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2catsmeow 08-15-2012 05:16 PM

For what it is worth - 2016 is not playing in Leesburg, Belleview or Crystal River either (that is all I checked - I would bet I could find other areas if I was so inclined) - and I wouldn't say it is 'Banned' from playing in any of those locations. I still think it has to do the the agreement with the distributor. The theater that it IS playing at in Ocala is very nice - not too long of a drive - and then you can stop for a nice dinner after (or lunch before) - and make a pleasant day of it. Not all theaters show all movies. We are also not getting Expendables 2 which I would like to see - it is a Lionsgate film - but I will either wait until it is on cable or red box - or drive to Ocala.

Skybo 08-15-2012 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 2catsmeow (Post 541198)
For what it is worth - 2016 is not playing in Leesburg, Belleview or Crystal River either (that is all I checked - I would bet I could find other areas if I was so inclined) - and I wouldn't say it is 'Banned' from playing in any of those locations. I still think it has to do the the agreement with the distributor. The theater that it IS playing at in Ocala is very nice - not too long of a drive - and then you can stop for a nice dinner after (or lunch before) - and make a pleasant day of it. Not all theaters show all movies. We are also not getting Expendables 2 which I would like to see - it is a Lionsgate film - but I will either wait until it is on cable or red box - or drive to Ocala.

Hush Catsmeow....you must not inject logic into this discussion. Even though numerous folks have explained the concept of distributor contracts throughout this thread ... that doesn’t matter. It must, must, must be some kind conspiracy theory that has to be resolved via berating a theater “manager” who has absolutely no control over what is played in his theater.

gerryann 08-15-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 541209)
Hush Catsmeow....you must not inject logic into this discussion. Even though numerous folks have explained the concept of distributor contracts throughout this thread ... that doesn’t matter. It must, must, must be some kind conspiracy theory that has to be resolved via berating a theater “manager” who has absolutely no control over what is played in his theater.

So true!! I guess some folks feel they need to blame someone.

BarryRX 08-15-2012 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 541122)
I'm sure the manager tonight will be about 20 yrs old (ha) and no accusations were made. Only suggestions made that ALL moves be shown in the villages as we are all adults and can pay and not pay for what we choose to see.
that's the great thing about America!! choices to be made!! Bring in ALL the movies and the box office receipts should determine what stays and goes.
off to square now.

Sorry, but you did state that the movie was banned in The Villages. That was an over the top statement that has no basis in reality. The movie theaters are already ballot boxes where box office receipts determine what stays or goes. But what gets on the ballot must be limited. That decision is made both contractually with the distributors, and by the owners who are always trying to maximize profits. If any of those decisions conflict with your personal wishes, you have the right to go elsewhere or to voice your displeasure as you have done on TOTV. However, baseless accusations are most definitely not the way to get your point across and will only result in a whole bunch of folks pointing that out to you.

ijusluvit 08-15-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 541154)
By that logic, all the stores that people want should have to locate in TV and all activities people here want should have to be provided. Afterall, "that's the great thing about Americal!! choices can be made!!"

I suspect that more than 100 people have requested indoor pools and performing arts center in the annual surveys. How dare TV not make them available right here in America, even though people want those choices.

Oh wait, America has free enterprise too. :oops: So a hundred of us can't just demand that a business proprietor contract with distributors as necessary to give us all the choices we want. :rant-rave: And if said business proprietor has negotiated an affordable deal with other distributors by agreeing to show all of their movies, or has negotiated other affordable (to him) terms we don't like, we can't demand that said entrepreneur break his contract and possibly his profit margin because one group organized a phone bank to demand other choices at his expense. :rant-rave:

Darn, don't you just hate it when freedom cuts both ways.

Insightful. Damn near profound.
No wonder this poster is listed as a Sage!

gomoho 08-15-2012 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 541209)
Hush Catsmeow....you must not inject logic into this discussion. Even though numerous folks have explained the concept of distributor contracts throughout this thread ... that doesn’t matter. It must, must, must be some kind conspiracy theory that has to be resolved via berating a theater “manager” who has absolutely no control over what is played in his theater.

Lighten up - no one knows the true reason the movie isn't being shown. Until we know no accusations should be made either way.

2catsmeow 08-15-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Skybo (Post 541209)
Hush Catsmeow....you must not inject logic into this discussion. Even though numerous folks have explained the concept of distributor contracts throughout this thread ... that doesn’t matter. It must, must, must be some kind conspiracy theory that has to be resolved via berating a theater “manager” who has absolutely no control over what is played in his theater.

