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chinook234 09-27-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiltedviews (Post 1838381)
My husband and I went to the Chop House in LSL tonight to celebrate our anniversary. All was well until the bill came. Their grouper special: a piece of grouper, plus either 3 shrimp or 3 scallops, and 2 sides: $43!! I asked the waitress why she didn’t tell us the price when she described the special (I would never have ordered it if I had known it was $43), she said they only tell you prices if you ask. So I am posting this to advise you that if you order a special at the Chop House, ask the price before ordering!! We will never go there again after this experience.

I took my wife there for our anniversary.....her meal was ok but I ordered short ribs. It was like getting pot roast chunks.....not impressed...Blue Fin is far better

Marathon Man 09-27-2020 09:56 AM

The OP has not returned. Tossed a grenade and left.

justjim 09-27-2020 10:07 AM

Market Price
 
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Originally Posted by Quiltedviews (Post 1838381)
My husband and I went to the Chop House in LSL tonight to celebrate our anniversary. All was well until the bill came. Their grouper special: a piece of grouper, plus either 3 shrimp or 3 scallops, and 2 sides: $43!! I asked the waitress why she didn’t tell us the price when she described the special (I would never have ordered it if I had known it was $43), she said they only tell you prices if you ask. So I am posting this to advise you that if you order a special at the Chop House, ask the price before ordering!! We will never go there again after this experience.

When the waiter tells you it’s “market price” that is what it is! I guess the moral to your story is that we never get too old to learn something. Anyway, wish you many more anniversaries! 👩*❤️*👨

OhioBuckeye 09-27-2020 10:27 AM

Ohiobuckeye
 
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Originally Posted by JSR22 (Post 1838835)
An entree' was $43. I have never heard of a grouper dinner with shellfish and 2 sides for $21.50

The original message sounded like it was $43 PER MEAL. But $21.50 I probably wouldn’t of paid that much either. I’ve see fish entree’ higher than that, but like you I think I would of went to a Steak House & got a Filet. $21.50 doesn’t sound to much out of line! But I’m not a big fish eater.

DeanFL 09-27-2020 10:37 AM

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Don't a lot of you feel that you have nailed this one? Beat it to death.

So many of us have their expert personal input on this one and typical slams to the OP.

Let's end the yada yada, OK?

Move along to the next topic.

NEXT!!!!
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james thompson 09-27-2020 10:58 AM

Large scallops are 17.00 or more per lb as well.

JSR22 09-27-2020 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by OhioBuckeye (Post 1839322)
The original message sounded like it was $43 PER MEAL. But $21.50 I probably wouldn’t of paid that much either. I’ve see fish entree’ higher than that, but like you I think I would of went to a Steak House & got a Filet. $21.50 doesn’t sound to much out of line! But I’m not a big fish eater.

The one entree' was $43.

Nick B 09-27-2020 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Suzieque (Post 1838597)
$23 for 3 shrimp?

But they are the best TV shrimp yuge !

bgamble3 09-27-2020 12:59 PM

Market Prices
 
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1838437)
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...this is one of my (many) pet peeves.

1. Stating the price of 'specials' should really be standard practice.
2. I always felt that it sounded "cheap" to ask the price of a Special.
2a "Market Price" is one thing, but a standard 'special' is another.
2b. One can feel 'cheap' asking, especially in a Group lunch/dinner.
3. But I'd rather be looked upon as "cheap" than feel 'gouged', as the OP.

re #2, perhaps it's a psycholgical matter employed for profit $$$.

Buyer beware, and don't be shy.
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Are you being "cheap" when you ask the price or "wise"?
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Stu from NYC 09-27-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bgamble3 (Post 1839412)
Are you being "cheap" when you ask the price or "wise"?
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Wise for sure.

Do not understand buying anything without know the price.

Look how many restaurants offer drinks on their menu and neglect to put in the price.

erhrph 09-27-2020 02:20 PM

Restaurants try very hard to impress their customers, yet fall short.
 
Many restaurants fail to inform their guests what the prices are for the food that their ordering. Our town squares often have outdoor shopping where goods are displayed without prices listed. If consumers have to ask for a price, the probability of sales decreases. If surprises occur after the transaction is completed with the consumer not fully aware of the price in the first place, future business will suffer. I have seen studies showing as much as 47% loss in sales for merchandise that is not priced. Vendors and restaurants need to think before they open their doors.

retiredguy123 09-27-2020 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by erhrph (Post 1839448)
Many restaurants fail to inform their guests what the prices are for the food that their ordering. Our town squares often have outdoor shopping where goods are displayed without prices listed. If consumers have to ask for a price, the probability of sales decreases. If surprises occur after the transaction is completed with the consumer not fully aware of the price in the first place, future business will suffer. I have seen studies showing as much as 47% loss in sales for merchandise that is not priced. Vendors and restaurants need to think before they open their doors.

