I totally get that, however when you look at the current pay scale its difficult to be sympathetic to the union. As I read the current contract they recieve around $30,000 for every 30 minute episode they write , and app $120,000 for every new show theme they write. This on top of residuals as reruns. Its hard to match this to the unions claims that 49% of their writers are making minimum wage. If that's truly the case they should find another industry to work in.

Sag and Aftra claim to have 171,157 actors, I'm sure most of us couldn't name100 actors. Most of these members are lucky to make a living wage. Yes, there are actors who are making millions, but that is a handful. This strike not only effects actors and writer, but also crews, caters, equipment rentals, hotels and on and on. Now I'm happy for the people who are satisfied to watch TCM for the rest of their lives, but you do understand that strikes like this have an effect on our economy. There is an unequitable amount of money at the top, anyone who denies that is living in a bubble. If there is a reduce in income because of streaming, then all parties should sit down and figure out how to share the reductions, not just the employees.

That’s true but there is the old supply and demand aspect. If they are producing an inferior product that people are not enjoying and therefore not watching maybe they should consider improving their product. They can pay everyone more money but if the viewers continue to drop they have not solved anything.

I could not care less about the Hollywood community.

You have to understand what actually hits the screen is usually decided by the people at the top. Not the actors or the writers. The business is also a gamble, I worked on jobs I though where only going to collect dust and became hits. I've worked on jobs where they were critically acclaimed and barely broke even. It's a crap shoot but when you hit, it pays off big time. No one really knows. Remember the Edsel, I'm sure who ever designed that believed it was going to dominate the auto industry.

These are fair points and I wish them well but I still think they are producing more Edsels than anything else.

Good riddance I say!

They didn’t “join” the strike. The writers went on strike when their contract was up and so did the actors. The directors contract was also up a couple of weeks ago but they chose to make a deal instead of strike. The actors were up June 30 and they extended one week hoping to make a deal.

Well, then you remember the last writers strike when they started airing reruns. That’ll happen soon. You’ll get to see Victor young again.

Didnt know actors contract was up but whole thing not my problem.

No, the actors aren’t supporting the writers by striking. Just like the writers contract was up last month, the directors contract was up 2 weeks ago ( we made a deal and didn’t strike) the actors contract was up June 30, they extended it by one week in hopes of making a deal but that didn’t happen. So now they’re striking.

What a self centered question. Yes there are thousands of people who will miss them and care that they are on strike. I don’t mean the people that will have to wait a little longer to see the new episode of their favorite show. I mean numerous people whose livelihood depends on these people working. These people are now out of a job with no income coming in. But then as long as it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter.

These blockbuster movies often hire thousands of people in the locations they are being filmed. So they do have quite an impact.

Not sure how many people the television productions hire but it would probably be quite a number for shows with a lot of scenery and special effects.

Each tv show employees apporox 150 regular crew members during production and maybe 1/3 of them work through prep and wrap.

There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.

If it is so hard, they should quit and obtained jobs in other industries.

The last time the writers and actors went on strike at the same time was in 1960, when Ronald Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild.

Nobody forces them to continue in this industry. They choose to for whatever reason.

Most are skilled trades electrician plumber carpenters painters will be easy for them to transition to similar work. Filming crews, editors will have a harder time. End credits of a movies list jobs and names associated with production

Do they really need all the people listed at the end of a film? From some articles I suspect there is some featherbedding going on.

Since films are such a high risk business do not understand why films cost such huge amounts.

I guess I see their point in striking while they still can.
Within a few years, they will become as obsolete as the Telegraph.

My thoughts are soon A.I. will replace most actors and screenwriters.

At least with A.I. actors, we won't have to listen to their personal Political views anymore.
There are some actors I like, but can't get myself to watch because of the insane things they try to push on me just because they are "famous".

I have always respected some actors for their ability to make me believe in the part they were portraying.
It was like I was watching something as it happened and I would forget it was a "play"
(Bogart/Bacall in "Key Largo", "To Have and Have Not" or "The Big Sleep" as examples)

I don't care nor want to know what their political views are.

But then again, that's probably just me... what do I know?

If you keep up with forum(or do a search) you will remember several threads about long lines of wait times to get into the movies. There are also threads about people trying to reopen the barnstorm theater. So yes a lot of people williss them.

Amen!

For the life of me, I cannot understand how anyone can give credence to such statements, when made by people whose ONLY demonstrated talent is pretending to be someone they're not.

