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rubicon 02-04-2017 06:22 AM

Economics 101 supply and demand elasticity thereof.

My first Celebrity cruise was pure pleasure and memorable in every detail.

My second while not a hitch still resulted in buyers remorse.

Eating out to treat oneself. So choose wisely. However, I do not think so much of myself that I should be treated too often. Its flawed I know but honestly I would not do well as a multi-millionaire. Its not about the money, its one's basic belief

An egg and olive sandwich and a good book is so satisifying

ttown 02-04-2017 06:59 AM

High end
 
The Villages has had high end restaurants. At various times in the past OB, Hacienda and Katie Belles tried high end. None were able to succeed.

Cedwards38 02-04-2017 08:20 AM

Low demand.

graciegirl 02-04-2017 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 1355778)
economics 101 supply and demand elasticity thereof.

My first celebrity cruise was pure pleasure and memorable in every detail.

My second while not a hitch still resulted in buyers remorse.

Eating out to treat oneself. So choose wisely. However, i do not think so much of myself that i should be treated too often. Its flawed i know but honestly i would not do well as a multi-millionaire. Its not about the money, its one's basic belief

an egg and olive sandwich and a good book is so satisfying


Where is the like button?

graciegirl 02-04-2017 08:26 AM

Chatbrat.
 
For a simple meal, a wonderful salad (with house dressing, a sweet poppy seed) A perfect crepe, good sausage and perfectly prepared eggs, go to the new Bob Evans near you. You may not try it because they don't serve alcohol, but the breakfast is so good sometimes for dinner. Also try the bean soup and half a roast beef sandwich. This is simple farmland cooking from Ohio. OH...and the pie. Wonderful cakebreads too.

DonH57 02-04-2017 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1355453)
Now we're talkin'.

My first sojourn to fine dining as a child.

YES.

Miss White Castle for sure. I hate getting them frozen at Publix. Really miss Skyline Chili!:thumbup:

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 02-04-2017 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1355369)
Why are there no Bugatti Veyron dealers, or certified service shops, near The Villages?

Why should I have to take mine to Miami to be serviced?

The real question is why is there no Lexus dealer and service center here. I see thousands of Lexus' here.

justjim 02-04-2017 10:08 AM

Ham & beans
 
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Originally Posted by kcrazorbackfan (Post 1354561)
Wow! What is up with some of you people? Food is food. I can eat a McDonald's burger and I'll bet you anything it will turn into crap and flush down a toilet just like a $10.50 burger or a $50 steak.

I like food, but damn, food is food. Fine dining is salmon patties, fried potatoes, collard greens, purple hull peas, cornbread and iced tea; I need to invite some of y'all over for "fine dining southern style".

I like your meal and there are lots of good southern "fine dining". Ham & beans, fried potatoes, Polk, fried corn bread and ice tea. For dessert, fried apricot pie. Don't get any finer!

Chatbrat 02-04-2017 02:11 PM

MB of Gainesville does it right-come to your house with a loner takes your car & returns it when service is done--closed on our last two cars in our house, salesperson delivered the car to our house- really hate sitting around a dealer while they do their paperwork nonsense.

Henryk 02-04-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1355846)
Miss White Castle for sure. I hate getting them frozen at Publix. Really miss Skyline Chili!:thumbup:

Who is Miss White Castle?

Chatbrat 02-04-2017 03:36 PM

Lexus =Toyota with bling

asianthree 02-04-2017 05:14 PM

We do enjoy a restaurant that has good quality food, not out of a box or frozen. We rarely order wine out the mark up to drink inexpensive wine just isn't worth it.

We do frequent the culinary school that has very good multi course meals paired with wine or crafted cocktail's. We know the director and head chef, and enjoy watching the group of young chefs crafting their skills. Once a month we have her come to our home, teaching skills, and preparing about four dinners for the week. It's remarkable food and a learning experience that we use often. Processed fast food is just not right for us, we grow most of our veggies in containers, and our meat comes from a small farm that we have raised, and butchered.

