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Pat2015 04-17-2021 01:56 PM

That tells me that the unemployment supplements from our tax dollars are too much and are discouraging people from going back to work which is killing businesses.

Pat2015 04-17-2021 01:58 PM

Great idea as that would put all the restaurants out of business and increase unemployment.

jimjamuser 04-17-2021 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1931321)
Probably because most of us worked for “slave wages” until our early twenties. The public tit is loaded at this point and you’ll NEVER get people back off of it. Two children family homes have added to this problem in large part with kids who grow up lacking for nothing and the most chores they’ve ever had were walking the dog and making their beds. This problem isn’t limited to TV alone. States are struggling to find competent tradespeople and manufacturing producers. If businesses are able to hire employees, they walk off the job by noon. They state they don’t want to work that hard. Wait until you see what’s coming down the line, try not to end up in assisted living or a nursing home.

Correct about nursing homes. People working there will have gotten inadequate public school education ( to save on property taxes) - they will have trouble reading the medical instructions for what NOT to feed you and they will give out too much or not enough medication. We that end up in nursing homes will pay the price for turning the US into a 3rd world country.

bonrich 04-17-2021 02:10 PM

It’s the beginning of Socialism in our country. Be dependent on the government for your care. Insure a strong voter base to keep that “free” money coming in. Margaret Thatcher said “Socialism is wonderful until you run out of other peoples money.” People, that money you are getting is all of our money we paid out in taxes. The government is not being benevolent.

jimjamuser 04-17-2021 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931335)
This "bonus" was started in the PREVIOUS administration, last year, as the result of the pandemic causing millions of people to be out of work as a result of closures.

While I agree that we're giving too much, I also acknowledge that this is a unique situation that our PLANET has never experienced before, and the attempts to address the situation began over a year ago, when someone else was running the country.

Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

Aces4 04-17-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931389)
Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

Disagree, no one knew what that virus was that quickly. They can’t even give us straight answers now.

Topspinmo 04-17-2021 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bobdeb (Post 1931000)
I know this first hand up north in northern NE. Folks have been verbal about making more staying home than working. It causes shortages in staff and repercussions in services.

I'm not making this up. I know. Seasonal folks are laid off not fired. They collect. No need to go back to work.

Free money! Woo Whoo!


For another 80 something weeks. And I sure it will be extended. There not going make $350 plus week working minimum paying jobs, so no incentive to look for work.

jimjamuser 04-17-2021 02:21 PM

Yes, I know. That IS the way it IS. I was thinking out loud about how it SHOULD be!

Topspinmo 04-17-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931389)
Agreed - failure to react quickly and appropriately to the CV Pandemic has cast a shadow of difficult problems that linger today.

So, where do you think the vaccine came from so quickly? It was ready long before November wasn’t it.

jimjamuser 04-17-2021 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1931390)
Disagree, no one knew what that virus was that quickly. They can’t even give us straight answers now.

New Zealand and Australia knew and so did Bob Woodward by Feb 2020. Plenty of time to do the right thing. Just that you and I were let down. But someone, not named me chose to forget or ignore it. It's OK I understand the loyalty to a particular party. But beware stepping into that rabbit hole that leads to Joseph Stalinland.

Topspinmo 04-17-2021 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931387)
Correct about nursing homes. People working there will have gotten inadequate public school education ( to save on property taxes) - they will have trouble reading the medical instructions for what NOT to feed you and they will give out too much or not enough medication. We that end up in nursing homes will pay the price for turning the US into a 3rd world country.

So, you’re saying LPN And CNA have no education? Wow! So I guess they got there diplomats from black market. I don’t agree with we, you maybe.

IMO healthcare worker’s in nursing home’s are rated pretty high in my book. One of last blue collar jobs left in smaller communities that hasn’t be shipped overseas.

Topspinmo 04-17-2021 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931031)
They weren't suffering in December, when everything down here was opened up and everyone was enjoying their take-out, curbside pickup, and dine-in service. Stores had enough employees then, and - surprise surprise - there was an unemployment extension and boost then too.

What's different between December and now?

It's a rhetorical question. No need to answer.

Yes, know it all. Amazing what can be seen all over the country from hill top.