I took this as I hope it was intended, and had a chuckle :laugh:

justjim 08-15-2012 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 540863)
it is too much of a coincidence that what is popular ex 2016, The hunger games, and I'm sure others can think of more movies have NOT been shown while 2, 3 movie theaters carry batman or for ex marigold forever!! Don't you think?? I do know for a fact HUNDREDS have called and requested the movie so why NOT play it. I head Ted is so bad many have walked out on it?? Let's see what others have to say about the topic. My point is just do NOT keep out of a retirement community adult movies we can decide for ourselves whether to see or not. Atlas shrugges is another to be released in Oct and will be a block buster. Will that be shown???

:rant-rave: Really, Hundreds have called requesting this movie! Wow!

No such movie in TV. Drive to Orlando, catch an early plane for $398.00 round trip to Chicago, take a taxi to catch the movie matinee near O'Hare International, return by taxi to O'Hare, get a quick bite in one of the many restaurants, and catch your return flight to Orlando. Depending which way the wind is blowing you may get a quick peek at one of the most beautiful skyline's in the world. Pay the parking and return to TV. You can do all of this in less than 12 hours and for just $497.00. PRICELESS! :beer3:

Bogie Shooter 08-15-2012 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by NotGolfer (Post 541181)
I too am a conservative....that being said...Up North we knew a family who ran a movie theater in our community. It was a 4-plex. They didn't have a "say" in what movies came or not. The movie companies make those decisions from what we were told.

Not sure what being a conservative has to do with which movies come to town.

Bogie Shooter 08-15-2012 07:41 PM

We should hear tomorrow about the meeting with the manager.....................

buzzy 08-15-2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 541297)
We should hear tomorrow about the meeting with the manager.....................

You mean on the six o'clock news??????

784caroline 08-15-2012 08:39 PM

A "true" conservative would get the movie at REDBOX and only pay $1....free popcorn at home!!

Dr Winston O Boogie jr 08-15-2012 09:08 PM

Saying that the Villages is "banning" this, or any movie because they choose to show other movies is like saying that they are "banning" Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream because they don't have a store here or that Publix is 'banning" Bird Eye because they choose to carry other lines.

If it's not showing here, find out where it's showing and go there. If the Villages Theaters don't show it, they won't get your business.

I'm sure that this is simply a business decision. There are a number of movies that they have to choose from. They are either tied to a contract which requires them to show some movies or the distributor doesn't carry this particular or they are choosing to show other movies because they think that they will attract a larger audience.

Skybo 08-15-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 2catsmeow (Post 541253)
I took this as I hope it was intended, and had a chuckle :laugh:

You took it correctly. :)

createquilts 08-15-2012 10:16 PM

I was thinking after reading this whole thread that maybe the solution would be to open a movie theater close to the villages. There have to be a bunch of people that know how to open businesses in this population, and some people willing to invest.

With all of these people close by in the villages and surrounding developments and towns I would think it might be a good investment. I am not a business person and maybe some people will tell me I don't know what I am talking about but it seems to me that if you build it, they will come if there is truly a need.
I have no desire to see this movie but if the selection is as abysmal as some people think it makes sense a better selection of movies would be profitable. We went to see Bourne Legacy today, in the middle of a beautiful day (house still being shown) and the theaters were well attended.

Although we are looking forward to moving to TV I don't expect it to fullfill my every wish, desire and whim. I expect there will be many people far more conservative than I am and many people far more religious, but the world would be boring if we were all the same.

Also, since there is no indoor pool and people want it has anyone thought about trying to attract a YMCA closeby? Or another private facility like golds gym closeby? Not everything has to be within TV limits.

Schaumburger 08-15-2012 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 541285)
:rant-rave: Really, Hundreds have called requesting this movie! Wow!