I agree. My pet peeve is First Watch. When a couple sits down, the waitress will immediately show up and pour 2 cups of coffee. They don't realize that they have already spent 6 dollars on coffee before they even look at the menu. But, it wouldn't help anyway because the menu doesn't show prices for any beverages.

Stu from NYC 09-27-2020 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1839454)
I agree. My pet peeve is First Watch. When a couple sits down, the waitress will immediately show up and pour 2 cups of coffee. They don't realize that they have already spent 6 dollars on coffee before they even look at the menu. But, it wouldn't help anyway because the menu doesn't show prices for any beverages.

Thanks for sharing that is a restaurant we will not go too.

golfing eagles 09-27-2020 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1839454)
I agree. My pet peeve is First Watch. When a couple sits down, the waitress will immediately show up and pour 2 cups of coffee. They don't realize that they have already spent 6 dollars on coffee before they even look at the menu. But, it wouldn't help anyway because the menu doesn't show prices for any beverages.

That's odd. We ate breakfast at the new first watch on 466A 5 days ago, and the waitress asked if we would like coffee or another beverage as she handed us our menus

retiredguy123 09-27-2020 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1839464)
That's odd. We ate breakfast at the new first watch on 466A 5 days ago, and the waitress asked if we would like coffee or another beverage as she handed us our menus

You are correct. I apologize. They will ask before pouring, but the cups are already on the table, and they don't volunteer the price, or tell you that you cannot buy one cup.

valuemkt 09-27-2020 08:51 PM

wait for One or two Years ?
 
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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1838841)
This is an example of the larger economic and social forces coming together to affect local restaurants and their customers. To me a top-rated steak house or a Taco Bell are all the same - they are to be avoided like the Plague - which is more than an expression today. We are literally in a Plague and all personal actions like going out to eat need to be individually evaluated with the risks involved considered. The restaurants have less customers so they are forced to jack up their prices. And a waitress is not going to brag about a "special" when it is not really "specially" a good deal. Their manager probably tells them to NOT mention the cost unless ASKED.

I personally am prepared to wait 1 or 2 YEARS to go out to a restaurant. I will wait for medical science to lower the risks of ANY indoor activity with groups of people. We are far from that. Some individuals will be willing to take those risks, which are increasing and not yet quantifiable. I also would NOT be buying any stock in restaurant chains. Good luck to you. And when you go to your restaurant, may you go with God.

It is impressive that you have the belief that you will be around in 1 to 2 years to enjoy eating in a restaurant and also have the belief that if you stay locked in your house you will not be subject to some other disease that will claim your life. It is also interesting that you must not feel that you will be missing out on any joys that you might have experienced if you stuck your head outside and celebrated life during that time instead of fear.

Katelivingston 09-27-2020 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RDhot (Post 1838473)
Why didN’t you ask the price? I never order a special or anything that I do not know the price of first.

Reading these comments reminds me of proper phone etiquette: Never start a question with the word “Why” when trying to help someone or assist in assuaging feelings that have been hurt. You’ll only succeed in making the person to whom you’re speaking feel worse.

golfing eagles 09-28-2020 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Katelivingston (Post 1839627)
Reading these comments reminds me of proper phone etiquette: Never start a question with the word “Why” when trying to help someone or assist in assuaging feelings that have been hurt. You’ll only succeed in making the person to whom you’re speaking feel worse.


WHY? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

coffeebean 09-28-2020 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickanvic (Post 1838644)
I'm at a restaurant, not a garage sale. I shouldn't have to ask.

Then there should be no quibbling or complaining about the price you pay.

Stu from NYC 09-28-2020 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 1839659)
WHY? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Why not?

Dana1963 09-28-2020 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob in Fishers (Post 1839123)
That is reasonable considering grouper is $25 a lb raw

Restaurants don’t pay that prices normal portions for fish are 3 to 6 ounces. Here in New England purchasing lobster off the boat $4 pound @ market $8 pound in restaurants market prices start @ $35 pound

charlieo1126@gmail.com 09-28-2020 09:13 AM

I’m trying to understand the first watch complaint , do you really need to know the price of a coffee before you decide to buy it, and do you prefer only the one cup so you can share it. I’ve never gone into a breakfast place when the server wasn’t right over with pot and would say coffee., I don’t think in my 81 years I ever heard someone say how much is it first

bimmertl 09-28-2020 09:21 AM

It's interesting to note the Chop House website. Main page shows three steak photos which are stock photos from the internet. One of them appears to be of a bone in New York which they don't even have on the menu. The other two can be found on the web if you search stock steak photos. One would think they would have enough pride in their products to show some actual photos of what they serve. So their web site is misleading as to what they offer.

