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MelZ 08-31-2010 08:30 AM

Gee I remember my parents saying the same thing about Elvis

villa2 08-31-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MelZ (Post 288356)
Gee I remember my parents saying the same thing about Elvis

I am a Baby Boomer and my parents and all my friend's parents listened to rock and roll on the radio. This comparison to rap is bogus in my opinion.

pauld315 08-31-2010 12:16 PM

If my dad was alive today he would be 93 and I don't remember him ever liking rock and roll or listening to it, at least on purpose. He hated rap ! Me, I am a boomer. I grew up on rock and roll and can tolerate any music. I don't go out and buy rap music but it certainly doesn't ruin my day to hear it.

villa2 08-31-2010 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pauld315 (Post 288416)
If my dad was alive today he would be 93 and I don't remember him ever liking rock and roll or listening to it, at least on purpose. He hated rap ! Me, I am a boomer. I grew up on rock and roll and can tolerate any music. I don't go out and buy rap music but it certainly doesn't ruin my day to hear it.

I have really tried to wipe the dust from my foggy brain, but it seems to me that rock and roll was everywhere when I was growing up. When I went to friends homes it was on the radio. The afternoons after school. (remember Shindig and American Bandstand in the afternoons?)
My uncle was the one who introduced me to Little Richard and Elvis Presley. when I was a little tike.

The only protests that I remember were the one's blown out of shape with Elvis's appearance on Ed Sullivan.

I just cannot imagine Dick Clark's American Rap Bandstand:yuck:

Pturner 08-31-2010 02:48 PM

Eeeek. I know I'm going to catch h**l for this. I do think many folks here are judging the entire genre based on the early, ugly, disgusting gangsta rap. As it has become big biz., much of it has gotten more mainstream sounding. I have heard some clever and catchy rap/hip hop that is good dance music and is not ugly, pounding, noise-sounding and disgusting.

My nieces and nephews love, absolutely love, the rock music I grew up with. I have learned to like, a little bit, some of the music they grew up with.

A lot of rap is horrible. Some of it isn't. Many people don't realize how much it has evolved. Some of it has gotten ok.

Please don't shoot me.

Pturner

bluedog103 08-31-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 288482)
Eeeek. I know I'm going to catch h**l for this. I do think many folks here are judging the entire genre based on the early, ugly, disgusting gangsta rap. As it has become big biz., much of it has gotten more mainstream sounding. I have heard some clever and catchy rap/hip hop that is good dance music and is not ugly, pounding, noise-sounding and disgusting.

My nieces and nephews love, absolutely love, the rock music I grew up with. I have learned to like, a little bit, some of the music they grew up with.

A lot of rap is horrible. Some of it isn't. Many people don't realize how much it has evolved. Some of it has gotten ok.

Please don't shoot me.

Pturner

I'm certain you have nothing to fear. Nobody on TOTV could get away with trying to lock and load on you. Your posts are consistently among my favorites.
I really have no quarrel with anyone who likes, or even tolerates rap or any other genre. For me, I can't get into music which has no discernible melody, at least to me. All I hear is very irritating noise with a rhythmic, monotonous beat.
You may hear something different.

tpop1 08-31-2010 04:02 PM

Omg!!
 
Am I caught in a time warp version of the movie "Footloose????":loco:

MelZ 09-01-2010 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by villa2 (Post 288359)
I am a Baby Boomer and my parents and all my friend's parents listened to rock and roll on the radio. This comparison to rap is bogus in my opinion.

Hmm I bet you not the only baby boomer here, HM don't you remember Alan Fried getting arrested for playing Rock and Roll. HM Don't you remember ministers calling Rock and Roll "The Devils Music".

BTW I am a big fan of Doo Wop (street corner music) which was the start of Rock and Roll and I do remember Rock's history.

bandsdavis 09-01-2010 03:38 PM

Rap and early Rock similarities
 
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Originally Posted by MelZ (Post 288668)
Hmm I bet you not the only baby boomer here, HM don't you remember Alan Fried getting arrested for playing Rock and Roll. HM Don't you remember ministers calling Rock and Roll "The Devils Music".

