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Dotneko 07-24-2023 07:00 AM

I cant imagine being so bored that I would spend money to see - at least what the previews show - a big screen of Pepto Bismol pink. Didnt have them as a kid.

Caymus 07-24-2023 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2238227)
It’s doing well…. As a female director myself, this is great to see.


Greta Gerwig has broken the opening weekend record for a female director, solo or otherwise.

Her Barbie movie opened to an estimated $155 million at the North American box office over the July 21-23 weekend, a historic sum that easily surpasses the $103.3 domestic opening of Patty Jenkins’ Wonder Woman. In 2019, Captain Marvel also broke the glass ceiling when debuting at $153 million. That movie was co-directed by Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck.

Other stats: Barbie scored the top opening of the year to date, as well as one of the top openings since the pandemic, and it towered over Christopher Nolan’s male-skewing Oppenheimer this weekend. (Oppenheimer still did well in its own right for a three-hour historical drama in opening to $80.5 million).

Hard to imagine any "man" going to see Barbie that wasn't coerced or bribed.

Battlebasset 07-24-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Remembergoldenrule (Post 2237673)
Another different review. For most don’t take grandkids.

Barbie - Plugged In


Thanks. A very even handed review. Agree, not for the under 13 crowd. Which is odd, as Barbie is marketed to 3 to 9 year olds.

Whitley 07-24-2023 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by craarmy (Post 2237661)
This day and age, 19 not married, already has one, another on the way, Ken's the father and who knows who's the other father.

First, I find the term "father" offensive. I would let "Baby Daddy" slide, though even that enforces the patriarchy. Non birthing Sperm donor is appropriate.

Velvet 07-24-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotneko (Post 2238254)
I cant imagine being so bored that I would spend money to see - at least what the previews show - a big screen of Pepto Bismol pink. Didnt have them as a kid.

Yes, beside the cheap sexist version of the initial doll, it’s the predominant ugly pink which is so hard to get used to… but some people like it. No female gets pumped up breasts and high heeled mules for other females. Nor would she suffer like that for herself. Initial Barbie represented a pathetic image of trying to please males. Some people say it’s empowerment, well, personally I don’t think that looking like a hooker is female empowerment. I think it’s more like a desperate attempt, at any cost, to get male attention. But that’s just me. My sister-in-law, a very proper, very British, lady turned her livingroom and dining room into various versions of Barbie pink.

Bogie Shooter 07-24-2023 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2238260)
Hard to imagine any "man" going to see Barbie that wasn't coerced or bribed.

:what:

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-24-2023 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2238260)
Hard to imagine any "man" going to see Barbie that wasn't coerced or bribed.

Hard to imagine any "real man" who'd be threatened so much by Barbie that they'd need to be coerced or bribed to accompany their date to it.

OrangeBlossomBaby 07-24-2023 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238303)
...Some people say it’s empowerment, well, personally I don’t think that looking like a hooker is female empowerment. I think it’s more like a desperate attempt, at any cost, to get male attention. But that’s just me.

Dolly Parton disagrees with you on this. "Trailer trash slut" is her signature look and she's very proud of it. She loves looking this way, she is famous not only for her magical voice, lyrics, and kindness, but absolutely also for that appearance.

Velvet 07-24-2023 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2238369)
Dolly Parton disagrees with you on this. "Trailer trash slut" is her signature look and she's very proud of it. She loves looking this way, she is famous not only for her magical voice, lyrics, and kindness, but absolutely also for that appearance.

Well, depends what one considers successful? High end hookers, escorts, and gold diggers also do quite well when it comes to parting men from their money. And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.

Veiragirl 07-24-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2237599)
Does anyone know why there isn't a pregnant Barbie?

Because Barbie uses BIRTH CONTROL

JMintzer 07-24-2023 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2238365)
Hard to imagine any "real man" who'd be threatened so much by Barbie that they'd need to be coerced or bribed to accompany their date to it.

Threatened? Not a chance... Bored to tears? Most likely...

JMintzer 07-24-2023 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238381)
Well, depends what one considers successful? High end hookers, escorts, and gold diggers also do quite well when it comes to parting men from their money. And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.

Yeah, I'd back the truck up on that one... She's quite the astute business woman... She know exactly what she's doing...