So I guess there are some that would think we are food snobs, because of what we choose to put on our table.

Polar Bear 02-04-2017 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1356041)
...So I guess there are some that would think we are food snobs, because of what we choose to put on our table.

I wouldn't...as long as you don't judge others because they eat differently. :)

golfing eagles 02-04-2017 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1356007)
Who is Miss White Castle?

Cinderella's 3rd grade teacher:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

SALYBOW 02-04-2017 06:45 PM

No High End Restaurants
 
I guess there might be a need for one or two high end restaurants but for most people who go out to dinner 3-5 times a week do not want to pay 50+ per night, There is a far cry more call for reasonably prices restaurants. Look at the new Bob Evans. It is crowded constantly. I just went to Polly Pantry today and it was packed even at 2:30. I venture to say that a high end restaurant would not have been so crowded.
We might go to a high end restaurant once or twice a year, but probably not too much more. Just because a restaurant is not low end dose not means it will not have some very tasty food. My hubby and I have been getting the Veal Parmigiana at Mezza Luna in Colony and we love it. It comes with good soup, or a marginally good salad, cappelinni, or garlic mashed potatoes and bread. :bigbow:

pooh 02-04-2017 08:39 PM

High end restaurants also have high end expenses....and without the possibility of restaurants being filled with customers each night, why would they even consider locating in an area where the customer base lives in a retirement community. Exceptional beef costs, local, table farm to table veggies are a bit more expensive than ones from Publix or Winn Dixie, staff, enough for the entire restaurant during all hours open, sous chef, executive chef, managers, bartenders, all cost and if there are insufficient customers to cover these expenses and make a profit for the company, why come to the area.

Wait and see...if and when a Costco and/or Trader Joe's establishes their presence in the area, a higher end restaurant will arrive. As others have mentioned, how often might individuals want to spend hundreds of dollars to eat out one, two, three times a week.

asianthree 02-04-2017 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1356056)
I wouldn't...as long as you don't judge others because they eat differently. :)

i know it's hard to eat processed free food, it takes planning, just like keeping a kosher kitchen, it's about how you were raised. Never mentioned judging people, your words not mine, my post was just how we prepare our food and enjoy a good meal.

kcrazorbackfan 02-04-2017 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1355891)
I like your meal and there are lots of good southern "fine dining". Ham & beans, fried potatoes, Polk, fried corn bread and ice tea. For dessert, fried apricot pie. Don't get any finer!

:agree: :icon_hungry: Now you're talking; good ole southern food!!

Polar Bear 02-04-2017 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1356146)
...Never mentioned judging people, your words not mine, my post was just how we prepare our food and enjoy a good meal.

And I never attributed my words to you.

It was simply my observation related to what could easily have been interpreted as a rather condescending post.

graciegirl 02-04-2017 11:25 PM

My favorite go to comfort food. Salmon patties. (Grew up far from where fresh salmon was caught)

1 can red or pink salmon drained.
1 generous tablespoon finely minced onion
1 egg beaten
1/2 sleeve Ritz cracker smushed.

Mix with hands and make into patties. (Makes three nice sized ones)

Fry in thin amount of Wesson oil. About five minutes each side.

Must serve with Ketchup.

We always ate with Peas and Mashed potatoes.

The three of us love this meal.

asianthree 02-05-2017 03:32 AM

[QUOTE=Polar Bear;1356170]And I never attributed my words to you.

It was simply my observation related to what could easily have been interpreted as a rather condescending post.[/QUOTE



I guess trying keep a healthy and kosher lifestyle can be condescending, to some, and apologize for upsetting so many about how we raise and prepare food. Ya know like growing our own veggies, and not getting our meat from a grocery. Having someone teach us to prepare food, that keeps with our beliefs.
A PM I have received asked me not so politely to consider dropping out of this site. Thank you for pointing out my improprieties, if it would have not been for you I would not have realized how much I offend people. I am done.

