Accident on Morse
 

another accident on Morse this morning - north of 466, travelling south

usual story - car driver turning right into San Marino takes out golf cart going straight on

There is a "Yield" sign ahead of the turn, but it is a jumble of pictograms which may confuse a non-resident - by the time they have deciphered the message it's too late

When driving my car and making a turn it isn't always easy to see a golf cart or recumbent bike closing in on you so I pull into the golf cart lane just before the turn (with my signal on) to make the turn.

Hopefull there's no one on a bike or cart there when you pull into the cart lane to turn.

I guess I wasn't clear. I pull into the cart lane when it's CLEAR just before turning so that I don't run into a cart or bike zooming past. Think about it....

If the vehicle is using their turn signals to turn, the cart or biker should be aware of the car turning and come to a halt. Something like - would you rather be right, or dead right.

yes that's a good idea. We have the same problem as we're taking a right onto our street from Odell. We pass by golf carts and sometimes unsure as we're taking our right exactly how far behind the are. So going into the golf cart lane isn't a bad idea because it forces the golf carts behind you to slow down as you're making your turn. No one gets hurt that way.

I had a close call on Morse while making a right hand turn, I was the one driving the car the guy with the soiled shorts was driving the golf cart. I had my turn signal on well in advance to worn the cart drivers of my intent. At this point I know something is not right, the next day I went to the Sheriff’s office on 466 and talked to the man. He said, “I pull into the cart lane so the carts can not pass me when I am making a right turn. The carts have the right of way but you can enter the lane because it is defined by a white line not a yellow line”. After that explanation and my concerns being put to rest, I was about to walk out the door I then decided to share my thoughts about round-d-rounds with the Sheriff, for that I got a pamphlet with colored diagrams. In my mind a round-d-round should be one lane but then what do I know.

So bottom line duffysmom the Sheriff agrees with you as do I.

That is the right way to do it!:agree:

I do exactly the same thing when I'm making a right turn. I wait until the lane is CLEAR, and then pull into the cart lane with my signal on.

I saw an accident earlier this week where a commercial van turned right and hit a golf cart, driving it up onto someone's lawn.

Yes - always worth checking their turn signals and hanging back

I apparently do not understand the accident scenario. It would appear that an intersection such as San Marino and Morse that the vehicle in the lead would have the right a way. If a golf cart is ahead of a car and appraoching the intersection the car driver should hold back to give the golf cart time to pass or turn right. if the golf cart is behind then the car should give vehicles a warning of a turn 100 feet prior to the turn. what occurs to often is a car will speed up to pass a cart to turn cutting the golf cart off. Or the golf cart behind a car fails to see the car driver's turn signal or the car driver fails to signal. It would seem an illegal to move a car into space provided for a golf cart. It would further seem dangerous because the car my fail too see a golf cart and cut a direct path into the golf cart direction of travel.
I'll make book that in most of these cases one of two things occurs or fails to occur. Either the car driver or the golfca driver fail to notice the other or their signals or the car tried to speed up in front of the cart to make the turn

Duffysmom's approach should be obvious to everyone. But how many times have you seen a golf cart make a left from the golf cart lane rather than from the car lane? Not only do they run the risk of being hit by a car but even by another golf cart passing in the car lane.

That is what I heard the first time. Well Said.

I have seen them do that and that is wrong. We must treat them both as vehicle lanes. One small and one large, but the rule of driving law is the same as if you are on a normal four lane highway. You must yield to the person occupying the lane at that moment regardless of it being a car or a cart.

Simply put, this is the one time the golf cart has the right of way. If a car is turning and the cart is going straight (whether a right or left turn), the cart is to proceed through and then the car go. If the car is in a certain position, the cart or bicyclist cannot see the vehicle's turn signals.

The Deputy Sheriff may feel it is okay to move in the golf cart lane but I've talked to other deputies who say it is not okay -- cars belong in their lane, golf carts in theirs unless the cart is in a merge situation or turning left. Basically, by moving into the multi-modal path, you are forcing the vehicle that has the right of way to slow down for you. Not exactly fair, is it?

Personally, I slow down and let the car turn ahead of me. It's not worth fighting about and even though I would be in the right, I'd be just as injured because some driver didn't know the law and couldn't read a basic sign.