-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by spk7951 (Post 604412)
In the aftermath of the Newton tragedy there have been some outlandish activities by people as it related to that tragedy:


1. An administrative employee of the CT state coroners office allowed her husband access to the morgue to view the body of the killer before his autopsy. Strictly against policy and this person is suspended pending investigation that could lead to termination.

2. A lawyer tried to file a $100M lawsuit against the state on behalf of a survivor of the massacre. Supposedly the lawyer was soliciting the survivor families to see if anyone would hire him.

3. A Bronx woman posted on Facebook that she was related to a victim and received thousands of dollars in donations before being arrested.


I am baffled and outraged that people would do things like this especially after this kind of tragedy. Just what is going on with our society today???

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 604428)
Our society has lost its moral compass. Violent video games, violent rap music, sex thrown in everyone's face, drugs glorified, unmarried women having babies just cause they want to, and a constant attack on our Judeo/Christian values by a minority that gets held up in our court system. Is it any wonder??? And excuse me for being political, but a government that condones and encourages handouts. Buckle up 'cause I am afraid it is only going to get worse before it gets better.

In the first quote, number 2 and 3 are people trying to make a buck off of a senseless tragedy. Sadly, it happens all the time and has nothing to do with violent video games, rap music, sex, drugs, unmarried women having babies or an attack on our Judeo/Christian values.

Monkei 01-05-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 604428)
Our society has lost its moral compass. Violent video games, violent rap music, sex thrown in everyone's face, drugs glorified, unmarried women having babies just cause they want to, and a constant attack on our Judeo/Christian values by a minority that gets held up in our court system. Is it any wonder??? And excuse me for being political, but a government that condones and encourages handouts. Buckle up 'cause I am afraid it is only going to get worse before it gets better.

I am not sure that attacks on Christianity are happening and I doubt that even if it were it is not why society is currently trending downward. We do have violence in music and video games for sure but we also have seriously sick mental cases walking our streets and no way to care for them, unless it seems they commit a horrendous crime.

There is surely a lot to blame on society's woes but it goes much deeper than the normal ones you stated. This country does not educate their youth, has made it impossible to send our kids to college without being very rich or have a kid fortunate to be 7-2 and able to dunk a basketball or being a 5 star athlete in certain sports. Our country's healthcare is one of the worst of the civilized nations, we have a broken political system where one party is praised for saying no and the other not able to capitalize on it.

You could go on and on on the reasons but a once great nation is no longer controlled any longer by its citizens but by mega rich companies and lobby's which control the elected officials who once upon a time used to work for us.

cbg150 01-05-2013 07:05 PM

"...And excuse me for being political, but a government that condones and encourages handouts. Buckle up 'cause I am afraid it is only going to get worse before it gets better."

For a second I thought you wrote HANDGUNS...to think I was actually going to agree with you!

ijusluvit 01-05-2013 08:36 PM

Our's is NOT a sick society! On the whole I'd prefer to think that there's even a little more good than evil out there.

Our society is identical to all of the others in the world, and the same as those which have preceeded us. I'll be so bold as to predict this pattern will continue indefinitely into the future.

Every society has it's "bell curve" distribution of generally good, law abiding folks, with the sprinkling of saints and devils out on the fringes. Personally I think this is the way the Creator intended it, so that we could look at the whole spectrum and then decide what kind of a person we would like to be. And I think that is exceptionally cool.

Don't be fooled by the media. The devils are just getting more attention now than when Genghis Kahn was running around.

mgjim 01-05-2013 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ijusluvit (Post 604484)
Our's is NOT a sick society! On the whole I'd prefer to think that there's even a little more good than evil out there.

Our society is identical to all of the others in the world, and the same as those which have preceeded us. I'll be so bold as to predict this pattern will continue indefinitely into the future.

Every society has it's "bell curve" distribution of generally good, law abiding folks, with the sprinkling of saints and devils out on the fringes. Personally I think this is the way the Creator intended it, so that we could look at the whole spectrum and then decide what kind of a person we would like to be. And I think that is exceptionally cool.

Don't be fooled by the media. The devils are just getting more attention now than when Genghis Kahn was running around.

I'm inclined to agree with you. It seems like every generation is critical of the next one and believes that the youngsters are going to Hell in a handbasket. I suspect the behavior identified by the OP has been around for a long time.

ilovetv 01-05-2013 10:45 PM

I think the behavior listed in the o.p. is fed by a lot of really poor upbringing and lack of moral training and character-building. What we've seen a lot in "upscale" neighborhoods as our kids were growing up was total lack of supervision of the kids--they were left alone at an early age and were left to their own devices. They roamed the streets like dogs and the parents would act like somehow, the kids would one day just magically turn into honorable citizens. These were wealthy families, not poor ones. Negligent or no parenting is a trend in all socio-economic levels.

And from what I see, there are fewer parents making sure their kids get a religious education that is relevant and engaging and useful in everyday life. Formation of a person's conscience is aided by being immersed in moral role modeling and with disciplined practice.

Nobody has the answers to all this....this is what I've seen and believe has contributed to a lot of twisted and amoral behavior.

gomoho 01-06-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by janmcn (Post 604434)
In the first quote, number 2 and 3 are people trying to make a buck off of a senseless tragedy. Sadly, it happens all the time and has nothing to do with violent video games, rap music, sex, drugs, unmarried women having babies or an attack on our Judeo/Christian values.

However, the OP's question was "what is wrong in our society"?

gomoho 01-06-2013 10:26 AM

"I am not sure that attacks on Christianity are happening" Really??? Why do you think people now say Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, and the kids can't pray in school, or mention God at their commencement. Why the city of Las Cruces NM had to go to court to keep their city seal of 3 crosses? and on and on. Oh yes, there is an attack on values, don't kid yourself.

2BNTV 01-06-2013 10:32 AM

I agree that one generation seems to be more critical of other generatons. I also believe that a certain segment of the population are always looking to profit off of other's misfortunes.

We hear about it lot more from the media so it seems lot a lot more but in reality, it may be about the same. It does sicken me that certain people are always looking for an angle.

I notice a lot more people tend to be less article in the spoken word and a general attitude towards disrespect. It is always refreshing to see younger people who have been raised right and present themselves in a good light.

graciegirl 01-06-2013 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 604524)
I think the behavior listed in the o.p. is fed by a lot of really poor upbringing and lack of moral training and character-building. What we've seen a lot in "upscale" neighborhoods as our kids were growing up was total lack of supervision of the kids--they were left alone at an early age and were left to their own devices. They roamed the streets like dogs and the parents would act like somehow, the kids would one day just magically turn into honorable citizens. These were wealthy families, not poor ones. Negligent or no parenting is a trend in all socio-economic levels.

And from what I see, there are fewer parents making sure their kids get a religious education that is relevant and engaging and useful in everyday life. Formation of a person's conscience is aided by being immersed in moral role modeling and with disciplined practice.

Nobody has the answers to all this....this is what I've seen and believe has contributed to a lot of twisted and amoral behavior.

I have to agree. People sometimes allow people to take full control over their children who they would not allow to drive their car.

Think about it. It isn't the BIG things that teach values, it is the little things, the attitude, the unread verbal clues. Care for our children is one thing and having a vested interest in them is sometimes another thing.

Moms and dads are best to raise children and grandparents too. Sending them away to be cared for means that you don't know the child as well as if you were with him/her all the time.

It requires choices. For a long time we had ONE car and a small house. It didn't seem to harm our kids.

So many changes to family life and not much good coming from them....in my life time and in my opinion.


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