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ThirdOfFive 08-04-2024 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2356032)
Sexist censorship? No. Vagina is the proper term for female genitalia. ***** is the proper term for male genitalia. If the proper term for male genitalia is somehow inappropriate, perhaps the moderator would be willing to explain why.
According to this website called "giggeli", there are 800 terms that could be used in place of The Appendage That Shall Not Be Named.

LeRoySmith 08-04-2024 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2356071)
According to this website called "giggeli", there are 800 terms that could be used in place of The Appendage That Shall Not Be Named.
801 since that French dude knocked the bar off the pole vault with his yesterday...

https://youtu.be/nhxw_aMcPCg?si=RGJRaYz-zHhQjgrO

PugMom 08-04-2024 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Normal (Post 2355447)
Imane Khelif was born in a male body…full stop!

Medical enhancements of any kind should automatically disqualify her/him

Whatever is going on psychologically is of no concern.

If I’m wrong, would gills disqualify a swimmer? Would surgically added muscle mass disqualify a weightlifter?
it's true! no amount of surgical 'alterations' changes the fact the person was born a male. these women shouldn't even compete. by entering the ring, they are condoning the decision. a full boycott should be in order

PugMom 08-04-2024 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2355469)
Agreed. Females work their tales off in order to get a college scholarship and than they lose it to something that decides they are really a female in a male body? Insanity
Thank You, so well said :pray:

PugMom 08-04-2024 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2355510)
And you know this to be true how? Based solely on the claims of a Russian organization?



If only biology was that simple, for example.
all you have to do is look @ him. his structure and appearance show male shoulders & waist. then take a good look @ the muscles on this guy, & tell me it's ok to compete with any size woman. it really IS insanity

Bill14564 08-04-2024 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2356196)
all you have to do is look @ him. his structure and appearance show male shoulders & waist. then take a good look @ the muscles on this guy, & tell me it's ok to compete with any size woman. it really IS insanity
So she is not attractive enough to have been born with female genitalia? She is too tall/wide/muscular to have been born with female genitalia? Your trans-dar is accurate enough to determine that countless statements that she was born female, raised female, and has always been female are flat out lies? Or is it more that the presence of female genitalia is irrelevant if one is too tall/wide/muscular/good/successful/unattractive to actually be a woman?

bumpa 08-04-2024 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2355683)
I’m sick of all of this stuff. I heard on several Olympic channels that the IOC identifies all participants by their passport, and “his” said male….
Perhaps the information you "heard" is wrong. Khelif has identified as female since birth, has always competed in the women’s boxing division and is listed as a woman on her passport.

Taltarzac725 08-04-2024 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bumpa (Post 2356233)
Perhaps the information you "heard" is wrong. Khelif has identified as female since birth, has always competed in the women’s boxing division and is listed as a woman on her passport.
She won a medal too recently at the Olympics.

fdpaq0580 08-04-2024 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2356039)
Hooe we get answer
We didn’t. In my post I used the letters sine and p to spell the, apparently, offensive term to see if this was an urban myth. The term was deleted and replaced with 5 *s.
And, no explanation why the term is considered offensive, or what the acceptable reference word would be considered an acceptable substitute. Makes one wonder.

JMintzer 08-04-2024 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2356235)
She won a medal too recently at the Olympics.
The IOC has different standards than the IBF...

fdpaq0580 08-04-2024 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2356205)
So she is not attractive enough to have been born with female genitalia? She is too tall/wide/muscular to have been born with female genitalia? Your trans-dar is accurate enough to determine that countless statements that she was born female, raised female, and has always been female are flat out lies? Or is it more that the presence of female genitalia is irrelevant if one is too tall/wide/muscular/good/successful/unattractive to actually be a woman?
You left out "too smart/intelligent".

blueash 08-04-2024 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by MidWestIA (Post 2355790)
Gets messy cuz Khelif after a gender eligibility test allegedly found she has XY chromosome before

My sister is a delivery room nurse she said some kids and born with male and female genitalia they have had a Dr remove one of them. Maybe that was her deal
Your sister who is a delivery room nurse has no idea what happens to the infant once it leaves the delivery room. Nobody gets genital surgery in the delivery room. Decisions about ambiguous genitalia are made after much discussion and evaluation and the criteria used have changed over time and will continue to change.

If you care to read on the complexities of phenotype vs genotype here is a clear explanation

fdpaq0580 08-04-2024 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PugMom (Post 2356193)
it's true! no amount of surgical 'alterations' changes the fact the person was born a male. these women shouldn't even compete. by entering the ring, they are condoning the decision. a full boycott should be in order
Maybe they think they can win? Many can and have. Maybe they will succede!


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