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Grannynance 01-15-2013 07:15 PM

Morse blvd
 
Drive east on 44 there is a lot of construction and it looks like a road is been built it is just west of the lake county line. Could this be where Morse will connect with 44. The area is about half a mile from lake Eaton.

llaran 01-15-2013 08:37 PM

Morse will exit to 44 near where 468 goes south

GaryW 01-16-2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by llaran (Post 609718)
Morse will exit to 44 near where 468 goes south

That is correct. Morse will join 44 at the junction of 468. Then the new turnpike junction will be at 468 and the turnpike if that continues and goes thru in the next 2 years. Will be a very nice area once it is completed. That area east of 468 will be houses a big Regional rec center. Think it will be calle Cypress Glen.

Cedwards38 01-16-2013 06:57 AM

What are these roads, and are they significant? Major thoroughfares?

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 01-16-2013 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 609839)
That is correct. Morse will join 44 at the junction of 468. Then the new turnpike junction will be at 468 and the turnpike if that continues and goes thru in the next 2 years. Will be a very nice area once it is completed. That area east of 468 will be houses a big Regional rec center. Think it will be calle Cypress Glen.

Do you mean the Florida Turnpike?

Grannynance 01-16-2013 09:19 AM

Heard all these stories before as to where Morse will connect to 44. Guess I will just wait and see.

GaryW 01-16-2013 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Winston O Boogie jr (Post 609880)
Do you mean the Florida Turnpike?

That be the one....

Sumter County Master Plan Construction Map has Morse dumping onto Hwy-44 at intersection of CR-468. Do not think that has changed at all yet..
Both of those roads are busy roads.

bike42 01-16-2013 09:53 AM

Villages - linked buyer recently acquired a strip of properties leading from the southern end of Buena Vista/Brownwood to the Florida Turnpike. Take a look on the Sumter County Property Assessor's website. What does this mean?

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bike42 (Post 609975)
Villages - linked buyer recently acquired a strip of properties leading from the southern end of Buena Vista/Brownwood to the Florida Turnpike. Take a look on the Sumter County Property Assessor's website. What does this mean?

Ummmmm.......uhhhh......well.....lemme think here - - - :D

Bill :)

OldDave 01-16-2013 10:36 AM

Bike, could you provide a link. I cannot find anything with that name. And how do you know the buyer is linked to TV?

Bill-n-Brillo 01-16-2013 02:04 PM

Dave, look up an owner's name of "North Tract LLC" on Sumter County Property Appraiser - - - Record Search.

Bill :)

NJblue 01-16-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 610114)
Dave, look up an owner's name of "North Tract LLC" on Sumter County Property Appraiser - - - Record Search.

Bill :)

I guess I'm missing it. I only see a reference to an address in Palm Beach Gardens associated with North Track. Is there another link that shows ownership of North Track that I'm not seeing?

OldDave 01-16-2013 05:09 PM

When you do the search several come up. The first on on the list is lot 16 and it lists the villages as the owner. I don't know about the others, but the parcels are all together, basically east and northeast of Brownwood.

gmcneill 01-16-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GaryW (Post 609839)
That is correct. Morse will join 44 at the junction of 468. Then the new turnpike junction will be at 468 and the turnpike if that continues and goes thru in the next 2 years. Will be a very nice area once it is completed. That area east of 468 will be houses a big Regional rec center. Think it will be calle Cypress Glen.

GaryW is direct on-point. In my mind, it's not "if" that continues but "when" it will be completed.

A check of sumterpa.com GIS map of the likely Turnpike-468 intersection shows that Villages-related owners own land adjacent to and stretching out from three of the four corners of that intersection. (I deduce that the owners are Villages-related based on the address listed for the respective holding company owners).

Consequently, there is no doubt that the intersection will happen and that area will be quite developed; with an outlet-type mall the leading contender?

What foresight! The parcels were purchased over a period of a couple of years, 2003-2005.

One of the parcels is listed as agricultural-sugar cane….I am no sugar cane farmer, but judging from the GIS map, that parcel is awfully arid for a sugar cane field. ;)

The smallest of the parcels was purchased for $200K…an exorbitant amount when compared to the prices paid for neighboring parcels. Did someone actually get the better of “the developer” in a real estate transaction!?

I am amazed at the Morse Family perspicacity, risk assessment and risk taking skills, and ability to make their visions become realities. I would never begrudge them for that.

OldDave 01-16-2013 07:54 PM

Thanks for that web site. It was a real eye opener. You know when I first asked about this the other day, someone said this had all been debated before and there was nothing to find so I shouldn't bother.

Well, perhaps it's the reporter in me, but generally it is hard to do stuff this large without some information being there. Sumter County has great on line stuff that is pretty easy to use. And there was a load of information there. Several owners with the same address, which is the Citizens Bank in Lake Sumter.

Who knows what the developer will finally decide, but as someone said earlier if you had a press that just kept printing money, why wouldn't you.

Clearly they own and/or control huge parcels of land south and east of Brownwood. They can keep building for a long time to come. And I think the outlet mall might be a good idea, although those along highways have not done as well in recent years as those close to big attractions, i.e., Orlando.

Either way, they have the land to surround Brownwood and then some, as I originally asked about. Thatt proposed interchange on the Turnpike will make a great front door to all the new areas.

Is it good or bad. I'm not in any position to judge, but sure looks like they can keep building.

The biggest question is whether the IRS will finally rule and all the subsequent appeals are run. If they cannot do the tax free bonds, I'm sure they'll find another way to do it.

Clearly people love the place. And hell I just asked Lyle to find us some houses to look at, so I'm part of the swarm coming in.

Thanks to all for the great research.

Dave


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