Stand Your Ground Law
 

The media and NAACP have conveniently decided to preach "the stand your ground law" that was not even invoked in the Zimmerman trial is one of the reasons young black men are getting killed. Stevie Wonder even said he won't perform in states that have a "stand your ground law".

Here's an idea - how about reforming or locking up all the gansta thugs we might need to "stand our ground" against. I am so tired of being portrayed as some "crazy ass cracker" that is running around looking for any opportunity to kill a young black man 'cause he might look suspicious. Time to look within and see where the problems really are originating from.

Put all this effort into educating these young men and give them an opportunity to have a future other than on the streets. Teach them the importance of not being a baby daddy to anyone woman that will lie down for them, but the importance of being a father to their next generation. Give them role models that aren't rappers preaching the nasty way to live and treat women. So much needs to be done in these communities and it has to start with their leaders - well I may have just answered my own question. Who and where are their leaders???

:bigbow: well said. I will stand my ground and I believe if enough do, the need to do so will be reduced. Only the sheep get sheared. Violence needs to be met head on.

The juror that came forward did say they took into account the stand your ground law.

I am not a gun person. I am not an NRA person, but according to the second amendment, people have a right to carry a gun if they have a permit. Unless I feel a huge change in my life and surroundings, no one will change my mind that I need a gun.


I have to say this. There aren't so many robberies of tourists since the stand your ground law was passed and when they changed the license plates on rental cars. The bad guys don't know who has a gun. I think because we have in Florida a large percentage of older folks that makes it a little different than most states.

I think what gomoho just said is very thought provoking. I find it hard to respect healthy able bodied people who don't work and be responsible for their children .

I am definitely not a NRA person. I feel they scare people half to death with all there silly conspiracy theories. I have no problem with CCP and every household having a means of protection, but I also feel we need to stiffen gun control laws to keep them out of the hands of criminals. I guess that makes me conservative and liberal at the same time. LOL

For non-Floridians...we used to have our county on our license plate. Rental cars did not have the county. Where we would have had Sumter, they had Lease...jokingly referred to as "Lease County".

That obviously marked the car as tourists, meaning maybe an easier mark. Quite a few years ago the state did away with Lease County. I think it was probably the best change ever!!

Now we all say Sunshine State :).....smile my own!

The Tampa Bay Times examined 200 "stand your ground" cases and found that the law has worked to free killers, drug dealers and violent attackers whose self-defense claims seem questionable at best. In nearly a third of the cases examined by the Times, defendants initiated the fight - and still went free.

The Times says the most productive way to change Florida's "stand your ground" law to recognize that individuals who initiate confrontations are not then immune from responsibility of the consequences. "The law as it stands is an invitation for more bloodshed and heartache, and a society more divided."

The law has exonerated dozens of people deemed to be legitimately acting in self-defense - and allowed drug dealers to avoid murder charges and gang members to walk free after shootouts.

Check out this comprehensive Times investigation of Florida's "stand your ground" law at tampabay.com/stand-your-ground-law.

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"The media and NAACP have conveniently decided to preach "the stand your ground law" that was not even invoked in the Zimmerman trial is one of the reasons young black men are getting killed."

Well, I doubt that Illinois has a "Stand your ground" law, so why then is THIS mess happening and having a blind eye turned to it by all the same people screeching since this media circus in FL:

"There were 67 people shot and 11 killed over the long Independence Day weekend in Chicago. Of the 67, eight were shot, with one killed, in a single Saturday evening attack in the West Side neighborhood of Lawndale."

Chicago Murders Soar: 67 Shot, 11 Killed over July 4 Weekend--So Far

AMEN. Well said and sad but true.:coolsmiley:

I AGREE, gomoho!!

Ok what's your plan to educate?

Here is an idea.....STOP TALKING and START LISTENING...

to folks like Bill Cosby and his ilk..and there are many, BUT

They cannot get on the stage....the Sharptons, etc talk loud and that is who you and others listen to.

How can stand your ground law not have been part of the trial when the words Stand Your Ground were part of the judges instructions to the jury.

George Zimmerman was a 'self defense' case. He was in a position where he could not exit and he feared for bodily harm, he used his weapon as his only means to fight back. A 'stand your ground' defense means the shooter has an exit but has decided to stand his ground against a hostile person and uses his weapon to defend himself rather than flee.

As far as concealed weapons permits in Florida, I believe there is about 900,000 of those out of 17 million people, so that's about 1 in every 20 citizens. One thing I have noticed about Florida, do you remember any school, theater, mall or workplace mass shootings like we see in other states? Especially states that have stricter laws like Connecticut, Arizona, California, Colorado, etc. I think that most lunatics actually have a plan of action, it's been shown for everyone of them. When they do their planning, they do realize that besides police, that in Florida there may be many other weapons they'll be going up against.

Those of us who have had some drunk stick a gun in our faces have a problem with any law that makes it easy for people to have a carry permit.
It is my understanding that Florida is a state that makes it easy to obtain a carry permit, it makes me more than a little scared. I am sure that those of you who are on here would have no trouble getting a carry permit in the states that make it hard to get one.
If I am wrong about the ease of owning a gun and getting a carry permit in Fla please respond as it would make me feel safer.