Hogfan55 04-17-2021 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1930995)
Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

You are wrong here. I know from having a family member (and I’m embarrassed by this) who hasn’t worked in two years. He told me everybody has been telling him he needs to sign up for unemployment. I laughed at him. How can he get unemployment when he hasn’t worked in two years and quit his job? The COVID he said. He signed up and got $8000 back pay and is getting a weekly check. Do you think he will work now? We are rewarding sloths and the joke is on all of us who always do the right thing. It’s disgusting but true. I did business with restaurants for years and their biggest problem was getting help and getting them to show up. Several restaurants in my town have had to close periodically because they were short handed. I don’t like the way our country is going.

jimkerr 04-17-2021 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1930938)
The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

It's the same thing happening at most restaurants. They are all short staffed because the government handouts are paying them more than they were making working. All of us have to be patient and understanding. It's not the restaurants fault.

Topspinmo 04-17-2021 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Patriceunger (Post 1931384)
Great idea as that would put all the restaurants out of business and increase unemployment.

In nice way, need to quote post so we know who you’re talking to. Lower right hand corner, hit quote, then type in you’re comments.

Aces4 04-17-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 1931396)
So, you’re saying LPN And CNA have no education? Wow! So I guess they got there diplomats from black market. I don’t agree with we, you maybe.

IMO healthcare worker’s in nursing home’s are rated pretty high in my book. One of last blue collar jobs left in smaller communities that hasn’t be shipped overseas.


I couldn’t agree with you more. I have witnessed hard working, compassionate people serving the elderly and disabled. My comment was regarding being paid so well to stay home, why leave and go to work?

Aces4 04-17-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931394)
New Zealand and Australia knew and so did Bob Woodward by Feb 2020. Plenty of time to do the right thing. Just that you and I were let down. But someone, not named me chose to forget or ignore it. It's OK I understand the loyalty to a particular party. But beware stepping into that rabbit hole that leads to Joseph Stalinland.

That’s funny... New Zealand and Australia and Bob Woodward. So why wouldn’t these fortuitous locations and individual share their vaccine with us immediately?

Aces4 04-17-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931369)
Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".

And that realization just hit?

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-17-2021 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 1931369)
Non-citizens working in TV land is NOT a good idea. If the US absorbs too many "non-citizens" from 3rd world countries, then the US will eventually become a 3rd world country. It would be patriotic for restaurant patrons to BOYCOTT restaurants that employ "non citizens". The local police should check citizenship and begin deportation procedures. And The Village residents should push their local leaders to ensure this policy. A restaurant patron needs to give up an inside seat for a burger to prevent the crumbling apart of their country that helped them get a good retirement. Have some patriotism for citizens not "non-citizens".

Don't forget all those landscapers, roofers, tree-cutters, and various other physical labor contractors. If they're not citizens, they shouldn't be working here.

Put your money where your mouth is and if your window guy comes to install a new window and he has a foreign accent, refuse to get the work done! If your TV breaks and the repairman comes and he has them thar funny eyes, tell him to take a hike, and buy a new TV! Those landscapers who work for Bright? Refuse to pay your amenity fees until they are replaced with Americans!

Oh wait - you want new windows, and you want your TV fixed, and you want the lawn mowed in front of the sign to your Vista De La Bella Sol Villa Villas, and the only people WILLING to do the job for what the bosses are paying them (without any health insurance, mind you) are brown-skinned ferriners? Well dad gummit then, I guess you might just have to move to an island and hire all your own people from now on.

Or fix your own danged TV.

Aces4 04-17-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931432)
Don't forget all those landscapers, roofers, tree-cutters, and various other physical labor contractors. If they're not citizens, they shouldn't be working here.

Put your money where your mouth is and if your window guy comes to install a new window and he has a foreign accent, refuse to get the work done! If your TV breaks and the repairman comes and he has them thar funny eyes, tell him to take a hike, and buy a new TV! Those landscapers who work for Bright? Refuse to pay your amenity fees until they are replaced with Americans!

Oh wait - you want new windows, and you want your TV fixed, and you want the lawn mowed in front of the sign to your Vista De La Bella Sol Villa Villas, and the only people WILLING to do the job for what the bosses are paying them (without any health insurance, mind you) are brown-skinned ferriners? Well dad gummit then, I guess you might just have to move to an island and hire all your own people from now on.

Or fix your own danged TV.


That’s a flawed argument. Remove the borders because Americans can no longer do for themselves? How about instituting citizenship and having everyone rowing the same boat and clearing requirements for citizenship.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-17-2021 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aces4 (Post 1931442)
That’s a flawed argument. Remove the borders because Americans can no longer do for themselves? How about instituting citizenship and having everyone rowing the same boat and clearing requirements for citizenship.

