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Old 10-10-2021, 07:13 AM
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since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.
A Case for WHAT? There is no Case here, there is no wrong doing. Turning on your sprinklers to keep someone from your property is not illegal.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:13 AM
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since the answers are "all over the road" (as usual) Here's the thing -

If it can be proved that every time (key phrase) someone sets foot in front of that house the sprinklers go on AND that it's vengeful, you have a case..

If it isn't every time then you have a$$h&&&s which gets handled differently - typically confrontation.

In order to prove this you'll need videos with time and date stamps over several days. Yes it's a lot of work, and people like this count on the fact that no one (especially here) will bother - however Ring has made this so very easy. You just need a Ring cam (any wifi motion activated cam will do) and it needs to be set up to trigger on that property and it's movement. one key factor to note is Ring is highly admissible where some cheap off brand may not be. Call it name notoriety

All this about where are the sprinklers pointing is BS nitpick junk, water in the road etc has ZERO bearing on this. You need to establish if this is purposeful.

I much prefer confrontation first, it might settle the reasoning portion. Also you know what you are dealing with and then it's easier to deal with.
Next season on CBS, "CSI, Sprinkler Investigation"...
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:20 AM
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Absolutely correct. Our dog is NEVER allowed to use someone else's yard. He uses only our back yard and we pick it up. Period. If we walk around Silver Lake, it gets picked up. Not everyone is courteous about that either and it's a shame. Walk your dog around your own yard, then take it for a friendly stroll to meet the neighbors.
And they'll still make a deposit along the way... Just make sure you pick it up...

The reality is, you cannot time when a dog does what a dog does...

One problem "non-dog owners" are missing is that when the sun beats down on the street, the temp can cause serious burns to a dog's feet. Try walking barefoot just off your driveway if you don''t believe me. Walking along the edge of the grass is the only safe place for them.

And I agree, those who don't clean up after their dogs are jerks.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:27 AM
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Here’s an idea…talk to the neighbor whose sprinkler goes off. We don’t seem to communicate with each other anymore. It could be a completely innocent thing and yet we take it to social media to make accusations.
It took 20 posts but best advice.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:34 AM
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people try to justify that it is ok as long as I pick it up? well, it is not. they won't accept that. and the excuses are great. "I'll pick it up." " there are no sidewalks", and on and on. they deliberately let their dog, go on other peoples property. my dog goes on his own lawn. if I walk him, and I think he is lining up for a big one, I make him do it on the street, and pick it up there. does anyone have a problem with my dog going on the street as opposed to someones private property, as long as I pick it up?
it's like the gun argument. it's not the gun, it's the person holding it. it's not the dog, it's the person holding it.
I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:43 AM
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People walk their dogs because it is necessary and fun for the dog. Walking on the concrete is cooler and, at least in the designer homes, you do not own the property from the curb to about 13 feet in. As to “forcing” a dog by pulling him out onto the road, yikes, nasty. Picking up after your dog is the issue. Address it politely and hope it works, then you can go further if it doesn’t.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:46 AM
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First off, let me say that I feel for disabled folks, and I am sorry if they end up with unpleasant surprises when they venture about UN-escorted.
That said, as far as anyone else is concerned I would not take issue if someone took a hose to a dog (and/or the dog owner)on their lawn.
Another note: I love animals and especially dogs, but I would NEVER allow my dog to go on someone else's property.

For those that have motion operated sprinklers, I would be interested in where you obtained them and how you like them.