Chop House at Lake Sumter


Chop House only offers three steak cuts. One choice filet in two sizes and two prime steaks, a New York strip and a Delmonico, whatever that is. And of course, no prime rib.

Most steak houses typically state their best steak is a bone in rib eye, which of course Chop House doesn't offer. In addition, steaks at typical high end steak restaurants are broiled in high temperature infra red grills. Chop House pan fries all their steaks.

So other than the name, it's not much of a "Chop House".

Nevermore 09-28-2020 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiltedviews (Post 1838381)
My husband and I went to the Chop House in LSL tonight to celebrate our anniversary. All was well until the bill came. Their grouper special: a piece of grouper, plus either 3 shrimp or 3 scallops, and 2 sides: $43!! I asked the waitress why she didn’t tell us the price when she described the special (I would never have ordered it if I had known it was $43), she said they only tell you prices if you ask. So I am posting this to advise you that if you order a special at the Chop House, ask the price before ordering!! We will never go there again after this experience.

OMG! You let a few bucks ruin your dinner? What is it you will have to give up for having this meal? Enjoy what you have, be thankful you have it and learn from your mistake..

CFrance 09-28-2020 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1839001)
After looking at The Chop House menu online, I have to agree that the OP has a very valid complaint. At $43, the "special" grouper entree would be more expensive than any other priced entree on the menu. And, it would be more than $10 above every entree, except the rack of lamb. So, in this case, the term "special" means that they purchased the highest priced entree on the menu. I think that the restaurant clearly deceived them by not telling them the price of the grouper entree, and by referring to it as a "special".

I'm sorry OP got so slammed by so many. Lotta crabby people here.


I guess by "special," Chop House meant they made something different that day. "Special" used to mean something at a good price, perhaps less than usual menu items.

CFrance 09-28-2020 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nevermore (Post 1840037)
OMG! You let a few bucks ruin your dinner? What is it you will have to give up for having this meal? Enjoy what you have, be thankful you have it and learn from your mistake..

She never said it ruined her dinner. You said that.

Ladygolfer93 09-28-2020 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Quiltedviews (Post 1838381)
My husband and I went to the Chop House in LSL tonight to celebrate our anniversary. All was well until the bill came. Their grouper special: a piece of grouper, plus either 3 shrimp or 3 scallops, and 2 sides: $43!! I asked the waitress why she didn’t tell us the price when she described the special (I would never have ordered it if I had known it was $43), she said they only tell you prices if you ask. So I am posting this to advise you that if you order a special at the Chop House, ask the price before ordering!! We will never go there again after this experience.

WOW ! I am a Grouper-A-Holic (or WAS ! ) at $43 for one small piece (and so many try to pass off so many other "meaty", "solid" fish as Grouper too). Think my last pound bought on the coast to take home was $27, so figuring most restaurants need to double that to make a profit after paying the chef(s), the servers, the rent, the AC, the cleaning people, the dishwashers.... well, you get the point. Probably not going to get any REAL grouper dinner for under $30 anytime soon ! Guess I'll just continue to go to Port Canaveral to Grill's for my grouper... sure hope they don't raise the prices or change out the real thing for something similar over there! While on the topic, anyone know where one can get genuine pompano when in season ? :pray::pray:

Ladygolfer93 09-28-2020 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by james thompson (Post 1839347)
Large scallops are 17.00 or more per lb as well.

LOVE grouper.... but I guess I'll have the large scallops ! LOL !

Stu from NYC 09-28-2020 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladygolfer93 (Post 1840104)
WOW ! I am a Grouper-A-Holic (or WAS ! ) at $43 for one small piece (and so many try to pass off so many other "meaty", "solid" fish as Grouper too). Think my last pound bought on the coast to take home was $27, so figuring most restaurants need to double that to make a profit after paying the chef(s), the servers, the rent, the AC, the cleaning people, the dishwashers.... well, you get the point. Probably not going to get any REAL grouper dinner for under $30 anytime soon ! Guess I'll just continue to go to Port Canaveral to Grill's for my grouper... sure hope they don't raise the prices or change out the real thing for something similar over there! While on the topic, anyone know where one can get genuine pompano when in season ? :pray::pray:

Understand that food cost should be no more than 30% of sales price of the item.