If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.

jimbomaybe 04-17-2021 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jokomo (Post 1931292)
That tells me the employers aren’t paying a living wage.

people starving in the streets,risking life and limb for a loaf of bread climbing walls on our southern border to get out, oh the agony

Professor 04-17-2021 06:59 PM

Same with us. Won't be back anytime soon...

Aces4 04-17-2021 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931447)
If it's such a big deal to you, then be the change. Do for yourself. Stop supporting enterprises that hire foreigners. If you can't find any, then do the work yourself. If you don't like the color of the skin or the slant of the eye or the accent of your local supermarket cashier, then apply for a job there to prevent some OTHER person who looks or sounds different from you from getting the gig.

Not everyone comes from the same boat. There is no boat. We aren't being invaded. There have been "illegals" in the USA since before it WAS the USA. Anyone whose families came to this country before 1882 was UNdocumented. So that would make all their descendants "anchor babies" and anchor families. And anyone related to those UNdocumented immigrants who came over after them, chain migrants.

What's the most significant difference between those Europeans and the current batch of UNdocumented immigrants? The color of their skin and their accents, and the fact that the Europeans came over on boats, and the current batch is walking into the continent.

If you think that makes your ancestors or your next door neighbor's ancestors or your mom's hairdresser's brother-in-law's ancestors or any other white anglo ancestors better than the ones coming in from the southern border, then I have some property to sell you at the edge of the very last bit of land the Villages developer will ever build.


This is the new approach to push this country over the edge. If you want people to come into America legally and become citizens and then take up residency, you are now labeled as racist. We have African American, Hispanic and Asian members in our family tree. Do you? Efforts to paint everyone who disagrees with you as evil is getting old.

mlmarr1 04-17-2021 08:12 PM

It's all about free money to stay home..stop the nonsense and watch how fast they find jobs.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-17-2021 09:27 PM

I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found.)

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor.

Aces4 04-17-2021 10:32 PM

[QUOTE=OrangeBlossomBaby;1931484]I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found.)

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor


Too bad the truth doesn’t fit your narrative. I’m the one telling the truth and I sleep well at night knowing that.

MDLNB 04-18-2021 04:51 AM

I guess there are some that when they find out that Chic fil a is closed on Sundays, won't go back again. Can't please all the people all the time. I like Culvers and plan to frequent it many times in the future, whether it is drive thru or dine in. I too get impatient and won't get into a long line, but that will not deter me from returning in the future. Sometimes we drive thru in our golf cart, and sit under a tree across the road to enjoy the open air while consuming our fresh meal. I wonder how many really care if someone stomps off in a tantrum because the dining room is closed.

Dana1963 04-18-2021 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931484)
I think some of you are just making up stories about friends or sons or relatives or neighbors' kids just to prove a point you can't prove otherwise. To whoever had someone file for unemployment two years after they stopped working - either that person defrauded the government, and by extension - us taxpayers - or someone is lying. You -cannot- be eligible for unemployment compensation if you haven't worked for the past two years. There is actually specific criteria. Here it is:

404 - File or directory not found.)

And anyone who KNOWS someone who is intentionally defrauding the government (and by extension - we taxpayers) by refusing to try and work, or refusing to return to work if their employer offers them their job back, should be reporting that person to the department of labor.

Common sense doesn’t work here.

OrangeBlossomBaby 04-18-2021 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by MDLNB (Post 1931504)
I guess there are some that when they find out that Chic fil a is closed on Sundays, won't go back again. Can't please all the people all the time. I like Culvers and plan to frequent it many times in the future, whether it is drive thru or dine in. I too get impatient and won't get into a long line, but that will not deter me from returning in the future. Sometimes we drive thru in our golf cart, and sit under a tree across the road to enjoy the open air while consuming our fresh meal. I wonder how many really care if someone stomps off in a tantrum because the dining room is closed.

Yup. Happened at the post office the other day too. There was a line of four people. The second clerk was on break, and the first clerk had a "situation" with her customer that was causing her to take a long time to resolve it. I was the 4th person in line. The person ahead of me got fed up and left. That made me the 3rd person in line. Five minutes later, the other clerk returned from her break, and 5 minutes after that, it was my turn.

For all that people insist they're retired, what's the hurry, slow down, stop being in a rush - there are a LOT of impatient people here.

mydavid 04-18-2021 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RICH1 (Post 1930938)
The sign on the door said, short staffed use drive-thru ! My choice was Drive-off rather than get in a line that wraps around the building! What happened to this restaurant? The indoor seating has been closed all week! The staff was so pleasant and always so eager to make us happy! Do others feel the same? It will be along time before I return to Culvers!

