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stan the man 06-18-2018 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Robert56 (Post 1554127)
He’s human. The pressure got to him momentarily. He recovered quickly. Took the penalty and moved on. Handled all interviews professionally.
Case closed.
Thanks

One persons opinion

dolphin 06-18-2018 07:09 AM

Agree. Everyone has a bad day BUT he should have Simply “manned up”and said he made a mistake an blew his Kool versus trying to explain it off Mistake on his part, but let’s move on. Overall, he is a credit to the game.

However,he should have been DQ. Was not because he was Phil.

dolphin 06-18-2018 07:12 AM

Agreed. Some fans are ignorant. This seems to becoming a trend. Not good

Cedwards38 06-18-2018 07:41 AM

Yes, he should have been. And then he should have apologized for losing his cool and we forgive him and move on.

rsgolfer 06-18-2018 07:59 AM

The real penalty should have been assessed on the USGA. Players on Saturday afternoon were at a 3 to 4 stroke disadvantage. The USGA knew this could and likely would happen, but selected this course anyway and then did not provide for it.

rsgolfer 06-18-2018 08:07 AM

Jjcash - Your response is spot on. The combination of unruly fans and the unplayable course conditions was extremely frustrating for the players. I feel especially bad for DJ.

Nucky 06-18-2018 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by B-flat (Post 1554126)
Plus one.

Expand on your reply, please.

OhioBuckeye 06-18-2018 09:27 AM

I hear what people are saying about how Phil shouldn't have done what he did but I'm sure Phil knew exactly what he was doing. If you watched the Open you could see how many players missed 2 to 5 ft. puts either came up short or if they hit their 3 ft. putt & missed it rolled 10 ft. past or off the green. This wasn't just Mickelson it was most of the players. Besides I'm sure Phil wasn't going to win it or be in the top 10 finishers at 13 or 14 over at that time. I'm really surprise more people that made comments here didn't say, I wonder how many players will want to come back to this course & play. The course was terrible! I'm glad to see Phil showing his frustration in how bad this course was! Just my opinion, I'm just an amateur just like most of us that are making my opinions about Phil. Just to bad Phil didn't play better & did what he did though!

CFrance 06-18-2018 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Nucky (Post 1554205)
Expand on your reply, please.

Nucky, they use that term on a business management forum I follow. It means whoever said it agrees with you. Only on that forum it's usually expressed by "+1," so maybe this isn't what B-flat meant.

jimh24444@gmail.com 06-18-2018 10:10 AM

What Phil did that was most annoying is disrespect his playing partner who was fighting to make a check out there. Beef Johnson's score went out the window, yet it was all about Phil.

lwmilo 06-18-2018 10:15 AM

Simply, an observation / opinion
 
Why was the course so rough for the ELITE golfers and for the most part with exception of the winner, and not so rough for the non elites..THEY ALL PLAYED THE SAME COURSE. A gentlemen's game my BUTT..
NON GOLFER.. !!

Nucky 06-18-2018 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1554222)
Nucky, they use that term on a business management forum I follow. It means whoever said it agrees with you. Only on that forum it's usually expressed by "+1," so maybe this isn't what B-flat meant.

Thanks, CFrance I thought it was something positive. Just unfamiliar with a whole lot of terms I read on here. Urban Dictionary usually answers most questions I have. Bless You. :clap2:

Bruiser1 06-18-2018 10:44 AM

Yes Phil "the Thrill's" action was unprofessional. As David Fay would suggest "he could have been disqualified". On the spur of the moment , the staff made an appropriate decision to penalize him 2 strokes.

NY courses are notiorious for drawing unruly crowds. Historically there have been countless acts of bad behavior . Look at the History of Bethpage Black etc. Colin Montgomery was taunted as "Mrs Doubtfire". Sergio was harassed after his endless waggling the club. And how about the endless " BAba Booey!" (Howard Stern reference) screams. You get one of the biggest cities in the world ..take a train ride.. apply copious amounts of beer and viola you don't have the peaceful venue of the golf course.

Yes Phil is one of the crowd favorites..And yes the PGA does treat their "cash cows " different from "Beef Johnson"..but Imagine if that crowd would have heard that Phil had been DQ . That could have turned into a real ugly scene

JGVillages 06-18-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1554082)
Here's my point...

Why Phil Mickelson didn'''t get disqualified from the U.S. Open | Golf.com





Are you now going to try and argue that David Fay..."isn't qualified or knowledgeable?" :oops:

As I said, it isn't nearly as cut & dried...as you seem to think. :ohdear:

Here is the problem:
“A serious breach of that rule means the rules committee can impose a penalty of DQ.”

The USGA rule is not ironclad when they state “ serious” and “can impose a penalty”. This leaves the players action open to interpretation of both these phrases by the committee. Best guess the wording should/will be addressed to make the rule ironclad. List the specific exceptions ie: wind moving ball as it was struck, and so on. Beyond the specific exceptions it’s a DQ.

JGVillages 06-18-2018 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lwmilo (Post 1554225)
Why was the course so rough for the ELITE golfers and for the most part with exception of the winner, and not so rough for the non elites..THEY ALL PLAYED THE SAME COURSE. A gentlemen's game my BUTT..
NON GOLFER.. !!

Good point. I believe it was PJ Boatright, That said about the course controversy in 2004,
“We are not trying to embarrass the best players in the world, we are just trying to identify them.


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