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photo1902 10-10-2021 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015752)
Deflect? I responded to an actual post!

And I'd pay money to watch you try to stop your dog from peeing when on a walk...
Silly me. All of the dogs I owned used my yard.

Velvet 10-10-2021 10:34 AM
A little forwards planning. My neighbor across the street actually has mild dementia. He walks his dog around his front lawn until the dog goes. If the dog doesn’t, they go back inside. Eventually the dog tries again. As a reward (I suppose) they then go for a walk. But he also takes the dog to the dog park every day. On rainy days they have dog play dates with visitors. Those dogs are also expected to go in his yard.

Up north, if you go on people’s lawns trespassing laws apply. I do not know if that is the case in TV.

ThirdOfFive 10-10-2021 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015727)
And thankfully, you are in the majority...

Our home backs to a cul de sac, and the neighbors behind us have a very large side yard. When we first met them, we were in our yard, with our 12 lb Schoodle (pictured as my avatar)...

She started running around playing with us, and them, with a case of "the zoomies". At one point, she stopped in her tracks and decided to "off load", right on their yard. We profusely apologized and our new neighbors said, "Don't worry about it, just make sure you clean it up, she can run around out here whenever she wants..."

A few days later, they invited us over for drinks, and said "Bring Maggie, we love her!". As we were sitting on their lanai, Maggie jumped in the husband's lap for a belly scratch... She found a new friend... He was just as happy as she was...

We have other neighbors (not dog owners) who carry treats when they take a walk...

Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard...
"Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard... "

Now THAT bears repeating!!

Velvet 10-10-2021 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by ThirdOfFive (Post 2015762)
"Just be nice, just be respectful to your neighbors... It really isn't that hard... "

Now THAT bears repeating!!
As a dog owner… I hope that is what you meant. It’s not like the home owner is running out to assault you for letting the dog on their property, is it?

DaleDivine 10-10-2021 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by agjaret@aol.com (Post 2015556)
Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.
In their own yards. That's where mine goes...
:ohdear::ohdear:

golfing eagles 10-10-2021 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 2015559)
I love dogs. Don't have one. Where are people supposed to walk their dog? Not my problem and using my yard for a toilet is quite unacceptable. Who is engaging in the transgression here?
WALK them wherever. MAKE THEM GO POTTY ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY!

golfing eagles 10-10-2021 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by agjaret@aol.com (Post 2015556)
where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.
see post #86

DonnaNi4os 10-10-2021 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015479)
Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
When I was a kid the neighborhood played ball on our street. We had a neighbor who hid in her bushes and God forbid a ball went into her yard she would pounce out with it in her hands and announced that she wasn’t giving it back. We learned to avoid her as much as possible, but she was a sad, mean-spirited woman and we felt sorry for her. All I can say about someone who intentionally would turn on their sprinklers on a woman with dementi is that it is sad. They need to get a hobby and remember that this is supposed to be the “friendliest” community. As a dog owner, I make sure my dog does not go onto anyone’s lawn. It is a matter of respect. I have a neighbor who allows her dog to poop on my front yard. She is an elderly lady who is sweet. I don’t stay up at night dwelling on it and so I let it go. Life is short.

DaleDivine 10-10-2021 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 2015695)
Just like people who don’t like cherry ice cream… lol, in my opinion.
OH NOOOO. There's people that don't like cherry ice cream ?? How horrible.
My favorite...
:coolsmiley::a040::clap2:

Alana33 10-10-2021 11:44 AM
1. Maybe the poster or a neighbor of the sprinkler home could let them know the lady has dementia.
She might slip and fall on the wet surface and seriously injure herself.
2. The lady and her dog could walk on the other side of the street.
3. If the lady has dementia, she may get lost when walking her dog. The neighbors concerned about her could offer to walk with her or walk the dog for her.
4. If the poster of this thread is concerned enough to post about this maybe he/she could help rectify the situation.
Good luck.

Velvet 10-10-2021 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by DonnaNi4os (Post 2015780)
When I was a kid the neighborhood played ball on our street. We had a neighbor who hid in her bushes and God forbid a ball went into her yard she would pounce out with it in her hands and announced that she wasn’t giving it back. We learned to avoid her as much as possible, but she was a sad, mean-spirited woman and we felt sorry for her. All I can say about someone who intentionally would turn on their sprinklers on a woman with dementi is that it is sad. They need to get a hobby and remember that this is supposed to be the “friendliest” community. As a dog owner, I make sure my dog does not go onto anyone’s lawn. It is a matter of respect. I have a neighbor who allows her dog to poop on my front yard. She is an elderly lady who is sweet. I don’t stay up at night dwelling on it and so I let it go. Life is short.
You are absolutely right about someone intentionally turning the sprinkler on a person with dementia or any other handicap. The person with dementia needs help and the proper authorities should be called to help her.