Went there soon after they open, had to stand in line 10 minuets to order and another several minuets for them to bring the food. Didn't think much of the food or service, never went back.

Bay Kid 04-18-2021 06:38 AM

I owe, I owe, I owe, it is off to the government I go.

Redsmom 04-18-2021 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by donfey (Post 1931254)
Same thing last fall at Bob Evans and others. When the GOVERNMENT pays people to not work, when work is available, are they helping or causing harm? What do you suppose their motive is?

Tear down capitalism and replace it with Socialism.

richs631 04-18-2021 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by schwarz (Post 1930941)
Too many folks receiving too much unemployment insurance... would lose money taking a job

Agree 100%. This is not specific to Culver’s. When the government hands out money like candy to stay home it becomes a problem. Add that to today’s kids that are lazy and feel entitled and this is what you get

richs631 04-18-2021 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1930995)
Not sure where you folks got your information about this sudden shortage of staff being the result of a windfall of money. Most people who quit their jobs do NOT collect any unemployment at all. They're not eligible for it. You can't just up and walk out on a job and expect to get your unemployment claim approved. That's not how it works.

Culver's ALWAYS has lines going around the building during the typical dinner rush. They had those lines even when the dining room was open, before the pandemic shut-downs. I'm guessing that they are -currently- short-staffed, because of normal mundane issues. One person is out on maternity leave, another is sick, another got a better job somewhere else, and another moved and no longer lives close enough to keep working there, and it all happened in the same week.

Meanwhile, minimum wage will be going up to $10/hour in September. It's very likely that some people are choosing to -not- work for $8.65/hour, for the next few months.

And yes I'm sure there are at least a few people who are taking advantage of the unemployment funding boost. However - if they are caught lying about being available, actively seeking, and able to return to work, they not only get cut off, they risk having to pay back ALL the money that was given to them from the first day of their claim.

In addition, the money is only available until the expiration date. It's not likely they'll get another extension on the extra.

With all do respect your giving to much credit to today’s generation. I’m not painting every kid with the same brush but believe me nobody and I mean nobody will ever get caught lying on an unemployment application. It’s run by the government 😂😂😂

eyc234 04-18-2021 07:01 AM

There is a huge problem with people not applying or looking for jobs. Just watch any local news and they are doing stories everyday about businesses running at half or lower capacity or even closing due to lack of employees or applicants. Go to the early days of pandemic and governor suspended requirement to show an actual real search for employment requirement to receive unemployment. If you are making as much or more staying home why go to work? Not saying that is only reason but it is hard to deny that it is not part of the problem and should be looked into as part of the solution for people going back to work.

richs631 04-18-2021 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 1931004)
Culvers employees are not seasonal employees. This is a thread about Culver's. They are not laid off for a season.

In fact, MOST people who work for a living, are NOT seasonal employees. MOST people who work for a living, do so all year round. And there are actual laws with regards to how ANYONE is allowed to collect unemployment compensation. It is regulated state-wide rather than federally. You know, that minimal government the conservative types love so much. Whether they are eligible or not for their state's unemployment compensation program is dependent on their state's criteria.

If you feel Florida's unemployment compensation is given out too generously, then take it up with the Florida government. They're the ones who make the rules around here.

FYI. This COVID thing with unemployment is not Florida’s doing it’s federal

justjim 04-18-2021 07:03 AM

The demand for workers far exceeds the supply. A labor shortage has been predicted for several years and it’s particularly problematic in The Villages where the local labor supply just hasn’t kept up with the growth and expansion. A shortage of labor has been a major issue for restaurants long before Covid because of the low wages and benefits. Florida is at or near the bottom of States on this issue of wages and benefits. It’s not only a problem for unskilled workers but also recruiting skilled employees as well. Perhaps the “sunshine” is no longer enough to attract and keep good employees.

Aces4 04-18-2021 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1931547)
The demand for workers far exceeds the supply. A labor shortage has been predicted for several years and it’s particularly problematic in The Villages where the local labor supply just hasn’t kept up with the growth and expansion. A shortage of labor has been a major issue for restaurants long before Covid because of the low wages and benefits. Florida is at or near the bottom of States on this issue of wages and benefits. It’s not only a problem for unskilled workers but also recruiting skilled employees as well. Perhaps the “sunshine” is no longer enough to attract and keep good employees.

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Pat2015 04-18-2021 08:38 AM

Plenty of people haven’t missed a day of work throughout the pandemic. It’s not about feeling comfortable about going back to work at this point, it’s about getting paid to stay home and in some cases being paid more to stay home than go to work.


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