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banjobob 11-08-2020 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1857644)
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

A letter to corporate is probably a waste, A conversation with the manager about his grooming and offensive mask would be my top gripe.

Rzepecki 11-08-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1857644)
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

You didn’t say whether he was clean or dirty. Was his hair clean? Were his clothes clean? Were his hands clean? Did he smell badly? Other than that, I don’t think you have a say in his appearance. Maybe he didn’t like your earrings or your clothes, but he served you well anyway.

haysus7 11-08-2020 09:16 AM

Not true about BLM. Long nails on server is gross

karostay 11-08-2020 09:27 AM

stay home simple solution

canyonblue 11-08-2020 09:37 AM

As far as the BLM mask, if it matters to anyone there is a problem. Where do you draw the line? What if the mask had...

MAGA
TRUMP 2020
BIDEN 2020
PRO CHOICE
PRO LIFE
PROUD BOYS
ANTIFA
AMERICAN FLAG
CONFEDERATE FLAG

The easiest way to avoid any issues is mandating that your employees ONLY wear SOLID COLOR masks. The First Amendment is between you and the government, not you and your employer.

Mr.Alaska 11-08-2020 09:38 AM

Absolute sign of poor management!
Before any server goes on the floor, management should go over specials of the day, soups of the day, make sure hair is under control and a inspection of clothing and personal effects, including long and dirty fingernails.
I'm quite sure there health code violations in this case. Kudos to you for bringing it to the owners attention

Happinow 11-08-2020 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Art cov (Post 1857817)
Yes totally gross! Makes me uncomfortable anywhere, but the server! I would have talked to the manager and if need be, I would go to the general manager. Sometimes the owner is around even of the chain restaurants ( franchises). Some corporations will ignore unless the complaint has gone up the chain of command. I do believe our voices should be heard in a very nice and to the point way. In some cases the manager is wanting this complaint, so they can take action. They will go the last mile with a customer being the problem but an employee is at times another story. If this gross appearance is at our tables, what’s going on behind the scenes? Oh by the way, what did corporate say?

Haven’t heard back yet.....

janetD 11-08-2020 09:51 AM

It is coming across to me that hygiene issues weren't this poster's main concern as he/she would have only mentioned that. Why need to mention hair, piercings and attire if none of those affected your supposed concern over the health quality of what you were served??The server doesn't conform to what they believe is an acceptable way to present oneself and other commenters made assumptions about the person's sexual orientation cleanliness and the managers ability to hire staff. Just admit it. You are uncomfortable with people who do not follow what you consider to be the way one should look. That's fine you are entitled to your opinion. My opinion that I am entitled to is that I would hope people would be less judgemental of looks and more concerned with the quality of the person. It concerns me to feel I am living around so many close minded judgemental people. Thought by the age most of us have achieved that we would have learned that a person's character is most important. I am in no way condoning any practices that would affect the health and safety of anyone eating at any establishment but wonder why you felt the need to post this. It's a personal decision if you choose not to support this restaurant. Why impose your judgement on others. Am I living completely in the dark unaware that most people are concerned about the issues mentioned in the post. And the call from so many to name the restaurant-- why??

Peggy Weaver 11-08-2020 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Aloha1 (Post 1857675)
I would have left the restaurant. IMHO, if somebody wants to mutilate their body, that's their choice. My choice is I don't have to look at it.

Agreed.

Neils 11-08-2020 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 1857859)
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

Vote with your feet. You should not have others views forced on you to ruin your dining. Take your $ elsewhere.
The place will soon shut down.

MBrose 11-08-2020 09:56 AM

How dare anyone say that someone with long nails is lazy. I have an impeccable home which I scrub on from top to bottom myself. I work on a computer 12 hours a day for 40 years. I get compliments from both women and men on my nails and home. I clean my own car , I garden and I am also OCD and a germophobe and people tell me they would eat off my floors. Don’t tell me that my nails are an issue, your bigotry sounds like the issue.

airstreamingypsy 11-08-2020 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Girlcopper (Post 1857805)
Ok. His hair was pulled back. Check. Long fingernails like many females have. Check. Piercings, so? Check. BLM mask. NEVER. Im out the door in a heartbeat with no explanation. I wont have someones ideals shoved down my throat

So, you think he would have force fed you his mask? LOL

Indydealmaker 11-08-2020 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 1857859)
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

BLM and piercings have nothing to do with racism. Stop singing that song.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-08-2020 10:15 AM

This thread sounds like a lot of fake news , right down to adding the BLM mask which I think put this story over the top . I would see nothing wrong with his appearance in some trendy restaurant at home in Boston but even if he had the right to look like what was described I doubt whether server or management would chose to allow the BLM mask in the villages area although I wouldn’t mind it at all , but until the name of restaurant is put out there , I’ll just still believe that this is another stealth way of putting out another racist thread

asiebel 11-08-2020 10:30 AM

I am glad the waiter is working, but it is managements place to require certain standards from their workers! I hope you talked to the manager!