I love the way people use “friendliest town” in general though. Don’t you? It is almost always used by people who do something aggravating or illegal and expect the others to be “friendly” (put up with it) about it.

valuemkt 10-10-2021 11:47 AM
This is where not having kids in the Villages is a problem. In any other neighborhood this bad actor neighbor would be the beneficiary of a good house egging, toilet paper sculpture and even a burning bag of dog poop on their doorstep.

DaleDivine 10-10-2021 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2015728)
Wifi jammer will do the trick.

They set up a ITTT (if this then that) routine with the ring motion function. Every time motion is detected then turn zone one on for two minutes.

Besides jamming the wifi you can shut off the irrigation or snap off the sprinkler heads. Certainly illegal but it will probably get the message across.

Flame away if you like. If I got sprayed for walking on the street they would suddenly have all sorts of problems.
Just don't get caught or YOU will have all sorts of problems...
:ohdear::ohdear:

HORNET 10-10-2021 12:15 PM
People just need to keep their animals off of other peoples property!!!!!

Rwirish 10-10-2021 12:42 PM
Feel stalked? I must be missing something.

village dreamer 10-10-2021 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by agjaret@aol.com (Post 2015556)
Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.
how about your yard

JMintzer 10-10-2021 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2015755)
Silly me. All of the dogs I owned used my yard.
Then you probably never took them for a walk...

Dennys37Packard 10-10-2021 02:03 PM
We occasionally walk our dog around our neighborhood too. But usually at night where there is not the hot road to hurt her paws. She is on a leash and we walk for her exercise, NOT to relieve herself, that is done in our yard before hand. We keep the leash short and adjust our walk path so she cannot reach others lawns. We feel that is disrespectful of others. Allowing dogs to walk on others lawn edges is inappropriate since it is in their nature to smell and many want to mark their territory.

JMintzer 10-10-2021 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaleDivine (Post 2015772)
In their own yards. That's where mine goes...
:ohdear::ohdear:
That's not "a walk"...

JMintzer 10-10-2021 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by golfing eagles (Post 2015777)
WALK them wherever. MAKE THEM GO POTTY ON YOUR OWN PROPERTY!
Make them? Do you own a dog? Yes, you can have the "do their business" before you set out for a walk. But if you're walking them for more than 15-20 minutes, they stop and do it again...

photo1902 10-10-2021 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015828)
Then you probably never took them for a walk...
Oh please. Now you’re stooping to “I’m a better dog owner than you”. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Rsenholzi 10-10-2021 02:19 PM
Sprinklers
 
I think the answer is easy- stay off the lawn. Being on a corner piece of property I resent all my neighbors walking their dogs on my lawn. I walk barefoot all the time and have stepped in poop repeatedly from those leaving poop on the lawn. There is no way you can clean up all the poop . Some is always left. I never walk my dogs on someone else’s property. Mine are trained to go before I leave, or when I come back. If they do have an accident off property it is in the street not on someone’s property. They pay big bucks to maintain their property and you should have respect for it. As far as I am concerned , it’s you that are the bad neighbor, not them.

JMintzer 10-10-2021 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 2015837)
Oh please. Now you’re stooping to “I’m a better dog owner than you”. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Nope. Just being a realist...

JMintzer 10-10-2021 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rsenholzi (Post 2015845)
I think the answer is easy- stay off the lawn. Being on a corner piece of property I resent all my neighbors walking their dogs on my lawn. I walk barefoot all the time and have stepped in poop repeatedly from those leaving poop on the lawn. There is no way you can clean up all the poop . Some is always left. I never walk my dogs on someone else’s property. Mine are trained to go before I leave, or when I come back. If they do have an accident off property it is in the street not on someone’s property. They pay big bucks to maintain their property and you should have respect for it. As far as I am concerned , it’s you that are the bad neighbor, not them.
Maybe you're stepping in your dog's poop, since "There is no way you can clean up all the poop. Some is always left"... Just a thought...

kkingston57 10-10-2021 03:01 PM
Have never heard of sprinklers which respond to movement. Concept seems ridiculous. If they exist, would make it a point to walk on other side of the street. If this problem escalates, need to audition for TV show, Love Thy Neighbor.

MDLNB 10-10-2021 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015628)
And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.

Actually, you can if you know a little about dogs. I trained dogs to go WHERE I wanted them to, and it was not hard at all. Cats certainly know how to use a litter box.

But, I understand how MOST folks in the villages do not KNOW dogs and do not understand how to handle them. It wouldn't take them much time to learn IF they really wanted to learn how to handle their pet.:doggie:

MaryShields 10-10-2021 03:46 PM
Troublesome neighbor.
 
