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Velvet 03-28-2022 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2077468)
So, you think cris didn’t get all the jokes approved before hand? I sure they don’t host go wild with what they want say on stage representing the academy.
Perhaps Will taught a lesson to all of them then. Why didn’t Chris make fun of his own wife? Not only did he make fun of another person’s wife but also an ill person’s sickness.

JMintzer 03-28-2022 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2077404)
The Slow-motion video's are interesting.
Chris hands behind him, leaning in.....waiting for the slap.
Nice Hollywood slap.
I say, fake news.
:clap2::clap2:
No, his hands were behind him when he told the joke, AND afterwards. It's what many do when they don't have a mic to hold...

He leaned in as if to say something to Smith as he approached him...

If it was fake, you have to ask "WHY?" Was it for ratings? Really? Well into the show, closer to the end than the beginning?

Was it for publicity? One of THE most famous actors and one of THE most famous comedians?

JMintzer 03-28-2022 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Topspinmo (Post 2077468)
So, you think cris didn’t get all the jokes approved before hand? I sure they don’t host go wild with what they want say on stage representing the academy.
Exactly! His routine was approved...

Now, Ricky Gervais, at the Golden Globes, otoh... :shocked::1rotfl:

JMintzer 03-28-2022 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2077470)
Perhaps Will taught a lesson to all of them then. Why didn’t Chris make fun of his own wife? Not only did he make fun of another person’s wife but also an ill person’s sickness.
Oh, please... Chris Rock has made fun of his own wife in his act for years...

Part of what comedians at the Oscars do is roast those in the front rows. The Smiths were front and center...

And while Alopecia is indeed an illness, let's not put it on a par with cancer...

Velvet 03-28-2022 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2077486)
Exactly! His routine was approved...

Now, Ricky Gervais, at the Golden Globes, otoh... :shocked::1rotfl:
No, it was not in his routine at rehearsal, it was not on his teleprompter- Honolulu Star Advertiser.

I am sorry for Chris’ wife, what a sick sense of humor…. But Will apologized for his violent reaction. Now HE is a class act, in my opinion.

Taltarzac725 03-28-2022 10:27 PM
Something Simon Scarrow posted on Facebook about the Will Smith-Chris Rock altercation at the Oscars last night.

Simon Scarrow is a British writer of historical novels. Many of these are set in ancient Rome and Britain.

Quote:
(A lot of people here are saying what Smith should have done. I don't disagree that it would have been wise to do something other than strike Rock. But that's not what my comment was about. I was discussing the implications of what actually happened. Coulda, woulda, shoulda is not a helpful response. I am not best pleased by some of the attacks on my values as a result of people twisting my words to suit their values. But relax, I'm not in the mood for issuing a slapping...)
After having a think about this I have to condone Will Smith's actions. I've seen far too many men use the defence of 'just having a joke' when called out on what is effectively bullying. And a man in position of influence using a public stage to attack a woman with health issues is, let's be honest, about as low as it goes. This was not a dialogue in which Chris Rock could be called to account. He was on the stage with the mic and she was in the audience and inaudible.
More widely, I think it's time that people grew up enough to understand that context is as important as principle. Free speech is not a license to bully and demean. It is about using the ability to communicate freely to challenge ideas that deserve to be challenged and to encourage progress. It is a bad thing when the principle is weaponised to simply bully, offend or humiliate others, as was the case here.
Does that mean that Smith should not have reacted with violence? Again, we have to balance context with principle. Violence maybe wrong in principle but in some contexts it is justified. As in Ukraine where a war of conquest is wrong but a war of resistance is certainly not. Smith could have gone up on stage and used his not inconsiderable charisma and intelligence to put Chris Rock in his place. In fact he should have done that. However, he had seen the hurt Rock's crass remarks had caused his wife and I dare say there are few amongst us who would have resisted the impulse to strike back somehow.
Sometimes emotions rule reason. Ideally reason wins out and prevails and is enough to right the wrong. Sometimes raw emotion drives us to act when reason fails. Sometimes that is justifiable. Sometimes not. As a teacher I've seen bullies smack other kids just because they are stronger and have lost an argument. That's unforgivable. But here, Rock was the bully and, frankly, he had it coming to him.

manaboutown 03-28-2022 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2077505)
No, it was not in his routine at rehearsal, it was not on his teleprompter- Honolulu Star Advertiser.

I am sorry for Chris’ wife, what a sick sense of humor…. But Will apologized for his violent reaction. Now HE is a class act, in my opinion.
Faked slap. Just like with the three stooges. No injury. No security intervention. Rock kept jabbering away. They are trained actors. Low class tactic to get attention and advance their careers.

Velvet 03-29-2022 12:27 AM
Tal can articulate it so much better than I can.