Gulfcoast 11-08-2020 10:33 AM

Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.

GOLFER54 11-08-2020 10:40 AM

Why any restaurant would hire somebody like that to work for them and represent their business is beyond comprehension. I’ve been to Restaurants with severs wearing very short pants covered in tattoos from their ankles to their necks, stud earrings on tongue, noses and ears, obviously owners are desperate for help so they employ these people. Inappropriate dress seems to be overlooked today.

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-08-2020 11:02 AM

Yes and card had to be cranked
 
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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1857997)
Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.

to start so we could all go to work for 25 cents per hour

charlieo1126@gmail.com 11-08-2020 11:05 AM

Yes like all those middle age white guys showing up in restaurants in shots they wore all day , gentleman put on some big boy pants at night no one wants to see your upper thighs while eating

sooziesoul 11-08-2020 11:05 AM

Yes they do! I believe that part of grooming for service jobs should have standards ! I worked in dentistry and short nails were one of the standards! Same with nursing and I think that dealing with food should have high standards of cleanliness as well!

sooziesoul 11-08-2020 11:06 AM

If higher standards were kept by restaurants, maybe there would not be so many complaints!

Gulfcoast 11-08-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1858008)
to start so we could all go to work for 25 cents per hour

A good server can make a lot of money. I waited tables for college money and I could really make bank on a weekend night. You have to know your menu, you have to give great customer service, you have to be pleasant, you have to appear to be clean or you will simply not make as much money as a server who bothers to do those things.

I can not tell you how many job offers I got as a server, too - good paying office jobs. Something else to think about.

LWoodLMT 11-08-2020 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1857759)
I did have options and I wrote corporate...😊

But you sat and ate your meal. Not me. There are plenty of other restaurants to pick from.

jimhurtt@twc.com 11-08-2020 11:44 AM

You can't discriminate. Particularly if he might have been LBGTQrstuvwxyz.

deestatham@aol.com 11-08-2020 11:46 AM

I agree
 
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Originally Posted by Happinow (Post 1857644)
Last night we went to a restaurant to enjoy a dinner out. We were promptly seated and approached by our server. Our server was a guy. Now before you all go off on me, I’m not racist nor do I care what people chose to do with their lives. He was pleasant. What was disturbing is the fact that he had very long fingernails (made me nauseas) which when he touched our bowls, his nails went over the edge toward the inside of our plates. He also had a BLM mask on, plenty of earrings and other visible piercings, and long hair which was held back by sparkly Hair clips. I had all I could do to eat my dinner without constantly seeing those long fingernails. When I go out to eat, I don’t go out to have any political, religious or other personal preference shoved in my face. I go to relax and chat with my husband over some good food.

I would think that these long nails would be a health concern for the restaurant. Think of the gross stuff that is under those nails??

I did come home and write to corporate. People have the right to be who they want to be , however when their poor hygiene affects my food and a dining experience I paid for, it crosses the line for me.

Blast off!

This is very well said without “offending” anyone. That’s another word I’m sick of. This was gross. What the hell is happening in this world? I’m afraid I would’ve left without eating. Hope you didn’t leave a tip!!

Stu from NYC 11-08-2020 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by deestatham@aol.com (Post 1858030)
This is very well said without “offending” anyone. That’s another word I’m sick of. This was gross. What the hell is happening in this world? I’m afraid I would’ve left without eating. Hope you didn’t leave a tip!!

Could have left him a note that said something along the line here is a tip. Pay attention to your grooming.:bigbow:

petiteone 11-08-2020 01:14 PM

Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

bpascani 11-08-2020 01:17 PM

I agree with you totally. I think I would have asked for another table, or just left without ordering (hopefully that waiter was the one that came to the table to take your order.??)

Littlebird 11-08-2020 01:23 PM

:clap2:
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Originally Posted by Gulfcoast (Post 1857997)
Back when I waited tables, servers were required to keep their nails relatively short, clean, any nail polish had to be clear or very light neutral pink. Long hair had to be put up in a bun with a hairnet around the bun part, uniforms had to be clean and wrinkle free, you could have no odor either from fragrances or BO. Make up had to be light. If you showed up to work in violation of any of those rules you would be sent home as a no call/no show if the situation could not be corrected right then and there (nail polish remover, hair net, etc). If you got sent home enough within a certain time span, you would be fired.