What is totally rude and unacceptable is those that take their dogs for a walk and will allow them to defecate at their next door neighbors yard, right after leaving their own property. My neighbor has NEVER even once had their dog drop on their own lawn, never. As a matter of fact, my neighbor once asked me to let them know when I treated my lawn with any chemicals so that they would not injure their dog when it went on my lawn. Don't know about you, but that seems like someone is asking a bit too much.
Let me reiterate, I love animals. But, you have no right to use my lawn as a bathroom. I put quite a bit of money and effort into making my lawn look nice and do not wish to smell or step into landmines left by folks that refuse to allow their animals to dirty their own lawns. If that makes me a bad person, then I can live with it. As far as I am concerned, taking advantage of someone else's charity, generosity or just good nature is being an example of the substance left by their animals.
And for the dummy that walks (?) their dog by driving beside it in a golf cart while it is leashed, you do not deserve to own a pet and should be reported to the humane society. If you are disabled, then get someone to walk the dog for you. This is not National Lampoon's Vacation where people laugh at the sight.
Warning: Do not bother complaining to me if my sprinkler (that sprinkles my property) gets you wet if you are trespassing.
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Old 10-10-2021, 07:52 AM
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Where are people supposed to walk their dogs? There aren’t sidewalks.
There are voluntary dog areas that villagers designate as places to allow your dogs to empty when walking.
They are marked by white crosses in front yards.
Anyone wishing to join the scheme, just need to plant a white cross! .
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:06 AM
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We had one of them in our area, when they finally moved they went around and wrote up 29 house for violating the decoration standards. She also turned on sprinklers. We even tried to be nice to them complimented them on landscaping, but some people are just jerks.




QUOTE=MaryShields;2015479]Our neighbors need advice. We live in Monarch Grove and have a wonderful group of people living on our block of Gonzalez Lane. One of our neighbors is an issue. They watch people walking their dogs and remotely turn on their sprinkler system whenever people walk by. We have an elderly lady with dementia who regularly gets doused as she walks her small dog. Everyone is very respectful and picks up any dog poop. Our scared neighbors automatically move to the other side of the street. We feel stalked and sad.[/QUOTE]
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:07 AM
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I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.
. Wrong the easement. Is owned by the home owner you have easements all around your home. Does that mean I can walk my dog on the side of your house. No if you have any questions call ARC or your tax assessor.
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I agree that you shouldn't let your dog on other people's property.

If you are in the easement, you are not on "their" property though. While they may mow it, maintain it, sit on it, roll in it, etc., it's not theirs. They can't build on it or put anything permanent on it. They might think it's theirs, it ain't. The setbacks are a lot further back than most people realize.

I don't let my dog go into other folk's yards, so I'm not defending that behavior.

Turning on a sprinkler if people are walking past is something a real @33!@#$ would do. Karma has a way of costing people money though. Toggling it on and off all the time like that and the valves might stop working(rodents chewing the wires attracted by the cool water in the valves) and the heads might just fall apart, almost like someone hit them with a hammer.
the easement argument is an excuse. the easement is no excuse. you are trying to justify your dog crapping on someone else's property, and not on your own property. "it's not his property". nonsense. I would have my sprinkler on also with that mentality...
and going on the street is just as gross as someone else private property...
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:08 AM
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I think the message here is simple. the person is sick of other peoples dogs, crapping on their lawn. picking up is not the excuse for letting your dog do it. why can't the dogs, go on their own lawns? it is not ok to let them do it, and pick it up. I don't care what issues the people have. it is absolutley wrong. I say, water that lawn and if that is what it takes, then so be it.
and don't give me this easement crap either. there is no excuse...
Sad we have rude / unhappy people and do not like Animals. Many complaints never a answer for a question. Never seen my lawn die from pee. Old tale not true. If people pickup poop there no problem. The lady needs help. You might help the lady walking her dog and get her to walk to other side . I have a neighbor that sits outside all the time. My friends feel uncomfortable with the guy looking. Busybody of the neighborhood. We have many around TV. You need proof to have something done.
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:38 AM
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Yep this confirms that there are petty boring people here with nothing else to do but spy on neighbors walking their dog and someone waring to water their lawn. How dumb can one get?
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Old 10-10-2021, 08:40 AM
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They may have motion sprinkler which automatically comes on when detecting motion. I have it too, so animals will stay off the lawn, I think it’s a great idea. I’ve watered myself a couple of times when I forgot… it’s no biggy.
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OMG! Motion sprinklers, what a great idea to **** off the neighbors! Hopefully they also activate when it's raining.
I hope our new neighborhood is not like this! Unbelievable!!!!
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