Yep, I'm waiting for 100%, plus extra charge when they take my credit card in the back room charge up so stuff for them. And it will happen sooner or later with all the little skimmers lurking

I am aware of some restaurants adding a gratuity to a bill when a large group is charged for multiple meals on a single bill. But, in this case, each person placed a separate order with a server and received their own individual bill with a 20 percent gratuity added to it. The idea to charge an automatic gratuity removes all descretion from the customer. In my opinion, any tipping should be voluntary and based on the quality of the service received.

Why should it matter if billed separately? It's still a large group that requires extra help & more work done at one time in the kitchen.

I could agree if the restaurant wanted to add an extra mandatory service charge for large groups. But, it is wrong to call it a gratuity. By definition, a gratuity is voluntary.

Really? That's actually a problem?

Anybody that pays that for soured A$$ wine have never earned wage working

Yeah, but he provided 300 people with a good living way above "working wage"--also, thats why you taste the wine -its not whether you like the taste or not, what maters is that it has not "turned"--had to return an expensive bottle of wine because air had leaked past the cork and the wine had "turned"

I am confused here.

Many posters here telling us what we should tip servers, but restaurants telling us what we should tip is wrong.

Gratuities are voluntary, but somehow virtue signaling about what is appropriate is ok.

It shouldn't be all that confusing, given that everyone is simply giving their 'opinions'...as to how they view tipping.

No one is forcing anyone else to do anything and it is still our own individual choice, whether to tip or not...and how little or how much.

However, what's not an 'opinion,' is the math percentage mistake made on the receipt...by the restaurant the OP described.

That it is a mistake, is simply... a fact.

And in spite of some opinions in our country these days to the contrary, I personally believe that while everyone is entitled to their opinion(s)...facts are still facts.:ho:

The 'Suggested gratuity" at the restaurant the op referred to is an opinion as well, no one is being forced to pay it. They are just sharing their "opinion" with you. Whether the restaurant's suggestion or "opinion" is based on the bill pre tax or not does not make it a fact. It is still just an "opinion" that cannot be forced by law, same as the "opinion" of posters telling us what they think is the correct tip.

I'm going to have to bring up those pesky 'facts' again.

Please go back and read the OP's post again.

If the restaurant had avoided putting a % in front of the dollar amounts and instead did something like....poor service=$1.00, fair service=$2.00, good service=$3.00, etc., etc....then THAT would be an opinion.

However, once they tried to equate a completely inaccurate dollar amount next to the percentages it's no longer an 'opinion'...it's trying to be passed off as a fact. :ho:

Whether it was on purpose to increase the gratuity, or someone was really bad at math and made an honest mistake, is at this point (without additional information)...an opinion.

See the difference?

See the difference?

Nope sorry, it is a fact that the restaurant suggested a gratuity based on bill plus tax. Its also a fact that some here suggest tips should be the same for glass of wine or glass of water. Since neither suggestion is enforced by law, they remain opinions.

Whether you think either suggestion is wrong or right does not change the facts.

Not difficult to understand.