That of course would include any sides, salad etc.

CFrance 09-28-2020 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Marathon Man (Post 1839292)
The OP has not returned. Tossed a grenade and left.


I wouldn't return either, after the way she got slammed to the wall and back.

nn0wheremann 09-29-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Quiltedviews (Post 1838381)
My husband and I went to the Chop House in LSL tonight to celebrate our anniversary. All was well until the bill came. Their grouper special: a piece of grouper, plus either 3 shrimp or 3 scallops, and 2 sides: $43!! I asked the waitress why she didn’t tell us the price when she described the special (I would never have ordered it if I had known it was $43), she said they only tell you prices if you ask. So I am posting this to advise you that if you order a special at the Chop House, ask the price before ordering!! We will never go there again after this experience.

If you need to know the price they think you don’t belong there.

Stu from NYC 09-29-2020 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 1840273)
If you need to know the price they think you don’t belong there.

Sorry strongly disagree.

If someone on a budget wants to go to a fancy restaurant what is the harm in knowing what the dinner will cost.

Not quite the same thing as buying a yacht.

UpNorth 09-29-2020 11:37 AM

If you want a great steak at a reasonable price, get yourself a grill and a Costco membership:icon_wink:

Stu from NYC 09-29-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1840502)
If you want a great steak at a reasonable price, get yourself a grill and a Costco membership:icon_wink:

Where do we get the chef to grill it for us?

UpNorth 09-29-2020 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 1840533)
Where do we get the chef to grill it for us?

It takes skill to grill a steak?:1rotfl:

dzine 09-29-2020 10:32 PM

Golden Grouper
 
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Originally Posted by DeanFL (Post 1838437)
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...this is one of my (many) pet peeves.

1. Stating the price of 'specials' should really be standard practice.
2. I always felt that it sounded "cheap" to ask the price of a Special.
2a "Market Price" is one thing, but a standard 'special' is another.
2b. One can feel 'cheap' asking, especially in a Group lunch/dinner.
3. But I'd rather be looked upon as "cheap" than feel 'gouged', as the OP.

re #2, perhaps it's a psycholgical matter employed for profit $$$.

Buyer beware, and don't be shy.
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Have always heard restaurants who do not have their servers quote the price of the specials do it for a reason. 1) It is usually a more expensive price than run of tbe menu and 2) They know people feel awkward to ask about pricing because it makes them look cheap.
So never hesitate to ask. You are the one paying the bill. If they don't quote the price, I usually refer to Rule 1 and don't order it on principal. But if it sounds amazing, I do ask and decide if it seems worth it.

Ele201 09-30-2020 05:42 AM

Specials are expensive!
 
I see your point about how a “Special” might mean a good deal or cheaper price. But not so at a high end restaurant or steakhouse. Everytime I’ve seen a “special” on those types of menus, it’s been More expensive, not less, than other entrees.
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Originally Posted by CFrance (Post 1840090)
I'm sorry OP got so slammed by so many. Lotta crabby people here.


I guess by "special," Chop House meant they made something different that day. "Special" used to mean something at a good price, perhaps less than usual menu items.


retiredguy123 09-30-2020 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Ele201 (Post 1840830)
I see your point about how a “Special” might mean a good deal or cheaper price. But not so at a high end restaurant or steakhouse. Everytime I’ve seen a “special” on those types of menus, it’s been More expensive, not less, than other entrees.

I don't know what you mean by high end restaurants, but we live in The Villages. Almost every restaurant is always advertising lunch specials, happy hour specials, two for one meal specials, all-you-can eat specials, and every other kind of special. Some of the country clubs and other restaurants have regular weekly specials. I don't think anyone in The Villages would hear about a restaurant special and think that they are going to pay a higher price. I agree with the OP that the Chop House missed the boat by referring to their highest priced meal and calling it a special.

Stu from NYC 09-30-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by UpNorth (Post 1840765)
It takes skill to grill a steak?:1rotfl:

Yes

Stu from NYC 09-30-2020 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 1840864)
I don't know what you mean by high end restaurants, but we live in The Villages. Almost every restaurant is always advertising lunch specials, happy hour specials, two for one meal specials, all-you-can eat specials, and every other kind of special. Some of the country clubs and other restaurants have regular weekly specials. I don't think anyone in The Villages would hear about a restaurant special and think that they are going to pay a higher price. I agree with the OP that the Chop House missed the boat by referring to their highest priced meal and calling it a special.

Agreed. This goes in the category of winning battle and losing the war.

The OP should have asked the price but he didnt and now after sticker shock the restaurant probably lost a customer.


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