Caymus 07-25-2023 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2238365)
Hard to imagine any "real man" who'd be threatened so much by Barbie that they'd need to be coerced or bribed to accompany their date to it.

I was going to use the word "nagged". What are the demographics of the audience?

Boomer 07-25-2023 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238381)
And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.



Ruh Roh, first thread I look at this morning and here we have Dolly being looked down upon. Harrumph!

I do not pay much attention to celebrities, but if Dolly is being interviewed, I make a point of trying to see/read it.

Why?

Dolly is savvy in business, highly intelligent, a philanthropist, witty, brilliant with words (with lyrics and in conversation), a gifted musician, a marketing genius, a creative genius — and all that — along with a kind and knowing heart.

America needs more like Dolly.

Boomer

LuvNH 07-25-2023 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2238542)
Ruh Roh, first thread I look at this morning and here we have Dolly being looked down upon. Harrumph!

I do not pay much attention to celebrities, but if Dolly is being interviewed, I make a point of trying to see/read it.

Why?

Dolly is savvy in business, highly intelligent, a philanthropist, witty, brilliant with words (with lyrics and in conversation), a gifted musician, a marketing genius, a creative genius — and all that — along with a kind and knowing heart.

America needs more like Dolly.

Boomer

:agree:

LuvNH 07-25-2023 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238381)
Well, depends what one considers successful? High end hookers, escorts, and gold diggers also do quite well when it comes to parting men from their money. And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.

Nobody "handles" Dolly. She has a backbone of steel. Would I want my grandchildren to emulate her looks, no, but I would LOVE them to have her SMARTS and to be as successful as she is.

Two Bills 07-25-2023 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2238369)
Dolly Parton disagrees with you on this. "Trailer trash slut" is her signature look and she's very proud of it. She loves looking this way, she is famous not only for her magical voice, lyrics, and kindness, but absolutely also for that appearance.

"If I hadn't been a woman, I'd have been a drag queen,"
"It costs a lot to look this cheap."
"I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb ... and I know I'm not blonde."
DP.

I'm not a C&W fan, but I love her personality, style, and her singing.
The lady is the real article.

Kelevision 07-25-2023 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238381)
Well, depends what one considers successful? High end hookers, escorts, and gold diggers also do quite well when it comes to parting men from their money. And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.

I consider anyone who’s made a half a BILLION dollars successful. As for Dolly, don’t confuse not being educated with not being smart. Smart is not giving your song plus 1/2 the publishing right to Elvis because he’s ELVIS. You can bet her handlers weren’t happy about that. Instead she made 10 million off it with Whitney Houston. She does a lot of good for her community with that money too. She’s one of the good ones. And yet most of her wealth is from Dollywood.

oldtimes 07-25-2023 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2238542)
Ruh Roh, first thread I look at this morning and here we have Dolly being looked down upon. Harrumph!

I do not pay much attention to celebrities, but if Dolly is being interviewed, I make a point of trying to see/read it.

Why?

Dolly is savvy in business, highly intelligent, a philanthropist, witty, brilliant with words (with lyrics and in conversation), a gifted musician, a marketing genius, a creative genius — and all that — along with a kind and knowing heart.

America needs more like Dolly.

Boomer

Totally agree :BigApplause:

Chi-Town 07-25-2023 01:44 PM

Looks like it could be a fun movie. Teaser trailer:

https://youtu.be/8zIf0XvoL9Y

JMintzer 07-25-2023 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2238542)
Ruh Roh, first thread I look at this morning and here we have Dolly being looked down upon. Harrumph!

I do not pay much attention to celebrities, but if Dolly is being interviewed, I make a point of trying to see/read it.

Why?

Dolly is savvy in business, highly intelligent, a philanthropist, witty, brilliant with words (with lyrics and in conversation), a gifted musician, a marketing genius, a creative genius — and all that — along with a kind and knowing heart.

America needs more like Dolly.

Boomer

Preach it!

Cybersprings 07-25-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2237771)
Very uncomfortable. I, personally, don’t like to see people suffer. What does it say about people who like to see others suffer? Notice how popular that shoe style is among men?


You must be joking. You think that when people find a shoe style very attractive on a woman, what they are really thinking is I am so glad she is in pain wearing those? Up until recently, not many men wore shoes like that, so the thought of the comfort never crossed their minds. And, if it did, it was completely blocked out by the other thoughts.