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Originally Posted by Life as I know it (Post 2015543)
You did not state if the water from the sprinklers are going into the road spraying the walkers or just spraying onto the owners property. There are little signs that can be put out there that say “No dogs on lawn”.
Better et, just pretend there is a car parked in front of his house and walk around it.
Remember it is his property, not everyone loves dogs…..
Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!

MaryShields 10-10-2021 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelevision (Post 2015528)
It’s sad and unfortunate but there’s always a bad apple in the bag. I have 3 in my lovely neighborhood. Perhaps it’s because I’m picturing my neighborhood, which has no sidewalks so I would just walk on the other side of the street? I don’t understand how the water is hitting her unless it’s not hitting the actual yard?? Good luck. It does sound like it’s on some sort of auto sensor. Or maybe you really do have the worst neighbors.
No auto sensor. He watches from his garage and remotely activates the sprinklers as dog walkers stroll by. They spray way out into the street. No biggie, just a crummy neighbor.

Velvet 10-10-2021 04:16 PM
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Velvet 10-10-2021 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015876)
Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!
On the street? That is a big no, no. And unless this neighbor had a really traumatic incident in the past, if they have nothing better to do all day than watch who might walk by - with a remote in their hand, they really don’t have a life. Maybe a mental problem.

golfing eagles 10-10-2021 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2015833)
Make them? Do you own a dog? Yes, you can have the "do their business" before you set out for a walk. But if you're walking them for more than 15-20 minutes, they stop and do it again...
Yes, I own dogs continuously since I was 6 years old. Mine are trained to go at home.

MaryShields 10-10-2021 05:36 PM
Agreed

Rose Ann Vinci Igoe 10-10-2021 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015479)
Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
It really just sounds like the sprinklers are on Auto.... people are not going to sit by the window day after day to zip everyone who comes near their lawn. Some people do have this system on Auto. Don't take it personal, and assume. Just walk on the other side of the street, problem solved.. and you still have a good neighbor. You have to be pretty close or on the lawn for it to activate....Its not Personal...

CFrance 10-10-2021 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Rose Ann Vinci Igoe (Post 2015903)
It really just sounds like the sprinklers are on Auto.... people are not going to sit by the window day after day to zip everyone who comes near their lawn. Some people do have this system on Auto. Don't take it personal, and assume. Just walk on the other side of the street, problem solved.. and you still have a good neighbor. You have to be pretty close or on the lawn for it to activate....Its not Personal...
See posts #107 & 108

Taltarzac725 10-10-2021 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015879)
No auto sensor. He watches from his garage and remotely activates the sprinklers as dog walkers stroll by. They spray way out into the street. No biggie, just a crummy neighbor.
Someone should get the police involved wherever this is in the Villages. They are actually very good at diffusing bad situations most of the time especially here in the Villages. Just have whoever contacts them show some tact. You get more bees with honey....

Escape Artist 10-10-2021 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015479)
Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.
without intending it, you have started a firestorm of controversy on TOTV (as if it needs more of that). IMO, it's probably a motion detector sprinkler system - unless you see the person inside the house peering through the lace curtains as you walk by.

Of course, no one has lace curtains anymore, but back in the day, they were all the rage for elderly ladies, often times widows or spinsters, that liked to hide behind them and watch the world go by, and make note of comings and goings and any odd occurrences so they could gossip about it at the church bazaar or village bean supper. Maybe it was better that way rather than airing these grievances to strangers hiding behind aliases on a public message board.

The Caretaker 10-10-2021 07:35 PM
That is totally uncalled for. If you do not like dogs The Villages is not the place for you. We all sometimes need a companion and a person is not an option. Also dogs are great therapy for some. He should be shunned by the community. That is a shame!!!

MaryShields 10-10-2021 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Escape Artist (Post 2015926)
without intending it, you have started a firestorm of controversy on TOTV (as if it needs more of that). IMO, it's probably a motion detector sprinkler system - unless you see the person inside the house peering through the lace curtains as you walk by.

Of course, no one has lace curtains anymore, but back in the day, they were all the rage for elderly ladies, often times widows or spinsters, that liked to hide behind them and watch the world go by, and make note of comings and goings and any odd occurrences so they could gossip about it at the church bazaar or village bean supper. Maybe it was better that way rather than airing these grievances to strangers hiding behind aliases on a public message board.
Yes, our neighbors have observed him in the garage watching for dog poopers with his remote control. Get a life!

tophcfa 10-10-2021 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MaryShields (Post 2015876)
Just to clarify. He watches people walk their dogs and turns on the sprinklers with a remote. The water sprays out into the street. Not a huge deal, just not a very neighborly neighbor!
Hmmm, wouldn’t it be a shame if someone were to accidentally swerve their car when driving by his house and crush the sprinkler heads! I hate when that happens : )

MaryShields 10-10-2021 09:56 PM
Thanks much. Our other neighbors are the best! We all take care of each other



Thanks
all


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