No such movie in TV. Drive to Orlando, catch an early plane for $398.00 round trip to Chicago, take a taxi to catch the movie matinee near O'Hare International, return by taxi to O'Hare, get a quick bite in one of the many restaurants, and catch your return flight to Orlando. Depending which way the wind is blowing you may get a quick peek at one of the most beautiful skyline's in the world. Pay the parking and return to TV. You can do all of this in less than 12 hours and for just $497.00. PRICELESS! :beer3:

I'm only about 14 miles from O'Hare -- I can be your dinner and movie companion. And there is now a casino near O'Hare; we can play the slots after the movie! If I win big at the slot machine I can buy a house in TV right away. :)

Bogie Shooter 08-16-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hulababy (Post 541122)
I'm sure the manager tonight will be about 20 yrs old (ha) and no accusations were made. Only suggestions made that ALL moves be shown in the villages as we are all adults and can pay and not pay for what we choose to see.
that's the great thing about America!! choices to be made!! Bring in ALL the movies and the box office receipts should determine what stays and goes.
off to square now.

So, what did you find out???

rp001 08-16-2012 01:46 PM

no profit
 
I really doubt the decision was political...Purely money..After all there was a great movie shown by a club last week called "The Koch Brothers Exposed"... I doubt that will be shown at the theaters either...No money or interest in it here..Was a great movie though.

NotGolfer 08-16-2012 06:01 PM

Have any of the folks that think there might be a conspiracy heard "Shown in selected theators"? It's the distributors that make the decisions...they look for where the biggest audiences might be as they're in the business to make money. There have been movies I'd have loved to have seen but they didn't make it to our market here---and even in our area up north.

Speak to the managers, they may tell you the same things you've been reading on this link.

mgjim 08-16-2012 07:33 PM

Re: Banning Movies in TV?
 
I think if you go to this movie's website, 2016: Obama's America | Official Movie Site you'll find that the film is being shown in a very limited number of theaters nationwide and for a short run in each of those theaters. That's not unusual for a documentary.

gerryann 08-16-2012 08:02 PM

I don't really know why anyone would think that this movie would be a top priority for ANY theater. I haden't looked at what movie was being discussed until now...what a bunch of wasted space. Doesn't matter who it's about. It's a documentary with a VERY limited audience.

graciegirl 08-16-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 541941)
I don't really know why anyone would think that this movie would be a top priority for ANY theater. I haden't looked at what movie was being discussed until now...what a bunch of wasted space. Doesn't matter who it's about. It's a documentary with a VERY limited audience.

I agree with you once more Gerryann.
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A movie theater is a place for ENTERTAINMENT, not enlightenment, or study or education.

gerryann 08-16-2012 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 541946)
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A movie theater is a place for ENTERTAINMENT, not enlightenment, or study or education.

I really didn't mean that it wouldn't be a good documentary, or wouldn't be enlightening, or wouldnt be a good movie for educating. I just meant that it isn't going to be a blockbuster that most theaters would pick up the first week of release. I'm sure it will have its place for those that are looking for that form of "entertainment".

graciegirl 08-16-2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by gerryann (Post 541963)
I really didn't mean that it wouldn't be a good documentary, or wouldn't be enlightening, or wouldnt be a good movie for educating. I just meant that it isn't going to be a blockbuster that most theaters would pick up the first week of release. I'm sure it will have its place for those that are looking for that form of "entertainment".


I forgot the I agree part. I was agreeing with you.

Sometimes movies do make us change our political views, but we don't go to the movie theater usually to find political documentaries.

justjim 08-16-2012 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Schaumburger (Post 541420)
I'm only about 14 miles from O'Hare -- I can be your dinner and movie companion. And there is now a casino near O'Hare; we can play the slots after the movie! If I win big at the slot machine I can buy a house in TV right away. :)

:beer3: I assume you live in Schaumburg which is close to O'Hare. Hey, that's a pretty nice burg to live in! If you depend on your slot winnings to buy you a house in TV, a new snowblower might be a good idea while they are on sale this summer.

Schaumburger did you ever read so much to do about a documentary movie that may not be shown in TV? I guess I'm just not one to get that :shrug: excited about any movie ----especially a documentary.

I wonder if the manager of the Rialto has run away from home yet? I'm still waiting to hear what he had to say!

Bogie Shooter 08-16-2012 09:24 PM

still waiting to hear the results of that meeting with that young manager.....OP how did it go??

PPreu 08-16-2012 11:01 PM

Conspiracy Theorists Abound
 
Well this has certainly turned embarassing. A little red-faced are we? Or is the crimson from anger at not being able to unearth the conspiracy that has befallen us weak minded folk?

Much ado about nothing.

My doctor says in order to keep my blood pressue under control, I should disavow any knowledge of conspiracies, even though, as my rabbit friend Harvey once told me, "They're out to get me ya know."

The Sky Is Falling.