DaleDivine 03-29-2022 04:45 AM
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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2076991)
So, you are the one who is going to watch the Academy Awards show?
Not me. I didn't waste my time.
YAWN!!!
:popcorn::popcorn:

Worldseries27 03-29-2022 05:23 AM
Thank you woke culture
 
Now that the media and actors hyping " the slap heard round the world" have had their 15 minutes and have lowered the bars of decency to the floor i now want to see
michael buffer moderate the presidential debates
with slapping permitted.
"let's get ready to rumble"
1st. Topic. Black on black crime.

Doro22 03-29-2022 05:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Joe Mack (Post 2077365)
Personally I'd be more interested in a show that celebrates the plumber or electrician of the year, not one where a bunch of pompous woke wannabes pat themselves on the back for playing make-believe.
Yes, yes, & yes

JMintzer 03-29-2022 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2077505)
No, it was not in his routine at rehearsal, it was not on his teleprompter- Honolulu Star Advertiser.

I am sorry for Chris’ wife, what a sick sense of humor…. But Will apologized for his violent reaction. Now HE is a class act, in my opinion.
Well, I'm sure the Honolulu Observer knows...

A sick sense of humor? How so? By joking about his own wife?

That's been a comedy staple for eons...

"Take my wife, PLEASE!"

- Henny Youngman (back in the stone age)


Oh, and Chris Rock apologized immediately after the episode. He said he didn't know about Jada Pinkett-Smith's "illness"...

Smith, otoh, was seen partying and dancing at an Oscar afterparty, all night long...

He didn't apologize to the victim of his "violent reaction" until the next evening, well after Rock had apologized...

MrFlorida 03-29-2022 06:27 AM
Haven't watched in years, didn't even know it was on.

JMintzer 03-29-2022 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by manaboutown (Post 2077513)
Faked slap. Just like with the three stooges. No injury. No security intervention. Rock kept jabbering away. They are trained actors. Low class tactic to get attention and advance their careers.
So tell me, how can this possibly advance anyone's career?

It's now being reported that the Director of the show, the Head of the Academy and Security immediately huddled to try to figure out what to do...

They panicked and decided not to remove Smith since he was a favorite to win the Oscar for Best Actor...

dewilson58 03-29-2022 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2077586)
It's now being reported ..................
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Stu from NYC 03-29-2022 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Worldseries27 (Post 2077559)
Now that the media and actors hyping " the slap heard round the world" have had their 15 minutes and have lowered the bars of decency to the floor i now want to see
michael buffer moderate the presidential debates
with slapping permitted.
"let's get ready to rumble"
1st. Topic. Black on black crime.
Would love to see an honest discussion on black on black crime. For some reason something so important is ignored.

I know why but it is sad.

Stu from NYC 03-29-2022 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2077586)
So tell me, how can this possibly advance anyone's career?

It's now being reported that the Director of the show, the Head of the Academy and Security immediately huddled to try to figure out what to do...

They panicked and decided not to remove Smith since he was a favorite to win the Oscar for Best Actor...
I kind of believe it was an inside job to get them both publicity. Than an apology over a day later, seriously?

They are both probably laughing about the whole thing.

OhioBuckeye 03-29-2022 09:48 AM
Ohiobuckeye
 
Could you amagine a little kid slapping another little kid what would happen. Then standing & giving Will Smith a standing ovation. Good god! This was uncalled for by Will Smith & Chris Rock probably shouldn’t of joking about Will wife but that’s no reason to B _ _ _ _ slap someone on live TV. Will Smith played Alli. with a slap like that, come on talk about fake acting!

JMintzer 03-29-2022 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2077600)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Yup! Just like "It was reported that Chris Rock ad libbed the joke and that he knew about her "illness" all along...

Taltarzac725 03-29-2022 01:07 PM
I still have not watched last year's Academy Award winner Nomadland nor the year before's Parasite nor Moonlight.

Academy Award for Best Picture - Wikipedia Loved many of the other Best Pictures though.

Spalumbos62 03-29-2022 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by camaguey48 (Post 2077516)
Impressive!!! Four languages, huh? Woo Hoo! Aren't you self-important.

I guess I don't understand your response... are you impressed, I am...kudos to 4 languages...or are you just jealous and sarcastic. Come on buddy...give credit where it's due.

