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golfing eagles 03-07-2025 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414347)
The Academy should be able to pick which stories they want to honor with the Best Picture label. I do find that with some of them they are pushing too hard and just creating animosity from certain groups. They are using them as teaching moments and some people want a different book altogether.

Yes, they can use whatever criteria they want. But imagine if they reversed criteria and stated they will only consider movies with an all white cast. Would that be acceptable and within their rights

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414364)
Yes, they can use whatever criteria they want. But imagine if they reversed criteria and stated they will only consider movies with an all white cast. Would that be acceptable and within their rights

Probably not. Some clever lawyers would find a way to go after the Academy especially if it looks like other parties are involved. The normal trend would be to include more and more different ethnic and sexual identity groups not less and less.

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414256)
So, it's OK to fill a role with a less talented actor so that some diversity quota is met? There are plenty of talented "POC" actors, I wonder what they think of lowering standards to accommodate their less talented brethren. When I watch a movie, I want entertainment and quality performances. I couldn't give a rat's furry arse about how much "diversity" the casting director was able to shove down our throats. Give me Morgan Freeman and Denzel Washington all day long, but don't give me "all the stars that never were who are parking cars and pumping gas"

The last line is very clever. Impressive!!!!

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414300)
I see no problem with having stories told that reflect a broad spectrum of people in the US. And a good story can influence great changes. Uncle Tom's Cabin or Gulliver's Travels for instance. It is 2025 now though.

I would say that "Zero Day" was a recent series that was thoughtful enough to influence people. And maybe make small changes. It showed that the US's biggest enemy could come from within.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414388)
I would say that "Zero Day" was a recent series that was thoughtful enough to influence people. And maybe make small changes. It showed that the US's biggest enemy could come from within.

I really have enjoyed "Zero Day".

golfing eagles 03-07-2025 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414388)
I would say that "Zero Day" was a recent series that was thoughtful enough to influence people. And maybe make small changes. It showed that the US's biggest enemy could come from within.

Again, I watch a movie for entertainment, not to be "influenced". If anyone is going to influence anyone, it is going to be ME! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414384)
The last line is very clever. Impressive!!!!

My brother used to live near where Denzel Washington had a buddy. I hear he is a down -to-earth person. Mr. Washington. Not so much his buddy.

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414316)
I am pretty sure the Academy is a private organization and not a public one so there would not be much that could be done about it.

The Academy Awards is a highly produced entertainment spectacle designed for self-promotion. I do NOT go to movie theaters since I get enough entertainment to suit me from N, Prime, and Max. I only saw Dune 2 which was excellent. When I was younger and went to theaters often, I rarely agreed with the Academe's best picture choice. So, whatever their criterion for best picture is up to them and I really don't care. It is like a dog show, which I also don't watch.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414401)
The Academy Awards is a highly produced entertainment spectacle designed for self-promotion. I do NOT go to movie theaters since I get enough entertainment to suit me from N, Prime, and Max. I only saw Dune 2 which was excellent. When I was younger and went to theaters often, I rarely agreed with the Academe's best picture choice. So, whatever their criterion for best picture is up to them and I really don't care. It is like a dog show, which I also don't watch.

I have rarely agreed with the Best Picture choice either. I definitely thought Saving Private Ryan was way better than Shakespeare in Love.

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414399)
Again, I watch a movie for entertainment, not to be "influenced". If anyone is going to influence anyone, it is going to be ME! :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

A psychologist might say that every stimulation influences every organism, even people. Movie directors know that they can influence the audience if they so desire. And MOST movie goers/ watchers want a movie to push them to tears or otherwise impress them intellectually and emotionally.

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414400)
My brother used to live near where Denzel Washington had a buddy. I hear he is a down -to-earth person. Mr. Washington. Not so much his buddy.

It takes a MENTALLY strong person to attain fame and NOT be controlled by it. Example the Batman suicide. (Actually, The Joker)

golfing eagles 03-07-2025 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414402)
I have rarely agreed with the Best Picture choice either. I definitely thought Saving Private Ryan was way better than Shakespeare in Love.

Me neither. But I think there is a big difference between picking a winner and excluding a movie from even being considered because it failed to meet some arbitrary diversity/DIE/quota criteria.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414407)
It takes a MENTALLY strong person to attain fame and NOT be controlled by it. Example the Batman suicide. (Actually, The Joker)

Heath Ledger died from an accidental prescription drug overdose according to the Medical Examiner.

He was great as the Joker.

jimjamuser 03-07-2025 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414415)
Heath Ledger died from an accidental prescription drug overdose according to the Medical Examiner.

He was great as the Joker.

Yes, that was a shame, he was a great actor. Imagine how many other great roles that he could have been in if he had lived longer. Everyone desires FAME, but few can pay it's price.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jimjamuser (Post 2414417)
Yes, that was a shame, he was a great actor. Imagine how many other great roles that he could have been in if he had lived longer. Everyone desires FAME, but few can pay it's price.

Fame would be very low on my list of goals. I see some of the people who have earned it and am rather revolted by fame's choice.

Tvflguy 03-07-2025 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2414364)
Yes, they can use whatever criteria they want. But imagine if they reversed criteria and stated they will only consider movies with an all white cast. Would that be acceptable and within their rights

Totally agree!

I assume that the Academy is a private institution and they can determine rulings as they wish. But this is yet another reason why we no longer watch Awards shows. And very seldom spend our $$$ on most movies now. Bizarro World.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2414439)
Totally agree!

I assume that the Academy is a private institution and they can determine rulings as they wish. But this is yet another reason why we no longer watch Awards shows. And very seldom spend our $$$ on most movies now. Bizarro World.

Top Gun: Maverick needed to be seen on the biggest screen available. Think I saw it three times at the Old Mill Playhouse. Tom Cruise, from what I have heard, is a rather decent person.

Tvflguy 03-07-2025 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414455)
Top Gun: Maverick needed to be seen on the biggest screen available. Think I saw it three times at the Old Mill Playhouse. Tom Cruise, from what I have heard, is a rather decent person.

We saw it at home on our huge screen and great sound system. No sticky floors or side conversations. Our popcorn and drinks. And ability to pause the movie when nature calls. Our favorite way to watch any movie now…. Plus saves $$$. bonus.

Taltarzac725 03-07-2025 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvflguy (Post 2414472)
We saw it at home on our huge screen and great sound system. No sticky floors or side conversations. Our popcorn and drinks. And ability to pause the movie when nature calls. Our favorite way to watch any movie now…. Plus saves $$$. bonus.

Nature does call a lot. Hard to get any further than a two hour movie.

Tvflguy 03-07-2025 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2414479)
Nature does call a lot. Hard to get any further than a two hour movie.

Personally, it’s a stretch to go 1.5 hours… One of the minuses of getting old.


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