BTW I am a big fan of Doo Wop (street corner music) which was the start of Rock and Roll and I do remember Rock's history.

I'm with you, MelZ, and everyone else who remembers our parents and other adults negative responses to early Rock. It even extended into the mid-60's when I joined my first Rock band. I remember distinctly my father saying something like "Why do you want to play that crap? It's just a lot of drums, loud guitars, and words you can't even understand!" Luckily for me, my Mom recognized that I was going to find a way to play it anyway, so she got my Dad to let me trade in my acoustic guitar (they approved of Folk Music) and get an electric. But many of the parents and other adults of that time, especially ones that were older, hated rock n roll as much as some of the posters here hate Rap. Not all of them, of course, but many. I'm also a big Doo Wop fan and hope to find some folks to sing with when we get to TV sometime early next year.

B.

villa2 09-01-2010 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MelZ (Post 288668)
Hmm I bet you not the only baby boomer here, HM don't you remember Alan Fried getting arrested for playing Rock and Roll. HM Don't you remember ministers calling Rock and Roll "The Devils Music".

BTW I am a big fan of Doo Wop (street corner music) which was the start of Rock and Roll and I do remember Rock's history.

Maybe so, but I remember it everywhere and it was more in the mainstream then rap will ever be.

suebanj 09-01-2010 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Pturner (Post 288482)
Eeeek. I know I'm going to catch h**l for this. I do think many folks here are judging the entire genre based on the early, ugly, disgusting gangsta rap. As it has become big biz., much of it has gotten more mainstream sounding. I have heard some clever and catchy rap/hip hop that is good dance music and is not ugly, pounding, noise-sounding and disgusting.

My nieces and nephews love, absolutely love, the rock music I grew up with. I have learned to like, a little bit, some of the music they grew up with.

A lot of rap is horrible. Some of it isn't. Many people don't realize how much it has evolved. Some of it has gotten ok.

Please don't shoot me.

Pturner

:BigApplause:

Some rap has awful lyrics but if you go on to You Tube and put in Christian Rap Songs you hear alot of wonderful lyrics.....I say if you don't like the music being played somewhere go somewhere else...There is so much here in The villages that I believe everyone can be Happy!!!!

villa2 09-01-2010 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by suebanj (Post 288782)
:BigApplause:

Some rap has awful lyrics but if you go on to You Tube and put in Christian Rap Songs you hear alot of wonderful lyrics.....I say if you don't like the music being played somewhere go somewhere else...There is so much here in The villages that I believe everyone can be Happy!!!!

Do you think that the Villages will start playing rap music through their speaker systems throughout the squares? That would be interesting.:D

Bosoxfan 09-01-2010 04:52 PM

I couldn't agree more....
 
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Originally Posted by Russ_Boston (Post 287718)
I don't think I could ever bring myself to just out and out say that I hate a whole style of music.

I like some styles a lot more than others but even the styles I don't like have a few redeeming songs.

I'm not a fan of rap either but if you listen some have great messages.Listen to Will Smith's Just The Two of Us.

Russ_Boston 09-01-2010 05:20 PM

Another thing to remember:

I think a lot of posters here don't get the difference between hip-hop and rap. I would bet that you actually like a lot of hip-hop even though some it is voiced rather than sung. Hip-hop has more of a dance beat.

Pturner 09-01-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MelZ (Post 288668)
Hmm I bet you not the only baby boomer here, HM don't you remember Alan Fried getting arrested for playing Rock and Roll. HM Don't you remember ministers calling Rock and Roll "The Devils Music".

BTW I am a big fan of Doo Wop (street corner music) which was the start of Rock and Roll and I do remember Rock's history.

I remember. I also remember my parents hating rock, initially.

When the Beatles were on Ed Sullivan, they said it was just loud noise and you couldn't understand the words. Now both my parents acknowledge that the Beatles wrote a lot of beautiful music. They even like a lot of 50s-70s music now. Go figure.


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