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wisbad1 12-21-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by village dreamer (Post 2395173)
dogs can lick the dish at johnny rockets . i have witness that .

Done with that place, terrible service and food, $$$$$$

CFrance 12-21-2024 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruckvilla (Post 2395107)
Love seeing all the dogs in the villages.
Are there any restaurants that allow dogs to join our friends for dinner when they visit? Patio areas in the squares? Country clubs?

The answer to the question posted is in post 27. Naysayers can be disregarded.
Responsible dog owners will know if their dog is well behaved enough to go to dinner in the allowable places. Hopefully dog owners are honest enough to know their dog's behavior is good enough, or leave them home.

As for people feeding their dog from the table; more info needed. Were they outside in an allowable place? If so, passing a piece of pizza from their hand to the dog on the ground is a non event.
There is the option to go inside if you don't want to see dogs at a restaurant. If a dog is misbehaving outside to the point of obstructing others' meals, complain to the management.

OrangeBlossomBaby 12-21-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2395380)
The concern should be less over whether the animal is a bona fide service animal and more over whether the animal is under control. A service animal that is misbehaving and not under control can be removed. An animal that might not be a service animal but is at the owner’s side and out of the way is not a problem.

That's your opinion. But it isn't the law. And establishments (such as restaurants, fast-food chains, supermarkets, doctor's offices, department stores, phone company offices, etc etc etc) reserve the RIGHT to not allow pets - whether controlled or otherwise. That is THEIR right. You have the right to not go to these places, and they have the right to not let your pet through their doors.

Service animals are TRAINED to behave. That's an actual thing. Pets might, or might not be trained to behave. You don't get to find out until after the damage is done.

If all of this bothers you, stay home. You're allowed to, that is your right. Or you can go and be bothered by it. That is also your right. What you don't have the right to do, is bring your pet into any building owned or rented by someone other than you. That would be a privilege granted to you by the owner/tenant.

Bill14564 12-21-2024 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2395447)
That's your opinion. But it isn't the law. And establishments (such as restaurants, fast-food chains, supermarkets, doctor's offices, department stores, phone company offices, etc etc etc) reserve the RIGHT to not allow pets - whether controlled or otherwise. That is THEIR right. You have the right to not go to these places, and they have the right to not let your pet through their doors.

Service animals are TRAINED to behave. That's an actual thing. Pets might, or might not be trained to behave. You don't get to find out until after the damage is done.

If all of this bothers you, stay home. You're allowed to, that is your right. Or you can go and be bothered by it. That is also your right. What you don't have the right to do, is bring your pet into any building owned or rented by someone other than you. That would be a privilege granted to you by the owner/tenant.

I don’t believe you are right that you have the right to explain to me my rights. Or perhaps you believe you have the right to grant me rights but you would not be right about that right either.

As for my post, you are right that the first sentence is my opinion. However, the second sentence is the LAW (had to get the caps in there somehow). The third sentence is a statement of fact, neither opinion or law.

You may want to break out the law books again. Of course, it’s your right to not do that, but it would help you to be more right when making assertions about rights.

Deden 12-21-2024 11:40 PM

I have no words except... Glad I don't eat at your house.

dewilson58 12-21-2024 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2395457)
I have no words except... Glad I don't eat at your house.

Really need to reply to a specific post if you want us to care.

Bonanza 12-21-2024 11:50 PM

There's Nothing to Think About!
 
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Originally Posted by Deden (Post 2395457)
I have no words except... Glad I don't eat at your house.

I don't think you were invited!

dewilson58 12-21-2024 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2395441)
I once saw a guy at Lake Sumter with a bird on his shoulder, he opened his mouth and the bird picked at his teeth.

he is at every square

Bonanza 12-22-2024 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2395447)
That's your opinion. But it isn't the law. And establishments (such as restaurants, fast-food chains, supermarkets, doctor's offices, department stores, phone company offices, etc etc etc) reserve the RIGHT to not allow pets - whether controlled or otherwise. That is THEIR right. You have the right to not go to these places, and they have the right to not let your pet through their doors.

Service animals are TRAINED to behave. That's an actual thing. Pets might, or might not be trained to behave. You don't get to find out until after the damage is done.

If all of this bothers you, stay home. You're allowed to, that is your right. Or you can go and be bothered by it. That is also your right. What you don't have the right to do, is bring your pet into any building owned or rented by someone other than you. That would be a privilege granted to you by the owner/tenant.

The establishments you mention cannot prevent the entry of a "certified" service dog --THAT is against the law.
They can prevent you from entering but not the dog!

retiredguy123 12-22-2024 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bonanza (Post 2395465)
The establishments you mention cannot prevent the entry of a "certified" service dog --THAT is against the law.
They can prevent you from entering but not the dog!

There is no such thing as a "certified" service dog. The dog owner can self-train and self-certify a service dog, and no one can dispute them. There are no organizations who can certify a service dog, although some organizations claim that they can for a fee. The ADA Act does not require any dog owner to provide any written evidence that their service dog is trained or certified. That is the problem with the Federal law.

Jjtgoirish 12-22-2024 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 2395288)
My dog/dogs lick the plates at my house..... I have a dishwasher, I assume Johnny Rockets does too.

You should not assume!

swooner 12-22-2024 05:58 AM

Disgusting!

Kelevision 12-22-2024 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bopat (Post 2395174)
Dogs in stores and restaurants really freak me out. I think about them ****ing on something or licking something that someone might buy....yech!!!

That sounds like a YOU problem.

RICH1 12-22-2024 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2395157)
Flipper's allows you to feed your dog from the table.................I have not been back.

:censored:

YES, i agree with you! I can't be near a dog, because of my allergies... I love Dogs, but I love breathing even more...

