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Golfingnut 07-30-2013 05:00 AM

The Pope on Gay Priests
 
I would think he made the day for thousands of gay priests giving them the opertunity to come out. Very bold move for the Catholic Church. :pray:

Taltarzac725 07-30-2013 06:23 AM

Pope Francis.
 
Very brave move by the Pope. I really like this man's philosophy and life story.

rubicon 07-30-2013 06:27 AM

Don't get me started. This is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed these pedophiles to thrive

gomoho 07-30-2013 06:36 AM

If priest are not supposed to be sexual - how is this okay?

janmcn 07-30-2013 06:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 716595)
If priest are not supposed to be sexual - how is this okay?


When the pope said "Who am I to judge?", he could have been speaking to the general population and not only to fellow priests.

jane032657 07-30-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 716592)
Don't get me started. This is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed these pedophiles to thrive

Excuse me but being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia. The sexual abuse of children by Priests has nothing to do with sexuality, it has to do with opportunity, power, control, and abuse. Being gay is no different than being straight, except in who you choose for your partner. Life is the same and your assumption to me in mortifying.

Golfingnut 07-30-2013 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 716592)
Don't get me started. This is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed these pedophiles to thrive

I disagree, giving them the avenue to come out, will also give them the OK to come out and free them from unneeded guilt. There are and always will be gay priests, so allow that fact to surface and you will have much less child molestation. Making the Priests hide their true feelings is what causes the perversion. Being open, nonjudgmental and loving rather than being prejudicial will improve the scandalous Catholic Church.

Golfingnut 07-30-2013 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jane032657 (Post 716602)
Excuse me but being gay has nothing to do with pedophilia. The sexual abuse of children by Priests has nothing to do with sexuality, it has to do with opportunity, power, control, and abuse. Being gay is no different than being straight, except in who you choose for your partner. Life is the same and your assumption to me in mortifying.

So absolutely true. :bigbow:

Jim 9922 07-30-2013 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 716592)
Don't get me started. This is exactly the kind of thinking that allowed these pedophiles to thrive

They all came out in Milwaukee years ago. Now the Milwaukee area Catholic Organization is bankrupt trying to avoid paying for past molestations and cover-ups. They set a great bunch of examples; the perverts and their leaders!:rant-rave:

Golfingnut 07-30-2013 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by gomoho (Post 716595)
If priest are not supposed to be sexual - how is this okay?

Being sexual is a given to all men and women.

Portia 07-30-2013 06:52 AM

You go Jane..people need to realize that straight persons can also be pedophiles example " JERRY SANDUSKY NEED I say more....such a uprite citizen

gomoho 07-30-2013 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfingnut (Post 716609)
Being sexual is a given to all men and women.

But they take a vow of chastity. I am thrilled the Pope has opened the Catholic church to include everyone and not judge, but I still can't get over the comment about priests.

tainsley 07-30-2013 07:06 AM

Well stated Jane! And just who are we to sit in judgement of anyone?

jane032657 07-30-2013 07:17 AM

I spent a good part of my life developing programs for children and adults who have been victims of sexual abuse. Sorry but Daddy, Grandpa, Uncles, Best Buddy of Dad, Boy Scout Leader, Football Coach, Best Friend's Dad,...along with some women abusers such as teachers and swim coaches and moms...the list goes on because it is never exclusive. Those who make such uninformed and prejudicial comments are often the ones who do not want to look in the mirror and reflect on their own family history or their own personal and painful journies. 'Denial" is more than a river.

graciegirl 07-30-2013 09:03 AM

The Catholic church moves VERY slowly to change and has many, many difficulties with acceptance of knowledge that we all know is more valid than what it espouses.

BUT...it makes my old heart happy to see a truly kind man with a loving heart walk in the white robes. Perhaps he will move The Catholic Church forward. But don't expect too much.


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