I agree!! It's not an issue of gender, race, political or religious views, it's an issue of laws in food service and the respect of the restaurant owner/corp. that provides jobs to servers like us. If it's ok to come to work and serve food without following dept of health guidelines then I guess it's ok for your dentist, doctor or surgeon to slack off too.

coffeebean 11-08-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1857808)
I prefer to see servers wearing gloves and a mask. And I want everyone in the kitchen to be wearing a mask and gloves, too.

Wearing gloves is the worst thing a server or any food preparer can do. Why? They think wearing gloves makes it safe for them NOT to wash their hands frequently. Most people, misunderstand the use of gloves. The gloves are worn to protect the person wearing the gloves, not the patrons. When someone wears gloves, they do not realize that the gloves harbor germs just a readily as bare hands do. Not removing the gloves and donning a new pair of gloves is a recipe for disaster.

Don't wear gloves but wash or sanitize hands frequently. That is the way to go. Ditch the gloves unless you have a cut on your hands and you must protect yourself. If that is the case, wash your gloved hands frequently if you don't want to constantly have to change gloves.

Which brings me to the proper way to don and remove gloves. There is a proper way to do this so as not to contaminate clean hands. I would bet many people have no idea how to do this. Hence.....wearing gloves is a very BAD idea.

La lamy 11-08-2020 01:47 PM

I read that long nails are not supposed to be worn in restaurants which maybe so, but I wonder if the disgust was mostly a sexist thing. Women with long nails and long hair clipped back probably wouldn't have stirred the same reaction right?

retiredguy123 11-08-2020 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1858052)
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

That's a tough question. But, if I had to be honest, the answer would be no. To both questions actually.

Parnell 11-08-2020 02:34 PM

I'm glad you didn't name the restaurant because they are struggling to stay alive in the covid crisis.

Barborv 11-08-2020 02:52 PM

We all have things that gross us out. Has nothing to do with being racist(which I don';t understand what the person is has anything to do with it) or anything else. I have a friend who told me she gets grossed out from servers who are covered in tattoos. My daughter is a pastry chef and is covered in tattoos. My friend did order a speciality cake from her. I guess because she is my daughter and knows so much about her, she had no problem. Can not judge a book by its cover. I also have to add that in the food industry you are not supposed to have long, or painted nails. My point is, I couldn't care less if they are male and wearing a ballet tootoo! But the hands touching my dish is another thing!

Gulfcoast 11-08-2020 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by petiteone (Post 1858052)
Would you have felt the same if some sexy girl with long blond hair, a White Girl Power hat, tight revealing shorts and long sparklie nails served you? Or would yo have been distracted by her firm bouncy butt?

I would consider that to be unprofessional and gross. I prefer clean uniforms and a neat well manicured appearance so I would avoid eating an establishment with servers attired as you describe. I would truly wonder about the cleanliness of the kitchen and the restaurant's standards for food preparation.

Number 10 GI 11-08-2020 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 1857859)
There is gross stuff under short nails too. The fact that you mentioned the piercings and the BLM mask makes this nothing more than a racist rant. My recommendation is to frequent places of business where the workers look just like you. Younger generations express themselves differently than you do if this bothers you, you have a choice to make. Stay home and cook for yourself or change with the times.

I re-read the original post and no where I read was there a mention of the race of the server. So what is racist about the post? Because they mention BLM? I wouldn't be happy if the server was wearing a MAGA hat/mask and I'm a conservative. I go to an entertainment venue to enjoy myself and get away from all the garbage happening in the world. Political/social statements have no place in a business serving the public. Yeah, I know, racist, racist, racist, racist! Used so much that it means nothing. Get a new dead horse to beat.

coffeebean 11-08-2020 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by charlieo1126@gmail.com (Post 1858009)
Yes like all those middle age white guys showing up in restaurants in shots they wore all day , gentleman put on some big boy pants at night no one wants to see your upper thighs while eating

You aren't serious, right? Most men only own shorts in Florida. They go everywhere in shorts. Where have you been?

coffeebean 11-08-2020 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimhurtt@twc.com (Post 1858029)
You can't discriminate. Particularly if he might have been LBGTQrstuvwxyz.

LMAO. Sounds like what I say too.

Cranford61 11-08-2020 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NJRICHARD (Post 1857860)
Without naming the restaurant your complaint is not helping the rest of us! This PC attitude, 'I don't want to hurt anyone's FEELINGS' and being nice to the world stuff is how we get no results. I am not saying be nasty, but you have a valid issue and in order for it to have any results it's worthless.

I agree. Cowardice to avoid talking to manager and ‘going to Corporate’.

Eg_cruz 11-08-2020 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1857685)
Just face the fact YOU had options SPEAK UP, refuse meal and ask for Manager.
Name the Restaurant!

Wow ....why the caps
Chill is all ok


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