[Ginsanders]

What about Cincinnati Reds? Ate they going to be Cincinnati Skylines? If you are from there, you will get it! Keep the Reds!!

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by Topspinmo

How do they feel about “cowboy’s or patriot’s?

From Webster....A cowboy: a man, typically one on horseback, who herds and tends cattle, especially in the western US.
A patriot: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

Neither of those names represents a race of a person. Using a slang term (yes Indian is a slang term) to name a sports team, and then use a stupid image to display that slang term time has come and gone. Would you be good with the Florida "Whities"or New Jersey Jews or better yet Connecticut Hymies????

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

I personally know 100's of Native Americans.....some are relatives of mine. They are very happy the name is going away!!

Well here is a little more of a scientific sampling. From a Native American news site and the Washington Post:

Two major studies show that while activists are busy suing teams, many Indians take no offense. A survey of Indians conducted in 2002 for Sports Illustrated found that 81 percent don't think high school or college teams should drop Indian nicknames. Asked about the Redskins, 75 percent said the name doesn't offend them. Last year, the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Election Survey found that 90 percent of Indians did not consider "Redskins" offensive."
Column: Indians don't care about Indian mascots

Nine in 10 Native Americans say they are not offended by the Washington Redskins name, according to a new Washington Post poll that shows how few ordinary Indians have been persuaded by a national movement to change the football team’s moniker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f9a_story.html

But as the virtual signaling is now at warp speed, I am sure it has its desired effect into instilling the sense of victimhood in younger Native Americans.

It is a shame because the one ethnicity that most people brag about who can is Native American. I am 3%. I wish it was much more.

[davem4616]

ssssshhhhh....this thread needs to be closed before Winn-Dixie is mentioned as an offensive word

oops!

[ithos]

Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager

From Webster....A cowboy: a man, typically one on horseback, who herds and tends cattle, especially in the western US.
A patriot: a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors.

Neither of those names represents a race of a person. Using a slang term (yes Indian is a slang term) to name a sports team, and then use a stupid image to display that slang term time has come and gone. Would you be good with the Florida "Whities"or New Jersey Jews or better yet Connecticut Hymies????

What about the Minnesota Vikings? Should people from Norway, Sweden and Denmark be offended?

[Notsocrates]

Originally Posted by JohnN

Alas, poor Cleveland Indians, I knew them well.
I understand the world is changing. Still, it makes me nostalgic.

Here's the logo (since I'm having trouble posting it!)

https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf1.myportfo...599bac81bacc57

May be a Guardian
But still looks like an Indian

[irishwonone]

New name sux. Could have been Lakers or Brewers (Milwaukee beat them) after old Carling Black Label plant by old stadium. We can’t even honor American Indians any longer. Talk about discrimination!!

[Rich42]

Funny, first glance the logo reminds me of an……….Indian! What were they thinking?

[nick demis]

Originally Posted by JohnN

Alas, poor Cleveland Indians, I knew them well.
I understand the world is changing. Still, it makes me nostalgic.

Here's the logo (since I'm having trouble posting it!)

https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf1.myportfo...599bac81bacc57

They should have changed it to Cleveland Social Justice Guardians.

[Vermilion Villager]

Originally Posted by ithos

Well here is a little more of a scientific sampling. From a Native American news site and the Washington Post:

Two major studies show that while activists are busy suing teams, many Indians take no offense. A survey of Indians conducted in 2002 for Sports Illustrated found that 81 percent don't think high school or college teams should drop Indian nicknames. Asked about the Redskins, 75 percent said the name doesn't offend them. Last year, the University of Pennsylvania's Annenberg Election Survey found that 90 percent of Indians did not consider "Redskins" offensive."
Column: Indians don't care about Indian mascots


Nine in 10 Native Americans say they are not offended by the Washington Redskins name, according to a new Washington Post poll that shows how few ordinary Indians have been persuaded by a national movement to change the football team’s moniker.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...f9a_story.html

But as the virtual signaling is now at warp speed, I am sure it has its desired effect into instilling the sense of victimhood in younger Native Americans.

It is a shame because the one ethnicity that most people brag about who can is Native American. I am 3%. I wish it was much more.

That's you "scientific" sampling????

Ahhhh.....you do realize some of those articles are 20 years old, and from a source dedicated to Native American casino gambling????

[exohio]

I lived in the Akron Cleveland area for about 50 years, and not once did I ever hear any reference to "Guardians", apparently some statues on the Hope Memorial Bridge.
They will always be "The Tribe" to me!

[Bonnevie]

smh.....unbelievable the majority of attitudes here. I like the Guardians....reminds me of Guardians of the Galaxy. perhaps they were going for that....the next generation of fans

[joseppe]

Originally Posted by JohnN

Alas, poor Cleveland Indians, I knew them well.
I understand the world is changing. Still, it makes me nostalgic.

Here's the logo (since I'm having trouble posting it!)

https://pro2-bar-s3-cdn-cf1.myportfo...599bac81bacc57

One has to wonder how INDIAN motorcycles by Polaris Industries has not been challenged as far as I know.

[larrycrilley@gmail.com]

Originally Posted by Edjkoz

Now that we’ve taken care of the Indians and Braves, can we now look at the New York teams? Since I’m living in the South, many find the term Yankees offensive and a trigger word. And the Giants, well that can certainly be seen as offensive )

As a lifelong Mets fan I have found the term “yankees” very offensive.

[billethkid]

Originally Posted by joseppe

One has to wonder how INDIAN motorcycles by Polaris Industries has not been challenged as far as I know.

Maybe it has been challenged and the patriotic owner with a spine told the to get lost/take a hike!!