Cybersprings 07-25-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2238365)
Hard to imagine any "real man" who'd be threatened so much by Barbie that they'd need to be coerced or bribed to accompany their date to it.

So talented at "Knowing" others thoughts. I am guessing the poster might have meant that a "real man" would not be interested in watching that movie. But then again, I am just guessing, and not so sure that I know.

Cybersprings 07-25-2023 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238303)
Yes, beside the cheap sexist version of the initial doll, it’s the predominant ugly pink which is so hard to get used to… but some people like it. No female gets pumped up breasts and high heeled mules for other females. Nor would she suffer like that for herself. Initial Barbie represented a pathetic image of trying to please males. Some people say it’s empowerment, well, personally I don’t think that looking like a hooker is female empowerment. I think it’s more like a desperate attempt, at any cost, to get male attention. But that’s just me. My sister-in-law, a very proper, very British, lady turned her livingroom and dining room into various versions of Barbie pink.

Hmmm. I think you just offended or dismissed the many women who are interested in other women and might want to dress to impress them. Or do you know for a fact that no lesbian would dress that way for her wife/partner?

Velvet 07-25-2023 02:07 PM

Well I can see how Dolly got her money, or why she is doing it “her” way. To me there are somethings money can’t buy, different values I guess.

JMintzer 07-25-2023 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238303)
Yes, beside the cheap sexist version of the initial doll, it’s the predominant ugly pink which is so hard to get used to… but some people like it. No female gets pumped up breasts and high heeled mules for other females. Nor would she suffer like that for herself. Initial Barbie represented a pathetic image of trying to please males. Some people say it’s empowerment, well, personally I don’t think that looking like a hooker is female empowerment. I think it’s more like a desperate attempt, at any cost, to get male attention. But that’s just me. My sister-in-law, a very proper, very British, lady turned her livingroom and dining room into various versions of Barbie pink.

Multiple studies show that women dress to impress other women...

LuvNH 07-25-2023 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2238747)
Multiple studies show that women dress to impress other women...

Definitely. I never dressed to impress the men when I worked.

Velvet 07-25-2023 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2238747)
Multiple studies show that women dress to impress other women...

K, I guess I like to fit in myself, with other women and men, but not to the point of suffering for it. The girdle never worked for me either, but then, I didn’t get paid for wearing it. No sado-masochism tendencies I guess. I don’t like to see a pet suffer in a tight harness why would I like to see a person suffer for “beauty”?

Boomer 08-07-2023 01:18 PM

Barbie broke a billion and it did not take long.

Saw it with my daughter Boomette. We both loved it. Entertaining, fun to watch, with a sidelong dose of wicked satire for us grownup women. . .

The satire joyfully mocks the patriarchy.

I guess that’s why those insecure, shorzenabunch types got all upset and ranted idiotically about a cleverly creative movie that also makes a point. They had not done such wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth since that little piece of candy they had been objectifying changed her shoes.

And then came the Barbie movie. Horrors! That too smart for her own good Barbie, with her own house, and her own car, and all those good jobs, and enjoying her life, with a little Ken on the side — how dare she not know her place!

But at the end of the movie, everything works out fairly for all. If only………(sigh)

Anyway, after the movie, I apologized to Boomette because I was one of those moms who wrongly assumed that Barbie was shallow and a bimbo and would send the wrong message to my little girl. It never occurred to me that Barbie was actually a true pioneer woman.

(Of course, Boomette secretly played with Barbie at her friends’ houses. So all was not lost. She is way into fashion though, but that’s OK. She has a couple of degrees and can buy her own shoes.)

If you like Barbie and would like to know all about Ruth Handler, her creator, you probably would like a podcast titled, “Barbie and Ruth Handler: A History.”

You can listen to this podcast, along with a lot of other podcasts about famous women throughout history by looking up The History Chicks. This particular one about Ruth Handler was from a few years ago, but they did a re-run for the movie.

The History Chicks are fun to listen to. Their podcasts go into some fascinating facts. I think most of them run over an hour but hold your interest. They cite their sources and suggest further reading at the end — at least in the ones I have listened to so far.

If you take a scroll through the long list of these podcasts — that have been running since 2011 — I bet some of those famous women will grab you — and then The History Chicks can join you on your next road trip or while you need to catch up on mundane chores or sit around the pool.

