[jebartle]

PGA will suspend players participating. Greg Norman the organizer of SAUDI League. Saudi recently had mass execution of 81 people who participated in Anti-government protests, many reasons for players to not participate in this league but it's all about the money, $255 million to be exact for 8 events, 4 will be in US.

[Keefelane66]

Good! Morals over money or money over morals?

[blueash]

The brutality of the Saudi royal family is well known. They are responsible for not just the 81 executions of political opponents this week but also, of course, the slaughter and cutting up of an American journalist Jamal Khashoggi. And war crimes in Yemen that are little different from those of Putin in Ukraine.

There were UN attempts to censure the Saudis but our government vetoed those attempts. There were resolutions passed in our own Congress but those were vetoed as well.

Our country has sadly been willing to support horrible people too often. Sometimes such alliances are needed to combat a greater evil such as helping Stalin against Hitler. Other times, like our support of the Saud family, we do it for economic reasons, OIL OIL OIL, and turn a blind eye to brutality.

Of course you can weakly support the Saudis to keep the oil flowing, or you can love them.

I have sent an email to three of the courses which are hosting the Saudi tournaments in the US. I didn't bother with the fourth. If you want to let them know that you don't approve of their choice of money over morality, google can help with contact information.

July 1-3: Pumpkin Ridge Golf Club – Portland
July 29-31: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sept 2-4: The International – Boston
Sept 16-18: Rich Harvest Farms – Chicago

[collie1228]

Phil Mickelson, greedy hypocritical "professional" golfer. Net worth reported at $420 Million. And he sells his reputation for $100M to the Saudis. Geesh.

[bimmertl]

Saudi's "sportwashing" isn't confined to golf. The WWE held a major match there in February and plans on more through 2027.

WWE Elimination Chamber 2022 to Be Held from Saudi Arabia on February 19 | Bleacher Report | Latest News, Videos and Highlights

In addition Saudi money is behind a takeover of the premier soccer league team Newcastle United.

What is sportswashing? Definition of the sports term amid Newcastle United takeover | NationalWorld

[Keefelane66]

GOLF IS BEGINNING TO STINk MORE AND MORE. I wonder how many people will show up at the tournaments. I rather follow the crowds around Disney

[PugMom]

i read the people executed were isis members, & that kashoogi was an op of the muslim brotherhood

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i read the people executed were isis members, & that kashoogi was an op of the muslim brotherhood

Handy labels to quiet criticism.

[Keefelane66]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i read the people executed were isis members, & that kashoogi was an op of the muslim brotherhood

There is a big difference between criminal executions and an assassination and bodily dismemberment Comrade.

[blueash]

Originally Posted by PugMom

i read the people executed were isis members, & that kashoogi was an op of the muslim brotherhood

Oh please please please provide a link to your excellent sources. Explain how, even it were true that Kashoogi were "an op of the muslim brotherhood" that the luring of him into an embassy where he was killed, cut up into pieces and those pieces disposed of in an unknown manner. Is how the world is supposed to work?

Is it possible that some people in the middle east who are not Sunni might find that the Sunni leaders of Saudi Arabia worth trying to oppose in their ongoing religious wars and suppression of non-Sunni voices? And that the Sunni leaders would accuse anyone who opposed them of being members of Isis.

I guess that makes me an Isis member in their eyes

[jdulej]

Originally Posted by blueash

Oh please please please provide a link to your excellent sources. Explain how, even it were true that Kashoogi were "an op of the muslim brotherhood" that the luring of him into an embassy where he was killed, cut up into pieces and those pieces disposed of in an unknown manner. Is how the world is supposed to work?

Is it possible that some people in the middle east who are not Sunni might find that the Sunni leaders of Saudi Arabia worth trying to oppose in their ongoing religious wars and suppression of non-Sunni voices? And that the Sunni leaders would accuse anyone who opposed them of being members of Isis.

I guess that makes me an Isis member in their eyes

"If you don't agree with me, you're one of the bad guys" Where have heard that over and over?

[BrianL99]

Originally Posted by blueash

The brutality of the Saudi royal family is well known.


Sept 2-4: The International – Boston

The International is a 45 Hole Facility in Bolton, MA ... not even close to Boston. I think they're saying "Boston", to tweek Jay Monahan the PGA Tour Commissioner, who's from Boston (actually, Winchester, but he played out of Belmont CC).

I used to manage The International and it was recently sold to Escalante Golf (who also own Black Diamond, which would be a way better site). One the Professionals at The International was very close to Greg Norman, so I suspect that's part of the reason they were able to target IGC.

I don't see it happening, for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which, Bolton is a very wealthy community, with a new contingent of the "woke". They'll go bonkers, when the Arabs show up in their robes! I can't wait for the fallout.

[Rainger99]

Every day, the United States gets more than 500,000 barrels of oil from Saudi Arabia.

Should we ban golfers from taking Saudi money while we give the Saudis money for their oil?

[blueash]

Originally Posted by BrianL99

The International is a 45 Hole Facility in Bolton, MA ... not even close to Boston.

From the website of the course

"GOLF
EXPERIENCE THE GOLD STANDARD OF THE GAME
Welcome to the finest pure-golf experience in Greater Boston"

Apparently they think they are close enough to Boston to use it as a defining location

[thevillages2013]

Originally Posted by jebartle

PGA will suspend players participating. Greg Norman the organizer of SAUDI League. Saudi recently had mass execution of 81 people who participated in Anti-government protests, many reasons for players to not participate in this league but it's all about the money, $255 million to be exact for 8 events, 4 will be in US.

Sure hope you boycotted the China Olympics if you are worried about supporting countries who commit crimes against anti government protesters