ColdNoMore 02-05-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1356180)
I guess trying keep a healthy and kosher lifestyle can be condescending, to some, and apologize for upsetting so many about how we raise and prepare food. Ya know like growing our own veggies, and not getting our meat from a grocery. Having someone teach us to prepare food, that keeps with our beliefs.
A PM I have received asked me not so politely to consider dropping out of this site. Thank you for pointing out my improprieties, if it would have not been for you I would not have realized how much I offend people. I am done.

Please don't leave, you're just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else and if someone can't handle them...that's their problem. :mad:

Don't let the bullies win. :ho:

Polar Bear 02-05-2017 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1356210)
Please don't leave, you're just as entitled to your opinion as anyone else and if someone can't handle them...that's their problem. :mad:

Don't let the bullies win. :ho:

Gotta agree with CNM on this one...which I don't do all that often. ;)

NYGUY 02-05-2017 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1356333)
Gotta agree with CNM on this one...

I also agree, please stay....your opinion is important!!

Henryk 02-05-2017 03:27 PM

[QUOTE=asianthree;1356180]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1356170)
And I never attributed my words to you.

It was simply my observation related to what could easily have been interpreted as a rather condescending post.[/QUOTE



I guess trying keep a healthy and kosher lifestyle can be condescending, to some, and apologize for upsetting so many about how we raise and prepare food. Ya know like growing our own veggies, and not getting our meat from a grocery. Having someone teach us to prepare food, that keeps with our beliefs.
A PM I have received asked me not so politely to consider dropping out of this site. Thank you for pointing out my improprieties, if it would have not been for you I would not have realized how much I offend people. I am done.

I have read, but cannot figure out, who was so offended, nor why, for that matter. What improprieties?? What offenses??

Please. Don't go. There are a very few vulgar folks here. Ignore them.

Nucky 02-05-2017 03:32 PM

A damned shame. I hope Asianthree will reconsider and come back to us.

600th Photo Sq 02-05-2017 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1354965)
You are correct. The Rose Plantation is a new high end restaurant in Fruitland Park that is getting rave reviews, and is so busy you have to get dinner reservations way in advance.

I am surprised> I got in touch with the owner via Email concerning there very limited Wine list. In particular Sauvignon Blanc ( New Zealand ) they sell it by the glass $8.00 ..Kim Crawford but not the bottle..A total rip off.

The menu is limited and close @8:00pm..I'll give them a pass and go to Bonefish, Hemingway, Lopez..

Looking @the Rose Plantation menu..not impressed.

Skip 02-05-2017 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Love2Swim (Post 1354965)
You are correct. The Rose Plantation is a new high end restaurant in Fruitland Park that is getting rave reviews, and is so busy you have to get dinner reservations way in advance.

Way in advance?
They only take reservations for this week and next week.
Can't reserve for your birthday dinner next month.
Either they have a very small reservation book or they think they might not be around long.
Don't know what that's all about.

Skip

SALYBOW 02-06-2017 03:15 AM

Amen!

SALYBOW 02-06-2017 03:17 AM

What is the recipe for an Olive sandwich? Sounds delicious!

SALYBOW 02-06-2017 03:21 AM

What I miss
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Henryk (Post 1356007)
Who is Miss White Castle?

I too miss White Castle, I miss Frischs' Big Boy also, but am happy I can get the Tartar sauce taste at Burger Station in the Shell station in Colony. Yummy. Most of all though, I miss SKYLINE so I am with you there.:mmmm::mmmm::mmmm:

IndianaJones 02-06-2017 08:44 AM

It's 35-40 minutes to Mark's Prime Steakhouse in Ocala - there are high-end restaurants all around TV. If you're on the south end, it's not that far to Winter Park, Winter Garden - even Mt. Dora has a couple of decent places. If you want a "dining experience", you can find it (and pay for it). I taught business for years, and of course, the restaurant business is one of the toughest out there - everyone so far is correct, TV's populace won't support a Ruth Chris or Morton's on a year-round basis. It's like putting another pizza joint in a college town - the fall, winter & spring are great, but the summers are murder for them, including the difficulty in getting & keeping good help! There IS life "outside the bubble" - go explore!