RICH1 12-22-2024 06:28 AM

sneeze

TerryBo 12-22-2024 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2395157)
Flipper's allows you to feed your dog from the table.................I have not been back.

:censored:

Ouch. Been going to the one in Spanish Springs. Wish I didn’t hear this.

ByebyeMichigan 12-22-2024 07:42 AM

Leave your dog at home when you’re going out to a restaurant , period.

CFrance 12-22-2024 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ByebyeMichigan (Post 2395483)
Leave your dog at home when you’re going out to a restaurant , period.


Nobody gets to tell anybody else what to do. If a restaurant allows dogs and one doesn't like it, one gets to stay away.

Ruckvilla 12-22-2024 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pcntech (Post 2395344)
These are the ones I know of that allow dogs on patios or outside area
TwoJays
Broken Yoke
Toasted Yoke
Fiesta Grande
Five Guys
McAllister's
Harvest
Scoople's
Sawgrass (Buy food inside and then dine outside)
Gators
Johnny Rockets - they have a pup menu
Culver's
Jersey Mike's
Willie Jewel
Edna's on the Green
World of Beer
Ruby Tuesday
Panera Bread (Spanish Springs..not sure about Lake Sumter)
Chick Salad Chick
Wendy's

Might be more that I have not dined at yet.


Thanks for the REPLY! Sad that many people use these helpful opportunities to vent. They just can't wait to express their obviously more important opinions! 😅

Altavia 12-22-2024 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=banjobob;2395349]
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Originally Posted by Ruckvilla (Post 2395107)
Love seeing all the dogs in the villages.
Are there any restaurants that allow dogs to join our friends for dinner
when they visit? Patio areas in the squares? Country clubs?[/QUOTE


Just a question as to why your dog should accompany you to dinner??
They are not your children .

When I spent time in France, some finer restaurants permitted well behaved dogs but not children. :D

:mmmm:

GATORBILL66 12-22-2024 09:39 AM

Dogs should not be allowed near food. I won't eat at any restaurant that allow animals. i was so glad when Publix banned dogs in their stores.

retiredguy123 12-22-2024 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2395506)
Dogs should not be allowed near food. I won't eat at any restaurant that allow animals. i was so glad when Publix banned dogs in their stores.

Me too. Publix banned pets and emotional support animals, but they cannot ban service dogs. So, some people still show up with a dog.

Topspinmo 12-22-2024 09:46 AM

I don’t understand why have to take dog or any animal out to dinner UNLESS person legally BLIND by themselves?

Topspinmo 12-22-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2395509)
Me too. Publix banned pets and emotional support animals, but they cannot ban service dogs. So, some people still show up with a dog.

Yep, watches guy walk in yesterday with his tiny service dog caring it.

Bill14564 12-22-2024 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2395510)
I don’t understand why have to take dog or any animal out to dinner UNLESS person legally BLIND by themselves?

Which is one of the reasons establishments are for the most part prohibited from challenging service dogs. Helping the blind may be the most obvious service a trained animal can provide but is far from the only service a trained animal can provide.

Just because you don't understand what service the animal is providing or the establishment isn't aware that an animal could provide a particular service or neither of you believe anyone really needs that service doesn't mean the disabled person should be denied the service.

retiredguy123 12-22-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2395513)
Which is one of the reasons establishments are for the most part prohibited from challenging service dogs. Helping the blind may be the most obvious service a trained animal can provide but is far from the only service a trained animal can provide.

Just because you don't understand what service the animal is providing or the establishment isn't aware that an animal could provide a particular service or neither of you believe anyone really needs that service doesn't mean the disabled person should be denied the service.

I don't have an issue with service animals but the law should provide a way for businesses to verify the validity of the service animals. It should not be an honor system because many people are not honorable.

nordic tug 12-22-2024 10:03 AM

Zoo
 
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Originally Posted by Ruckvilla (Post 2395107)
Love seeing all the dogs in the villages.
Are there any restaurants that allow dogs to join our friends for dinner when they visit? Patio areas in the squares? Country clubs?

If you want to eat with the animals go to the zoo! Restaurants are for humans!

Bill14564 12-22-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2395516)
I don't have an issue with service animals but the law should provide a way for businesses to verify the validity of the service animals. It should not be an honor system because many people are not honorable.

Many people are not honorable and cheat the system. There ought to be a way to catch them and assess penalties for taking benefits truly needed by others.

But that brings us back to dogs in restaurants. What benefits are frauds taking away from those truly in need? What harm are the frauds causing to others? What advantage are the frauds gaining over the rest of us? I can't think of any which is why I wrote what I did in post #36.

gbs317 12-22-2024 10:24 AM

My wife wanted a pet monkey but remembered she has me.

mikempp 12-22-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by HORNET (Post 2395379)
Why don’t these people just grow up

I agree, the complainers should grow up.

Wenham 12-22-2024 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GATORBILL66 (Post 2395506)
Dogs should not be allowed near food. I won't eat at any restaurant that allow animals. i was so glad when Publix banned dogs in their stores.

Apparently not the one in Mulberry

Bill14564 12-22-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wenham (Post 2395528)
Apparently not the one in Mulberry

There were a couple of threads last year about dogs in Publix.

There are Federal rules prohibiting pets in grocery stores and no Florida laws explicitly allowing pets in grocery stores. Service animals must be allowed.

Assuming you wrote that because you personally witnessed an animal in the Mulberry Publix, did they knowingly allow a pet in the store, were they unaware a pet was in the store, or are you just assuming the animal you saw was not a service animal?

There are rules but some people lie and cheat and others make bad assumptions. Individual managers may neglect to enforce those rules or they simply may not be aware that rules are being broken.


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