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Old 10-27-2017, 10:43 AM
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Compared to Humpty Dumpty, Rod McKuen's work is naive...without rhyme and rhythm. It also fails to evoke the deep thinking that Humpty Dumpty demands from the reader. Do you think Rod Mc could explain the poem, "Jabberwocky" with the skill and erudition that Humpty did in Lewis Carroll's "Through the Looking Glass"?

Oh, Rapscallion, to think I thought yesterday to be a "frabjous day" when I could engage in a little silly on TOTV..........

Just for the record, I knew. Even in 1970, I knew Rod McKuen was a button-pusher. Therefore, I really do not have egg on my face. I just have to recognize the need to use emoticons for clarification around here. (sigh)

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I think we have egghausted the list of puns. I guess I am henting that I feel a bit cooped up by this exchange. I wasn't eggspeckting it to go on for so long.
But wait! There's bind to be more. I shell regroup and rethink.
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Oh, Rapscallion, to think I thought yesterday to be a "frabjous day" when I could engage in a little silly on TOTV..........

Just for the record, I knew. Even in 1970, I knew Rod McKuen was a button-pusher. Therefore, I really do not have egg on my face. I just have to recognize the need to use emoticons for clarification around here. (sigh)
Also, for the record...I think I got it. No need for emoticons. You were mocking..in a friendly way...my interest in Jonathan Livingston Seagull...the book, not the character. Point taken. JSL doesn't rank highly among the great metaphorical or allegorical works. To me, it was just a whimsical story that I liked. You are being charitable by calling McKuen a button pusher. I would say he was the lyrical equivalent of a snake oil salesman, seeking and achieving commercial success via pseudo-intellectual musings.

Now, Humpty Dumpty, that is an enigma wrapped in a mystery inside of a dream....sorry, Winston Churchill.
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Also, for the record...I think I got it. No need for emoticons. You were mocking..in a friendly way...my interest in Jonathan Livingston Seagull...the book, not the character. Point taken. JSL doesn't rank highly among the great metaphorical or allegorical works. To me, it was just a whimsical story that I liked. You are being charitable by calling McKuen a button pusher. I would say he was the lyrical equivalent of a snake oil salesman, seeking and achieving commercial success via pseudo-intellectual musings.

Now, Humpty Dumpty, that is an enigma wrapped in a mystery inside of a dream....sorry, Winston Churchill.
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Also, for the record...I think I got it. No need for emoticons. You were mocking..in a friendly way...my interest in Jonathan Livingston Seagull...the book, not the character. Point taken. JSL doesn't rank highly among the great metaphorical or allegorical works. To me, it was just a whimsical story that I liked. You are being charitable by calling McKuen a button pusher. I would say he was the lyrical equivalent of a snake oil salesman, seeking and achieving commercial success via pseudo-intellectual musings.

Now, Humpty Dumpty, that is an enigma wrapped in a mystery inside of a dream....sorry, Winston Churchill.

Thank you, Rap. (May I call you Rap?)

Please forgive me. I do not know what caused me to react in such a way to your McKuen comment. Turns out, we think the same way about him.

I guess I must have been thrown into a state of hyperawareness ......you know, thinking about "slithy toves" and such, on the lookout for "the jaws that bite, the claws that catch!"

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I apologize for needing coddling.
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Thank you, Rap. (May I call you Rap?)

Please forgive me. I do not know what caused me to react in such a way to your McKuen comment. Turns out, we think the same way about him.

I guess I must have been thrown into a state of hyperawareness ......you know, thinking about "slithy toves" and such, on the lookout for "the jaws that bite, the claws that catch!"

Anyway, thanks for the clarification. I apologize for needing coddling.
I always wondered if Lewis Carroll was channeling Jonathan Swift.
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I always wondered if Lewis Carroll was channeling Jonathan Swift.
I loved Gulliver's Travels. Soon I will have to look at that 4th part of Jonathan Livingston Seagull. And I recall it was a very fast read.
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