Boomer

Whitley 08-07-2023 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2242536)
Barbie broke a billion and it did not take long.

Saw it with my daughter Boomette. We both loved it. Entertaining, fun to watch, with a sidelong dose of wicked satire for us grownup women. . .

The satire joyfully mocks the patriarchy.

I guess that’s why those insecure, shorzenabunch types got all upset and ranted idiotically about a cleverly creative movie that also makes a point. They had not done such wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth since that little piece of candy they had been objectifying changed her shoes.

And then came the Barbie movie. Horrors! That too smart for her own good Barbie, with her own house, and her own car, and all those good jobs, and enjoying her life, with a little Ken on the side — how dare she not know her place!

But at the end of the movie, everything works out fairly for all. If only………(sigh)

Anyway, after the movie, I apologized to Boomette because I was one of those 1970s moms who thought Barbie would send the wrong message to my little girl. It never occurred to me that Barbie was a true pioneer woman.

(Of course, Boomette secretly played with Barbie at her friends’ houses. So all was not lost. She is way into fashion though, but that’s OK. She has a couple of degrees and can buy her own shoes.)

If you like Barbie and would like to know all about Ruth Handler, her creator, you probably would like a podcast titled, “Barbie and Ruth Handler: A History.”

You can listen to this podcast, along with a lot of other podcasts about famous women throughout history by looking up The History Chicks. This particular one about Ruth Handler was from a few years ago, but they did a re-run for the movie.

The History Chicks are fun to listen to. Their podcasts go into some fascinating facts. I think most of them run over an hour but hold your interest. They cite their sources and suggest further reading at the end — at least in the ones I have listened to so far. There are a whole lot the History Chicks podcasts now. They have been around for a while, but I found them recently. Take a scroll through the list. I bet some of them will grab you.

Boomer

Here I just thought the trailer looked stupid. WOw I'd never guess it was all of those other things.

Whitley 08-07-2023 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2238381)
Well, depends what one considers successful? High end hookers, escorts, and gold diggers also do quite well when it comes to parting men from their money. And Dolly is an uneducated, but very talented, originally extremely poor, country girl, easily influenced by her handlers. Not exactly what I’d like my daughters to aspire to.

Wow, so because she has different views than others, some people jump to a conclusion that she is easily influenced by her handlers. Only women who do not care if men find them attractive and have the male haircut are so brave, beautiful and strong ??

Whitley 08-07-2023 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 2238387)
Because Barbie uses BIRTH CONTROL

She became a third wave feminist. Couldn't find a guy.
I think I read that somewhere.

Whitley 08-07-2023 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2238542)
Ruh Roh, first thread I look at this morning and here we have Dolly being looked down upon. Harrumph!

I do not pay much attention to celebrities, but if Dolly is being interviewed, I make a point of trying to see/read it.

Why?

Dolly is savvy in business, highly intelligent, a philanthropist, witty, brilliant with words (with lyrics and in conversation), a gifted musician, a marketing genius, a creative genius — and all that — along with a kind and knowing heart.

America needs more like Dolly.

Boomer

I guess you didn't get the memo. Because she cares about her looks she is apparently trailer trash slutty , not intelligent and easily manipulated by handlers. I know, right.

Boomer 08-07-2023 02:14 PM

. . .

Velvet 08-07-2023 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2242553)
I guess you didn't get the memo. Because she cares about her looks she is apparently trailer trash slutty , not intelligent and easily manipulated by handlers. I know, right.

She cares about her looks, someone said her ideal is the trailer trash look, it wasn’t me who said that. I said she was not educated, people seem to equate that with smart. There are many forms of smart, education is one of them. I would guess she listened to her handlers, a simple country girl probably would, to people who knew how to work the media. Or do you think somehow, by magic, she just knew everything, from that isolated one-room cabin in the mountains, on her own? Dolly is successful in fame and money, but she paid a price that some people would not. That’s all.

Veiragirl 08-07-2023 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2237599)
Does anyone know why there isn't a pregnant Barbie?

Because she uses birth control

Ecuadog 08-07-2023 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2237599)
Does anyone know why there isn't a pregnant Barbie?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veiragirl (Post 2242586)
Because she uses birth control

See post #22.

threeonemiles@outlook.com 08-08-2023 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Ecuadog (Post 2237599)
Does anyone know why there isn't a pregnant Barbie?

