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Skip 01-17-2016 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dgammon6 (Post 1171977)
He was referring to admittance to the restaurant.

Anyone can have dinner there. Menu prices are the same for residents and non-residents.

Bottom line: It's no longer residents only. (Still waiting for the Daily Sun to tell me that !)

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Newbeginnings 01-17-2016 09:06 AM

We tried it last night, 8 of us. Made a reservation 1 week ago for 2 tables of 4 side by side, when we got there they were going to seat us across the isle from each other, this is not what we reserved, hostess said the website seating is not correct, so they they adjusted and accommodated for us. The food was below average, over cooked fish and steaks, pretty tasteless, slow service, did not care for it all, and no one else did in our party. We would go back to have an appetizer, drinks and dancing, but not for dinner. We did not have high expectations but this was kind of a disaster. The good thing is I liked the decor and much cleaner and refreshed than the old Katie Bells.

Bonny 01-17-2016 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kidshelleen51 (Post 1172623)
Well Bonny has manage to cheerlead on every page of this post. Katie belle's was special and now it is just another dinner joint. Schwartz wanted it to be special, and his sons tried their best. Now, 2 billion in profits later and the grandkids want more. They make money selling you a house. They make money renting buildings to restaurants, medical offices and virtually every other property in tjhe area. Why couldn't there be one place for residents only that tried it's best to break even and not seek to squeeze more dollars out of the people that have made them wealthy? Schwartz and Gary both got it. Bonny aside, this place isn't as special as it use to be. If I want a good dinner I'll go to Harry's or the Lopez. Palmer. Bonefish ...etc. Many of my visitors will miss the old KB/CB as much as I will.

They make money because this is their business. Why do we need a place for residents only? I'm not sure what you mean by it's not as special as it was.
And yes, if you want a good dinner, you should go to places that you like.
Life is all about choices.
I like what I like, you like what you like.
I cheerlead for many things. Life is just way to short to focus on negativity.
We are never sure how much time we have so I plan on being happy and just having a good time while I still can.

Bonny 01-17-2016 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by outlaw (Post 1172629)
So, just a hunch? No actual financials or word from the Morses?

Only stating what I know & saw.

Marathon Man 01-17-2016 10:58 AM

I like cheerleaders.

gesivad 01-17-2016 01:28 PM

What a missed opportunity. We went to the new Katie Belle's last night with high hopes after reading the glowing reviews on this site and we were very disappointed. The problems started as soon as we arrived when the hostess tried to seat our party of eight at tables that were not located as our reservation had displayed them. We were told that tables are not necessarily located as they are displayed on the website. Then what is the point? After some serious complaining to the manager she reluctantly arranged to table to meet our needs but we were located very near the hostess stations with at least six greeters standing around looking for things to do. Service was terribly slow with long delays between drink and food orders. Once our food was finally delivered to our table the food was overdone and cold. The food on our plates looked like it was served from a buffet line and was tasteless. Once we had finished our meal and were ready to leave it took at least 20 minutes and repeated request to get our check. We will not be returning for dinner.

tomwed 01-17-2016 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1172664)
I am all for profit. Beats the heck out of running in the red...

I think that having one single place that only residents and their guests could go would be more profitable. It ties into that "living like a millionaire" snobbery that I couldn't afford anywhere else.

I just find it astonishing that it could be successful when the place was 5 times smaller and they still don't have any competition because there are no other dinner theaters or woopie de do review places.

That's not bashing. I love the place.

Unless they were always loosing money.
What if they said were are going to make this a private club. Your dues are $20/yr just to get in and does not include the cover, menu or drinks. Would 10,000 people sign up? I think so, sort of like the Knights of Columbus. [maybe a bad example]

MoeVonB61 01-17-2016 06:51 PM

gesivad: We also went to Katie Belles last night to see my favorite band, Uncle Bob's Rock Shop. I LOVE the new décor (no more dusty hanging curtains) but my husband does not like. We opted to sit at the bar (beautifully designed) to eat dinner after being told it would be a 1.5 hour wait to sit in the "entertainment" area. I ordered the chicken alfredo and my husband ordered the eggplant parm. Mine was excellent; his was served without any sauce on or for the spaghetti and he had to ask to get some....the eggplant was also very bland :(. As for the claims here for $8 glasses of wine; mine was $6 (white moscato) and the house drinks are only $5.....the place is still great for dancing but 2 MAJOR issues I did not see mentioned here. (1) They missed the mark on the acoustics (band so close to a glass ceiling) AND they really need to fix the air conditioning which everybody was complaining about......I do intend to return when I have girlfriends visiting......my husband says he will not eat eat dinner there again.

virgind 01-18-2016 08:19 AM

Never did like Katie Belles.I some times think these places picture themselves something they are not.

graciegirl 01-18-2016 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1173389)
Never did like Katie Belles.I some times think these places picture themselves something they are not.



Lot of that goin' on.

tomwed 01-18-2016 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by virgind (Post 1173389)
Never did like Katie Belles.I some times think these places picture themselves something they are not.

I'm curious. What did it picture itself?

I can see the argument how the church on the square was not really a church.
And I know that fountain in the center is not really the fountain of youth.
The whole place is sort of pretend.

tuccillo 01-18-2016 09:08 AM

I hope you are not suggesting that the cattle, horse, cowboy, and dog at the entrance to Brownwood are not real ;-)

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1173421)
I'm curious. What did it picture itself?

I can see the argument how the church on the square was not really a church.
And I know that fountain in the center is not really the fountain of youth.
The whole place is sort of pretend.


outlaw 01-18-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Newbeginnings (Post 1173361)
I posted up a few threads, he was in my party of 8, don't understand your point. He reads TOTV, doesn't post much because of the harassment some people make if you state a negative opinion.

Oh so true. Or how about a different opinion?

Bonny 01-18-2016 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tomwed (Post 1173056)
I think that having one single place that only residents and their guests could go would be more profitable. It ties into that "living like a millionaire" snobbery that I couldn't afford anywhere else.

I just find it astonishing that it could be successful when the place was 5 times smaller and they still don't have any competition because there are no other dinner theaters or woopie de do review places.

That's not bashing. I love the place.

Unless they were always loosing money.
What if they said were are going to make this a private club. Your dues are $20/yr just to get in and does not include the cover, menu or drinks. Would 10,000 people sign up? I think so, sort of like the Knights of Columbus. [maybe a bad example]

They tried that when they made the upstairs Cattle Baron. It was going to be for members only & you had to spend so much a month. Talk about a lot of angry people over that change !!! Needless to say, that didn't work.

gvf331 01-18-2016 12:33 PM

Katie Belles disappointment
 
I agree with you 100%. There are many fine restaurants but there was only one Katie Bells. Not only in the Villages but the Cuntry. They could have done many things to increase the profit margin of Cattle Baron and Katie Bells. So to think that they had to put retail in the down stairs just does not make sense unless they want to make as much money as possible. We always brought our house guests there and I do believe the Old Katie Bells served as a great marketing tool for that reason alone.

Now it is just a fine place to eat like many other places. I guess I am spoiled, but I expected it to be improved not diminished. Why didn't the raise the roof and keep it with two floors. Could have added a cover charge, entertainment charge etc to make it profitable.

Certainly the construction cost was already high with what they did to create retail rent.


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