Stu from NYC 03-29-2022 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by montagnard1969 (Post 2077786)
This is a prime example why people do not trust Negros. They assault one another and all is forgiven. If this had been a white man slapping a Negro all hell would have broken loose with more cities being burned, cops and citizens being attacked. When it is one of their own against one of their own on public television, all is forgiven. The hollyweed community has no shame, no class, no brains except for a few and these are the ones who do not attend this narcissistic display of camaraderie. Acting for the most part is dead and has been supplanted by violence with guns, bombs and missiles, sex on screen and special affects. Little talent and even less concern of what they convey to a younger generation who watches their "product".
The responses to this will be interesting for sure.:ohdear:

Worldseries27 03-29-2022 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by taltarzac725 (Post 2077769)
i still have not watched last year's academy award winner nomadland nor the year before's parasite nor moonlight.

academy award for best picture - wikipedia loved many of the other best pictures though.
you are not alone

JMintzer 03-29-2022 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by montagnard1969 (Post 2077786)
This is a prime example why people do not trust Negros. They assault one another and all is forgiven. If this had been a white man slapping a Negro all hell would have broken loose with more cities being burned, cops and citizens being attacked. When it is one of their own against one of their own on public television, all is forgiven. The hollyweed community has no shame, no class, no brains except for a few and these are the ones who do not attend this narcissistic display of camaraderie. Acting for the most part is dead and has been supplanted by violence with guns, bombs and missiles, sex on screen and special affects. Little talent and even less concern of what they convey to a younger generation who watches their "product".
Nice knowin' ya'!

https://y.yarn.co/24ac024d-4e58-4e02...a2c8f_text.gif

camaguey48 03-29-2022 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Spalumbos62 (Post 2077799)
I guess I don't understand your response... are you impressed, I am...kudos to 4 languages...or are you just jealous and sarcastic. Come on buddy...give credit where it's due.
When the credit is due, I'll give it. Mr. self-important may be faking it or may be true, but no one cares. What part of the response didn't you comprehend?

markusmom 03-29-2022 08:55 PM
The Slap
 
I think Chris was out of line but the most IRONIC response to all of this was the Academy saying THEY DON'T CONDONE VIOLENCE! I laughed for a full 15 minutes because the movies they give awards to and sing praises about show so much violence! It's like Hollywood trying to jump on the bandwagon about gun control then cranking out movies showing gun violence.

Stu from NYC 03-29-2022 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by markusmom (Post 2077908)
I think Chris was out of line but the most IRONIC response to all of this was the Academy saying THEY DON'T CONDONE VIOLENCE! I laughed for a full 15 minutes because the movies they give awards to and sing praises about show so much violence! It's like Hollywood trying to jump on the bandwagon about gun control then cranking out movies showing gun violence.
They will make whatever they think will sell, I do not believe anything they say as they do not understand the idea of morality.

camaguey48 03-30-2022 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by markusmom (Post 2077908)
I think Chris was out of line but the most IRONIC response to all of this was the Academy saying THEY DON'T CONDONE VIOLENCE! I laughed for a full 15 minutes because the movies they give awards to and sing praises about show so much violence! It's like Hollywood trying to jump on the bandwagon about gun control then cranking out movies showing gun violence.
The hypocrisy is astounding. Violence sells tickets.

dewilson58 03-30-2022 08:09 AM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Interviewed OJ Simpson.............he thinks "Smith was wrong".

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:

Stu from NYC 03-30-2022 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dewilson58 (Post 2078074)
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Interviewed OJ Simpson.............he thinks "Smith was wrong".

:MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot::MOJE_whot:
He also said should have shot him and deny he did it.

Nucky 03-30-2022 02:59 PM
https://youtu.be/x1hwOG6JzNM He (Willy Boy) was clapping then he was slapping! Only one Splantion! Evil Woman and the LOOK! :1rotfl: Who cares? For real with everything else going on in the world who gives a Hoot? Not me!

Taltarzac725 04-02-2022 07:56 AM
Will Smith resigns from Academy after ‘shocking’ Oscars slap

That will not help his career in the least. One stupid moment of acting on anger due to seeing emotional pain inflicted on his wife.

Stu from NYC 04-02-2022 08:15 AM
Read recently that Pfizer is making a drug to help people who have Will Smith's wife's condition.

Further Pfizer was a sponsor of the academy awards.

Does this make anyone suspicious of the whole thing?

Tvflguy 04-02-2022 08:32 AM
Must say, it still appears to be a Hollywood ‘fake’ hit to me. Would love to see a slo mo side view. They are both trained actors. One would think that after a REAL hard slap Chris would have rubbed his face or such. Every replay I have seen appears to be a fake hit and response.

JMintzer 04-02-2022 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2079264)
Must say, it still appears to be a Hollywood ‘fake’ hit to me. Would love to see a slo mo side view. They are both trained actors. One would think that after a REAL hard slap Chris would have rubbed his face or such. Every replay I have seen appears to be a fake hit and response.
Chris Rock is not a "trained actor"... Yes, he's been in a few movies, but training? Not a chance...

And he did rub his face...

Taltarzac725 04-02-2022 11:06 AM
Alopecia areata - Wikipedia

Nothing looks orchestrated in this altercation. It was just a thoughtless joke put out by an often raunchy comic which got a husband angry about the pain caused his wife.


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