Or a tranny Barbie?

Whitley 08-08-2023 07:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2242536)
Barbie broke a billion and it did not take long.

Saw it with my daughter Boomette. We both loved it. Entertaining, fun to watch, with a sidelong dose of wicked satire for us grownup women. . .

The satire joyfully mocks the patriarchy.

I guess that’s why those insecure, shorzenabunch types got all upset and ranted idiotically about a cleverly creative movie that also makes a point. They had not done such wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth since that little piece of candy they had been objectifying changed her shoes.

And then came the Barbie movie. Horrors! That too smart for her own good Barbie, with her own house, and her own car, and all those good jobs, and enjoying her life, with a little Ken on the side — how dare she not know her place!

But at the end of the movie, everything works out fairly for all. If only………(sigh)

Anyway, after the movie, I apologized to Boomette because I was one of those moms who wrongly assumed that Barbie was shallow and a bimbo and would send the wrong message to my little girl. It never occurred to me that Barbie was actually a true pioneer woman.

(Of course, Boomette secretly played with Barbie at her friends’ houses. So all was not lost. She is way into fashion though, but that’s OK. She has a couple of degrees and can buy her own shoes.)

If you like Barbie and would like to know all about Ruth Handler, her creator, you probably would like a podcast titled, “Barbie and Ruth Handler: A History.”

You can listen to this podcast, along with a lot of other podcasts about famous women throughout history by looking up The History Chicks. This particular one about Ruth Handler was from a few years ago, but they did a re-run for the movie.

The History Chicks are fun to listen to. Their podcasts go into some fascinating facts. I think most of them run over an hour but hold your interest. They cite their sources and suggest further reading at the end — at least in the ones I have listened to so far. There are a whole lot of the History Chicks podcasts now. They have been around for a while, but I found them recently. Take a scroll through the list. I bet some of them will grab you and then The History Chicks can join you on your next road trip or while you need to catch up on mundane chores or sit around the pool.

Boomer


Hoping we all know that Barbie is a plastic doll. A REAL woman who took control of her life and made her own money is insulted by some of the very posters complimenting a plastic doll.

Boomer 08-08-2023 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 2242536)
Barbie broke a billion and it did not take long.

Saw it with my daughter Boomette. We both loved it. Entertaining, fun to watch, with a sidelong dose of wicked satire for us grownup women. . .

The satire joyfully mocks the patriarchy.

I guess that’s why those insecure, shorzenabunch types got all upset and ranted idiotically about a cleverly creative movie that also makes a point. They had not done such wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth since that little piece of candy they had been objectifying changed her shoes.

And then came the Barbie movie. Horrors! That too smart for her own good Barbie, with her own house, and her own car, and all those good jobs, and enjoying her life, with a little Ken on the side — how dare she not know her place!

But at the end of the movie, everything works out fairly for all. If only………(sigh)

Anyway, after the movie, I apologized to Boomette because I was one of those moms who wrongly assumed that Barbie was shallow and a bimbo and would send the wrong message to my little girl. It never occurred to me that Barbie was actually a true pioneer woman.

(Of course, Boomette secretly played with Barbie at her friends’ houses. So all was not lost. She is way into fashion though, but that’s OK. She has a couple of degrees and can buy her own shoes.)

If you like Barbie and would like to know all about Ruth Handler, her creator, you probably would like a podcast titled, “Barbie and Ruth Handler: A History.”

You can listen to this podcast, along with a lot of other podcasts about famous women throughout history by looking up The History Chicks. This particular one about Ruth Handler was from a few years ago, but they did a re-run for the movie.

The History Chicks are fun to listen to. Their podcasts go into some fascinating facts. I think most of them run over an hour but hold your interest. They cite their sources and suggest further reading at the end — at least in the ones I have listened to so far.

If you take a scroll through the long list of these podcasts — that have been running since 2011 — I bet some of those famous women will grab you — and then The History Chicks can join you on your next road trip or while you need to catch up on mundane chores or sit around the pool.

Boomer




Quote:

Originally Posted by Whitley (Post 2242546)
Here I just thought the trailer looked stupid. WOw I'd never guess it was all of those other things.

Hey! Good morning, Whitley,

You’re welcome.

Boomer :)


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