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EdV 04-19-2013 02:18 PM

County approves Spruce Creek South golf cart crossing over 441.
 
The crossing will be at the main entrance to SCS on the west side and Sun Trust Bank on the east side.

Spruce Creek has been working this issue for more than 5 years now and was initially turned down by the Florida DOT. After completion of a new traffic study earlier this year, It was approved by Marion County and Stonecrest residents and the Florida DOT has indicated it will approve it once the county provides some additional needed paperwork.

Here’s a link to an ongoing blog regarding the SCS Golf Cart Crossing.

p.s. don’t shoot the runner.

happy employee 04-19-2013 02:54 PM

it's for a golf cart crosswalk. NOT a bridge over the highway. As someone who drives this stretch of highway daily, i feel sorry for anyone trying to cross 441 in a golfcart.. i hope your insurance is paid up.

gomoho 04-19-2013 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by happy employee (Post 662453)
it's for a golf cart crosswalk. NOT a bridge over the highway. As someone who drives this stretch of highway daily, i feel sorry for anyone trying to cross 441 in a golfcart.. i hope your insurance is paid up.

Are you kidding me??? Bashing this because it is not a bridge??? I will guarantee you the majority of Village residents would take advantage of a crossing on 441 if it were available. If you can't say something nice - don't say anything at all. Geez can't we be happy for someone once in a while!

EdV 04-19-2013 03:40 PM

As a street legal cart owner who crosses 441 frequently, I am extremely cautious doing so. In particular, I keep my eyes peeled for a vehicle in the right hand lane barreling through making a right on red turn and T-boning me.

One of the FDOT requirements for approval was to increase the red light delay. So the north/south traffic on 441 will be on for 5 seconds before the crossing lights turn green.

gadaboutgal 04-19-2013 05:41 PM

I'd like to see a golf cart crosswalk at the corner of Bueno Aires and 441 and then another one to cross over Rolling Acres from one shopping center to the other at the corner of 441. I don't think they would be any less safe than trying to cross on foot as I have done many times (and I know for sure that I am not the only one to cross Rolling Acres to get to the other shopping center.

jkpender 04-19-2013 09:02 PM

EdV would this allow Stone Crest residents to cross 441 and have access to the Urgent Care or CVS through Spruce Creek?

chuckinca 04-19-2013 10:48 PM

Reading the Spruce Creek South Blog it indicates that cart traffic from Stonecrest (and TV) would have to enter Spruce Creek South's main gate and use their roads and back gate to the Terrace Shops (Urgent Care, CVS, McDonalds, Office Depot, DMV etc). To get back to the other side the carts will have to wait at the back gate and tail gate behind a SCS resident who opens the gate (may be a half hour or so wait at the gate). SCS commentary in the blog is mostly against letting non SCS residents on their roads. At the same time, the roads on the East side of 441 across from the SCS main gate are owned by the Stonecrest Developer and the east bound traffic will have to use those roads to access Walmart and places south (if Progress Energy continues to allow it).

I have heard that a cart path from the 441 crossing before the SCS main gate to the Terrace Shops is being considered to alleviate non residents entry to SCS. I believe it would have been appropriate for Stonecrest to require the bypass cart path prior to allowing SCS use of the Stonecrest roads.

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Golfingnut 04-20-2013 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 662460)
Are you kidding me??? Bashing this because it is not a bridge??? I will guarantee you the majority of Village residents would take advantage of a crossing on 441 if it were available. If you can't say something nice - don't say anything at all. Geez can't we be happy for someone once in a while!

:agree:

EdV 04-20-2013 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by chuckinca (Post 662690)
....I have heard that a cart path from the 441 crossing before the SCS main gate to the Terrace Shops is being considered to alleviate non residents entry to SCS. I believe it would have been appropriate for Stonecrest to require the bypass cart path prior to allowing SCS use of the Stonecrest roads....

I think Stonecrest developer Hall Robertson actually suggested that in response to the request for approval by Stonecrest. Actually a short cart path before the SCS guard gate of ~50 yards into the medical building parking lot would work. In the meantime, I expect carts will be driven ~200 yards along the tree belt adjacent to 441 and then enter the parking lot and on to access the Terrace Shops.

The new crossing will also provide Stonecrest and TV residents a relatively low cost access to the Links at Spruce Creek golf course.


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