Originally Posted by sunday (Post 341223)

In referance managemant of Mallory and Glenview... Randy P. is a partner and common denominator in both restaurants...but to my knowledge has limited involvement in both. He runs his restaurant in Belleview... while the Country Clubs are operated by 2 different partners of his... Hince the vast difference in the in the organizations. Just FYI

Originally Posted by bigalibaba (Post 340563)

A very interesting perspective. By the way, how do you explain the fact that Glenview (One of your Good choices) and Mallory (One of your stinko places) are both run by the same person, Randy Perkins.

Actually I think both of these are mediocre at best. Common to both, and Cane Garde, is their very poor treatment of Golf Groups of 12 - 20 players, none of whom they allow to sit down until all are present. They think it's OK to make Group #1 wait 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th green finishes # 18. When I finish my round I want to sit down, have a drink and order a meal. I don't want to be bullied by an arrogant Manager of Hostess who have no conception that golfers don't want to wait until the last group finishes to be seated.

Originally Posted by l2ridehd (Post 340494)

There is a very easy to understand problem here. If I took a poll of 1000 Villagers on CC food quality, I would have a fairly consistent pattern. Lopez, Palmer and Cane Garden would be at the top, Glenview close, OB and Hacienda in the middle and Tierra, Mallory and Havana at the bottom. Order might vary by one position or so but it would be close. They all have the same buildings and kitchens and parking lots. They all hire their staff from the same pool of talent and they all have the same customer base. There is only one difference of any significance. Now I have been accused of being in an ivory tower, even snarky for saying this, but that is just the lack of knowledge of those people. Management is the only difference. If I shifted those managers right by 4 places, within 90 days the pattern would follow the management.

Follow Warren Buffett. He only buys companies with solid management that have a proven track record. Now yes, that leads to good earnings history, low debt to equity, and solid value, but it is because of the management. Follow the successful mutual funds and it always because of the management. Listen to Adam Bold or Ric Edelman and there whole sales pitch is the mutual fund manager.

Can good managers fail? Sure. Usually as a result of an outside force. War, earthquake, flood, fire, or some event outside their control. 100% of all problems in any business are owned by the management of that business. Good managers solve those problems and deliver results. I don't care what the business is the rule is the same.

The good places to eat have good management. The bad ones ...........

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 341387)

Hi Bigalibaba,
If the first group holds seats for 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th hole finishes, should other patrons who come in during that time have to wait for a table while seats are saved for people who will be there 40 minutes later?

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 341400)

I think Bigalibaba's point was that he wants to be seated when he is finished golfing, and not wait for his compadres. Perhaps I'm missing the point here.

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 341675)

Yes he wants to be seated but that would mean holding the other places empty until all get there. If you have 3-4 foursomes and you seat the first foursome that would be about a half hour to 45 min before the last group arrived.

Not sure how I feel about this. I do know that I don't want to be told that it will be 30/40 min wait and I see 2-3 four tops empty while they finish their round. Don't think that's fair either.

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 341685)

Thanks Russ. That's what I was trying to say.

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 341689)

I have another confession to make. I like to grocery shop too.

Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 341702)

Don't tell anyone but I'm with you. Maybe we can leave Sweetie and Linda home and hit the market!

Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 341387)

Hi Bigalibaba,
If the first group holds seats for 30-40 minutes until the group on the 14th hole finishes, should other patrons who come in during that time have to wait for a table while seats are saved for people who will be there 40 minutes later?