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oldtimes 07-14-2023 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2235401)
You have to understand what actually hits the screen is usually decided by the people at the top. Not the actors or the writers. The business is also a gamble, I worked on jobs I though where only going to collect dust and became hits. I've worked on jobs where they were critically acclaimed and barely broke even. It's a crap shoot but when you hit, it pays off big time. No one really knows. Remember the Edsel, I'm sure who ever designed that believed it was going to dominate the auto industry.
These are fair points and I wish them well but I still think they are producing more Edsels than anything else.

maistocars 07-14-2023 01:12 PM
Good riddance I say!

Kelevision 07-14-2023 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by MandoMan (Post 2235193)
They joined the strike after the screen writers had already been on strike for a month or so instead of waiting for the writers’ strike to be over. I guess that’s striking while the iron is hot.
They didn’t “join” the strike. The writers went on strike when their contract was up and so did the actors. The directors contract was also up a couple of weeks ago but they chose to make a deal instead of strike. The actors were up June 30 and they extended one week hoping to make a deal.

Kelevision 07-14-2023 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by scooterstang (Post 2235334)
Only if it interferes with my daily dose of "the Young and Restless" they make all my troubles seem so small on that show! I have been watching since my mom was alive(25 years so far)
Well, then you remember the last writers strike when they started airing reruns. That’ll happen soon. You’ll get to see Victor young again.

Stu from NYC 07-14-2023 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2235486)
They didn’t “join” the strike. The writers went on strike when their contract was up and so did the actors. The directors contract was also up a couple of weeks ago but they chose to make a deal instead of strike. The actors were up June 30 and they extended one week hoping to make a deal.
Didnt know actors contract was up but whole thing not my problem.

Kelevision 07-14-2023 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Vermilion Villager (Post 2235269)
The actors are supporting the writers....they don't make $20 mil.:mornincoffee:
No, the actors aren’t supporting the writers by striking. Just like the writers contract was up last month, the directors contract was up 2 weeks ago ( we made a deal and didn’t strike) the actors contract was up June 30, they extended it by one week in hopes of making a deal but that didn’t happen. So now they’re striking.

Dlpdo 07-14-2023 02:36 PM
What a self centered question. Yes there are thousands of people who will miss them and care that they are on strike. I don’t mean the people that will have to wait a little longer to see the new episode of their favorite show. I mean numerous people whose livelihood depends on these people working. These people are now out of a job with no income coming in. But then as long as it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter.

Taltarzac725 07-14-2023 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dlpdo (Post 2235514)
What a self centered question. Yes there are thousands of people who will miss them and care that they are on strike. I don’t mean the people that will have to wait a little longer to see the new episode of their favorite show. I mean numerous people whose livelihood depends on these people working. These people are now out of a job with no income coming in. But then as long as it doesn’t affect you it doesn’t matter.
These blockbuster movies often hire thousands of people in the locations they are being filmed. So they do have quite an impact.

Not sure how many people the television productions hire but it would probably be quite a number for shows with a lot of scenery and special effects.

Kelevision 07-14-2023 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Taltarzac725 (Post 2235519)
These blockbuster movies often hire thousands of people in the locations they are being filmed. So they do have quite an impact.

Not sure how many people the television productions hire but it would probably be quite a number for shows with a lot of scenery and special effects.
Each tv show employees apporox 150 regular crew members during production and maybe 1/3 of them work through prep and wrap.

Blackbird45 07-14-2023 04:40 PM
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.

Caymus 07-14-2023 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2235566)
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.
If it is so hard, they should quit and obtained jobs in other industries.

Keefelane66 07-14-2023 05:45 PM
The last time the writers and actors went on strike at the same time was in 1960, when Ronald Reagan was president of the Screen Actors Guild.

Stu from NYC 07-14-2023 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Blackbird45 (Post 2235566)
There is a misunderstanding on what these contracts represent vs what stars and directors earn. Stars and directors negotiate their own contracts through agents. Some agreements are paid large sums of money up front others a percentage of the profits. The contracts only cover base salaries and working conditions. If you've ever worked on a film set, you will find for anyone other than the stars the working conditions are not ideal. Long hours, not the safest locations.
Do you believe all the actors and crew who work on the movie Rust enjoyed the location, the long hours and believed it was safe. The contract does pay a decent wage just because of the conditions and these are more or less freelance jobs. The filming is over, and you again are unemployed.
Nobody forces them to continue in this industry. They choose to for whatever reason.

Keefelane66 07-14-2023 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2235588)
Nobody forces them to continue in this industry. They choose to for whatever reason.
Most are skilled trades electrician plumber carpenters painters will be easy for them to transition to similar work. Filming crews, editors will have a harder time. End credits of a movies list jobs and names associated with production

Stu from NYC 07-14-2023 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Keefelane66 (Post 2235605)
Most are skilled trades electrician plumber carpenters painters will be easy for them to transition to similar work. Filming crews, editors will have a harder time. End credits of a movies list jobs and names associated with production
Do they really need all the people listed at the end of a film? From some articles I suspect there is some featherbedding going on.

Since films are such a high risk business do not understand why films cost such huge amounts.


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