I really do prefer to spend my time worrying about the health of my friends and family, rather than wasting it on the rants and raves of the verbal minority.

My name is Paul, and I approve this message!

graciegirl 08-16-2012 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by PPreu (Post 542037)
Well this has certainly turned embarassing. A little red-faced are we? Or is the crimson from anger at not being able to unearth the conspiracy that has befallen us weak minded folk?

Much ado about nothing.

My doctor says in order to keep my blood pressue under control, I should disavow any knowledge of conspiracies, even though, as my rabbit friend Harvey once told me, "They're out to get me ya know."

The Sky Is Falling.

I really do prefer to spend my time worrying about the health of my friends and family, rather than wasting it on the rants and raves of the verbal minority.

My name is Paul, and I approve this message!

I don't understand the point of your post. Or at least how you feel about the movie being shown or not at the local theaters.

I don't know whether I would enjoy the movie, but generally one doesn't go to the local theaters to view documentary type movies. Or perhaps this is not such a movie?

You are new to the forum. Are you new to The Villages, Paul?

Schaumburger 08-17-2012 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 541991)
:beer3: I assume you live in Schaumburg which is close to O'Hare. Hey, that's a pretty nice burg to live in! If you depend on your slot winnings to buy you a house in TV, a new snowblower might be a good idea while they are on sale this summer.

Schaumburger did you ever read so much to do about a documentary movie that may not be shown in TV? I guess I'm just not one to get that :shrug: excited about any movie ----especially a documentary.

I wonder if the manager of the Rialto has run away from home yet? I'm still waiting to hear what he had to say!

Yes, I have lived in Schaumburg since 1994. And since I didn't win the Powerball jackpot of $320 million yesterday, and I had to spent $1,800 on dental work this week, I won't be buying in TV this year :(

As far as the documentary, 2016 Obama's America -- it is playing at the AMC theater about 15 minutes from my home. If anyone wants to fly to O'Hare, I will pick you up and we can go see the movie together. And I will watch you eat the expensive movie popcorn that I cannot eat as I had a tooth pulled on Thursday, and will be getting a dental implant in about 6 months from now so it will probably be awhile until I can eat popcorn again. Probably too much information. TGIF.

quirky3 08-17-2012 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 542009)
still waiting to hear the results of that meeting with that young manager.....OP how did it go??

Bogie - we may be waiting a while to hear from the OP. I don't see her listed as a member under "Community" today, unless I am not browsing correctly.

graciegirl 08-17-2012 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 542093)
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oh.

I had better watch what I say. I like it here.

Challenger 08-17-2012 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by pooh (Post 540856)
Why do you think the movie is banned? Movie theaters don't always show what you think they should...and it is the same in other parts of the country. If they decide not to show it, and it is their right, you may have to drive to another city where the movie is being shown.

:BigApplause:
Enough said

Barefoot 08-17-2012 07:33 AM

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BobKat1 08-17-2012 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by quirky3 (Post 542093)
Bogie - we may be waiting a while to hear from the OP. I don't see her listed as a member under "Community" today, unless I am not browsing correctly.

I guess the OP has left the building???

Barefoot 08-17-2012 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BobKat1 (Post 542117)
I guess the OP has left the building???

I'd assume that's the case. I think HB enjoyed expressing her political views, so perhaps she has moved on to a Political Forum somewhere else.

Bogie Shooter 08-17-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 542128)
I'd assume that's the case. I think HB enjoyed expressing her political views, so perhaps she has moved on to a Political Forum somewhere else.

Still posting on other threads..................just avoiding the movie banning thread.

quirky3 08-17-2012 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 542178)
Still posting on other threads..................just avoiding the movie banning thread.

Has not posted since before 7:30pm last night

Barefoot 08-17-2012 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 542178)
Still posting on other threads..................just avoiding the movie banning thread.

As Quirky pointed out, if you do a member search, she is no longer a member.

EdV 08-17-2012 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 541946)
.....A movie theater is a place for ENTERTAINMENT, not enlightenment, or study or education.

There's no reason why a movie cannot be both, there's just not enough of them. Apollo 13 as an example, especially for anyone under the age of 40 who didn't experience the drama of it first hand.

Golfingnut 08-17-2012 09:32 AM

I would think since this movie is more of a fantasy type movie, you would not find a large audience in The Villages due to our age and maturity. Underground cult movies due better in cities with large populations of younger people that like being involved in conspiracy theories.


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