Elaborate please…. Which actors and what are the insane things they try to push on you? I’ve never had an actor try to push insane things on me so I’m legit curious.

Probably something they have said on Oprah or other shows.

Some actors and actresses have raised awareness of certain issues. I thank them for their courage. Tippi Hedren - Rotten Tomatoes Her work on protections for exotic animal, for instance.

1.Tom Cruise- Scientology
2. Donald Trump and others getting voted into office
3. Oprah on just about EVERYTHING
4. Beyonce- Black Lives Matter
5. Kid Rock- ban Bud Light for going woke
6. Plastic Surgery Nonsense of actors/actresses who OBVIOUSLY had something done
7. Jennie McCarthy- Innoculations of children that prevent diseases causes autism. So, beware! Don't have your children injected.
8. Angelina Jolie- adopt third world children instead of having your own
9. Pamela Anderson- moved to France because Trump was elected

The list goes on and on..... BTW: Don't hate the messenger. You were the one who asked for examples

I do not hear that much about Travolta and Cruise on Scientology. Just once in a while.

And for every one actor/actress that pushes some interest of their own there are probably one hundred who do not.

And of course, Jane Fonda

The overpaid actors can afford fo be on strike the rest of their lives and still die filthy rich. As for the writers, really, they stink. Todays writers wouldn’t know a plot from a hole in the ground. In fact that’s exactly all they think that it is.

No not at all! i don’t hate the messenger :wave:
But when I think of pushing their agenda on others……
1. Scientologist actually never discuss being a Scientologist or Scientology with others. (they’re still creepy though)
2. Yes I agree but still not really pushing an agenda, other than all political agendas. Though I guess you could consider that weird Goya beans thing pushing agendas?
3. I admittedly don’t watch Oprah but people seem to love her opinions on her favorite things. :a040:
4. I mean, she’s black and again, it’s not pushing her agenda. Lots of black and non black celebs support BLM
5. Kid who? He’s just trying to say relevant. he’s also easily triggered by beer apparently.
6. Well they aren’t telling people to go out and get plastic surgery as a matter of fact, they might be helping women decide against it after seeing bad results?
7. I’ll give you this one for sure. Good example.
8. She’s had 3 of her own kids and also adopted. She first adopted when she was single. She started dating Billy Bob Thornton around the same time and he was a father figure to her eldest son for a while. She’s been a fantastic hands on mother. I admire her a great deal for that. She has the money to help so let her.
9. Actually, she moved there to live with her French boyfriend. Also, she’s Canadian and currently lives in her home country of Canada.

Another good one would be Leo DeCaprio and Climate Change. Or of course Jane Fonda.

Honestly I don’t care what they say on their own time but the shows are brain numbing. They seem to be more focused on pushing a social agenda than actually having a plot and the acting is a farce. The characters are unlikeable and unbelievable.

One of the concerns that the background actors have is having their image digitized and used in future productions without payment. They get paid for the one day/week that they are on the set and the studio would own their image forever. These folks, unlike the megastars, aren’t making millions. How many of you would be happy with that situation?

I think this is a bit of the telephone game. They’ve been scanning actors and background for a long time. Similar idea is… VFX… say you need a bug crawling on a person. You pay big bucks for them to create that bug BUT you can now use that bug for much much less in other scenes. You certainly can’t use that bug in other films or projects. Even if it’s the same studio they’d have to buy another bug. I’m guessing the offer was to pay the BG more money to scan them for that project only. AMPT aren’t stupid…..Wouldn’t it be great if we could all see what the real offers were? I should’ve have mentioned I’m currently in 2 unions. The DGA and IATSE. I feel bad for the thousands of IATSE crew members unemployed now because of these strikes.

Question for those that are supporting the strike - does going to a movie or watching steaming services constitute “crossing the picket line”?

Yesterday, Barry Diller suggested that, to end the strike, the executives and the highest paid actors take a 25 percent pay cut.

Anyone see that happening??

Nope - waiting for Tom Cruise to get on board and publicly support - Ain’t gonna happen!

Pretty soon, you'll be able to use AI to create your own personal movie/series.

Input a story line idea and a pop up list of questions comes up. Select what you are looking for, a rating, and any other features you are looking for. Utilizing stock images, an animation is created.

Not as far fetched as you might think. You can already have AI write a script.

OMG no new movies, how can we live without paying $15 to be told we are racist, homophobic, biggeted, hate filled, capitalist pigs?

Well we needed them to tell us this as otherwise how would we know?