Sandtrap328 02-07-2017 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by IndianaJones (Post 1356725)
It's 35-40 minutes to Mark's Prime Steakhouse in Ocala - there are high-end restaurants all around TV. If you're on the south end, it's not that far to Winter Park, Winter Garden - even Mt. Dora has a couple of decent places. If you want a "dining experience", you can find it (and pay for it). I taught business for years, and of course, the restaurant business is one of the toughest out there - everyone so far is correct, TV's populace won't support a Ruth Chris or Morton's on a year-round basis. It's like putting another pizza joint in a college town - the fall, winter & spring are great, but the summers are murder for them, including the difficulty in getting & keeping good help! There IS life "outside the bubble" - go explore!


Excellent post!

Orlando has some really fine restaurants. A great time to try them is September during their Magical Dining Month. A special 3 course meal at over 100 restaurants for $35.

The Capitol Grill, Roy's, Eddie V's, Emeril's, and others are among the fine dining experiences you can enjoy.

Bonny 02-07-2017 10:10 AM

I always wonder why some people have to brag about money.
What's nice is we can all spend money on things that are important to us.
We love to travel so that's where we like to spend our money. We can't eat big meals like we used to so sometimes we're good with appetizers. If I get a meal, it always ends up coming home with me.
I have had many expensive wines. I actually like some of the less expensive wines. I'm a Napa Valley kind of girl. :D

jclrxman 02-07-2017 10:13 AM

I agree.Build them and they will come

mrsanborn 02-07-2017 11:20 AM

If a high end restaurant does come to The Villages, will service dogs be required to wear ties?

lanabanana73 02-07-2017 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 1356041)
We do enjoy a restaurant that has good quality food, not out of a box or frozen. We rarely order wine out the mark up to drink inexpensive wine just isn't worth it.

We do frequent the culinary school that has very good multi course meals paired with wine or crafted cocktail's. We know the director and head chef, and enjoy watching the group of young chefs crafting their skills. Once a month we have her come to our home, teaching skills, and preparing about four dinners for the week. It's remarkable food and a learning experience that we use often. Processed fast food is just not right for us, we grow most of our veggies in containers, and our meat comes from a small farm that we have raised, and butchered.

So I guess there are some that would think we are food snobs, because of what we choose to put on our table.

Where is there a culinary school? That sounds fabulous!

biker1 02-07-2017 06:39 PM

It is often true that those who brag about money don't really have much. Those who don't say much generally do. It is a matter of how you were raised.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonny (Post 1357229)
I always wonder why some people have to brag about money.
What's nice is we can all spend money on things that are important to us.
We love to travel so that's where we like to spend our money. We can't eat big meals like we used to so sometimes we're good with appetizers. If I get a meal, it always ends up coming home with me.
I have had many expensive wines. I actually like some of the less expensive wines. I'm a Napa Valley kind of girl. :D


Hummintwo 02-07-2017 11:12 PM

Well hear ye, hear ye, what about the hard work dedicated, loyal employee that never earned more than $50,000 a year in earnings, has a spouse, children they raised themselves, were supportive and helpful friends to their neighbors, may or may not have a church affiliation but a good American that contributed much in their lives and would love to enjoy the Villages lifestyle and not worry that occasional eating out will cost them a months pension. For those who can, go ahead spend the bucks just don't expect to shut out the rest of residents because they can't and won't. I now step down off my soapbox. Just having too much fun reading the really hilarious responses. I wish I said at least half of them.

Love2Swim 02-08-2017 08:01 AM

After reading a lot of these posts, it is clear that a lot of Villagers feel threatened if someone voices an opinion that is in some way critical of The Villages, in this case that there isn't much fine dining here. That is okay. You may not realize it, but The Villages is not perfect. But live in your dream world. People who do appreciate fine dining will find it in other places, like Ocala, Orlando, Mt. Dora, and the like. As a Villages resident, I just wish I didn't have to drive so far.


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