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srswans 02-02-2025 08:30 AM

With leasing it is more difficult to determine if you are getting a good deal. The interest rate is hidden in the money factor. Depreciation is predicted at signing (residual value). Cash is generally required in the form of a security deposit and down payment. This gives the dealership more ways to sweeten the deal for itself.

That said, one can get good lease deals on some models and sometimes. It just takes more work on the buyers part.

nn0wheremann 02-02-2025 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2406177)
I agree. I have never made a car loan payment or lease payment in my life. When I couldn't afford a new car, I bought a used one. Like some car guy used to say, "drive a used car, everyone does".

My father used to say “Buy a used car, buy another man’s problem.”

A lease is just another loan, just without the down payment and with no prospect of acquiring equity.

MX rider 02-02-2025 08:34 AM

There's really no right or wrong here. We leased a new Honda Accord about 18 years ago and it worked out fine for us. Staying under the mileage limit and taking good care of the car is key when leasing.

I just bought a new Chevy Colorado. But If I was planning on getting a new vehicle every 3 years I would probably lease.

It can be a very good option for the right situation.
One last thing, make sure you really like whatever car you lease and will be happy with it for 3 years. Trading out of a lease is difficult and can be expensive.

Good luck!

wayneman 02-02-2025 09:58 AM

I hear you. But, paying cash is difficult when NEW vehicle prices are anywhere from $35,000 and up. You can invest that money. In 2024 my portfolio made 23%. Returns are not going to happen like that every year but it is something to consider when deciding to buy or lease.

biker1 02-02-2025 10:25 AM

For the same term, say 3 years, a loan payment will be higher than a lease payment. This is because for the loan payment you are essentially paying for the depreciation and the residual value of the car at the end of the term. With a lease payment, you are only paying for the depreciation at the end of the term. Yes, you will acquire "equity" with a loan but you have paid extra each month, over leasing, to acquire that "equity" (aka residual).

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2406383)
My father used to say “Buy a used car, buy another man’s problem.”

A lease is just another loan, just without the down payment and with no prospect of acquiring equity.


birdawg 02-02-2025 01:21 PM

Bought a new car in April 2018 have thirteen thousand miles that’s less then two thousand a year. The car still has that new car smell. Buy it probably will be your last car

RUCdaze 02-02-2025 03:26 PM

Bottom line, at least for me, is that leasing gives me the opportunity to drive a much more luxurious car than I could afford to buy outright.

mrf6969 02-02-2025 03:31 PM

Always way ahead of the game if you pay cash for the vehicle and then keep it for at least 8 years. Car/truck purchases are the worst investment one can make. Our 2017 Toyota is a fantastic vehicle and will keep it for years to come. We would rather spend money on travel.

CoachKandSportsguy 02-02-2025 04:10 PM

Owning a vehicle inexpensively:

rule # 1
vehicles are always future junk, so the only way to own a vehicle inexpensively is to buy a used car with low mileage within three years old.

rule # 2
keep it until the maintenance is more than oil and tires. These days, 10 years plus is easily doable.

rule # 3
no one cares what kind of car you have, as long as its safe when you are driving in some else's car.

Its always amazing to me what people pay and what people buy when dealing in future junk

FloridaGuy66 02-02-2025 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nn0wheremann (Post 2406383)
My father used to say “Buy a used car, buy another man’s problem.”

Likely in an era where the average lifespan of a car was well under 10 years.

Average lifespan of a new car in 1985: 7.5 years

Average lifespan of a new car in 2023: 12.5 years

These are just averages. If you stick to brands like Toyota you're going to get 15+ years.

bragones 02-02-2025 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CoachKandSportsguy (Post 2406540)
Owning a vehicle inexpensively:

rule # 1
vehicles are always future junk, so the only way to own a vehicle inexpensively is to buy a used car with low mileage within three years old.

rule # 2
keep it until the maintenance is more than oil and tires. These days, 10 years plus is easily doable.

rule # 3
no one cares what kind of car you have, as long as its safe when you are driving in some else's car.

Its always amazing to me what people pay and what people buy when dealing in future junk

New technology is worth paying for. My new vehicle will pull itself over if it detects that I’ve become unconscious, it will correct me if I swerve, and it will stop me both forward or backwards if I’m about to crash into an obstacle or person. Thankfully, I haven’t needed those features but nice piece of mind to know they are there. With a 6 year warranty, hoping it won’t be junk in that time frame, so no repair worries.

BrianL99 02-02-2025 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianL99 (Post 2406174)
Leasing has always been a more expensive way to buy a car.


That said, if you figure you're going to be making a auto-loan payment for the rest of your life, "leasing" will get you more car for your monthly payment. You can drive a Buick, for a Chevrolet payment.

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Originally Posted by RUCdaze (Post 2406533)
Bottom line, at least for me, is that leasing gives me the opportunity to drive a much more luxurious car than I could afford to buy outright.


Exactly right. That and tax consequences are really the only 2 reasons to Lease a car.

dewilson58 02-02-2025 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RUCdaze (Post 2406533)
Bottom line, at least for me, is that leasing gives me the opportunity to drive a much more luxurious car than I could afford to buy outright.

Please share the math. :oops:

Spartan86 02-02-2025 06:14 PM

A lot of educational info at LEASEHACKR.

dewilson58 02-02-2025 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Spartan86 (Post 2406572)
A lot of educational info at LEASEHACKR.

Funded by car dealers.


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