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Rodneysblue 09-10-2022 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2134449)
Flying these days sucks for many other reasons including frequent delays and cancellations, reduced schedules, long lines and lousy service, Covid risk, inflated prices, etc…. Fondly remembering the flying experience pre Covid and especially pre 9/11.

And let’s not for get the every shrinking leg and seat room. I remember flying with my dad back in the late 70s He was 6’4” and I 6’7”. Plenty of leg room, oh and my to mention the flight from Rochester, NY to Tampa included an actual hot meal. This was in Coach also. Airlines are jus a big money grab. They say they are in compliance, being able to off load passengers in a certain amount of time is all the need to comply with. They’d have us all standing if they thought they could get away with it.

ThirdOfFive 09-10-2022 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jparsoneau@aol.com (Post 2134896)
So not everybody who Uses a wheelchair at an airport needs one full-time. My mom uses I wheelchair to get to the airport strictly because she cannot get to one in from the other walking. She’s more than capable of walking 50 feet but not a couple miles from one end of the airport to the other. It doesn’t mean she’s faking it to get in the front of the line she just needs help. And not everybody who is handicap has a physical element that is physically visible from the outside. And yes you will always have somebody taking advantage of a situation. I heard you can even rent a handicap person to go to the theme parks cost you a couple hundred bucks +3rd ticket but you get to go to the front of the line all the time because of the handicap access at least you used to be able to a few years ago.

Some people are quite ingenious.

Some years back my wife and I were in Thailand. One day when riding the skytrain we saw a young girl with a baby lying in the grass adjacent to the station where we got off. The woman was Lao but Lao and Thai are mutually understandable and My wife who was born and raised in Thailand was able to converse with her. The girl had a jar for money next to her: she was unfortunately crippled from a car accident and was raising money so she and her baby could get back to Isaan. It was a pretty sad story. I gave her 100 baht. We went and did a few things, returning to the station about an hour later to find the girl and the baby gone. We asked a skytrain guard about it; he laughed and said that the girl was there every morning for a couple of hours, dropped off and picked up by her boyfriend. The baby, however, was different every day.

Turns out there are places in Bangkok where you can actually rent babies for just this scam!

Lea N 09-10-2022 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael G. (Post 2134409)
I have a daughter-in -law in a wheelchair.

Her and my son have been vacationing for many years between Mexico and the Dominican Republic.

They pack at least 3-4 large suitcases and until the last couple years, they had plenty of friendly help at the airport.

Now the last couple times they traveled there's no help with my daughter-in-law
and their luggage anywhere.

My son asks what was going on, and they said besides the lack of help, they also said people are buying wheelchairs just to get to the front on the TSA line.

Now how sick is that?

So much for the disability act.

That is SICK!!! There was a time I wouldn't have believed that, but I do believe it.
My husband is in a wheelchair. Even before he was I couldn't have imagined doing something like this. Or parking in handicapped parking spots, but that's another topic. I'm sorry this is happening to your son and daughter in law.

Lea N 09-10-2022 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2134691)
Service dogs, not "emotional support" dogs, should have license on their collar that is numbered and registered by the state. Anyone caught faking it does hard time and fines. Any company caught selling fake licenses is fined big and shut down with ceos getting prison.

This is a brilliant idea, which is exactly why it wouldn't fly.

B.Kauffman 09-10-2022 12:24 PM

“DisabilityAct”
 
I wouldn’t say “so much for the Disability Act” but would say so much for society! Shameful!

Dot Rheinhardt 09-10-2022 12:43 PM

Wheel Chairs
 
A irlines could require people who want to use whhel chairs to the gate to bring their handicap placard from the state. Those not needing assistance will not have one.

Carlsondm 09-10-2022 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kkingston57 (Post 2134650)
Bet over 90% of service dogs are fake. Brother had a real service dog. Dog had to have certain temprament, longevity and 18 months of training. Most so called service dogs appear to be for social purposes.

There are service dogs.and emotional support dogs. Are you sure service dogs is what you mean. Most have a high degree of training and special abilities.

JMintzer 09-10-2022 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by retiredguy123 (Post 2134772)
"May or may not be approved?" If you are referring to a handicapped parking permit, the permit is issued by the state. But, they depend entirely on a doctor signing the application form. I don't think that any applications, signed by a doctor, are ever denied.

Think again. I've had patients returning to my office for additional diagnoses to be added to the form...

fdpaq0580 09-10-2022 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Carlsondm (Post 2135048)
There are service dogs.and emotional support dogs. Are you sure service dogs is what you mean. Most have a high degree of training and special abilities.

Real service dog provide essential service for real handicaps. Fake service dogs are used by unprincipled scammers.
Emotional support dogs are just pets. All pets provide emotional comfort for their owners.

fdpaq0580 09-10-2022 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2135063)
Think again. I've had patients returning to my office for additional diagnoses to be added to the form...

Hopefully, if you know the request is bogus you refuse to sign. There should be a list of these folks so doctors can check to be sure they are not complicit in aiding these unprincipled scammers

JMintzer 09-10-2022 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2135072)
Hopefully, if you know the request is bogus you refuse to sign. There should be a list of these folks so doctors can check to be sure they are not complicit in aiding these unprincipled scammers

No, I don't falsify records or documents...

And a list? Where would said list be kept and maintained?

JMintzer 09-10-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2134691)
Service dogs, not "emotional support" dogs, should have license on their collar that is numbered and registered by the state. Anyone caught faking it does hard time and fines. Any company caught selling fake licenses is fined big and shut down with ceos getting prison.

LOL!

They don't even give "hard time" to those beating, maiming and killing people in the streets...

And the "companies" selling fake licenses don't have "CEOs"... They are small nobodies, scamming the system on ETSY...

fdpaq0580 09-10-2022 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2135086)
No, I don't falsify records or documents...

And a list? Where would said list be kept and maintained?

In the cloud. Seriously, I have no idea. It would help if one is going from doctor to doctor until they find one to sign for them.
And for the record, I never meant to imply involvement in anything untoward. My sincerest apologies if it was interpreted that way.
The fact remains that far to many people have placards, medications, etc, that they shouldn't have. They get the stuff from somewhere.

Woodbear 09-10-2022 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 2134832)
My orthopedic guy, who removed a bunch of bone chips/spurs from my arthritic elbow, was kind enough to fill out the medical need part of the special permit application so I can legally hunt with a crossbow in Massachusetts.

In NY, an amputee (missing arm) is not eligible for crossbow privileges during archery season. Those missing both arms/hands are granted a special use permit. I hate NY more every day.

JMintzer 09-11-2022 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2135107)
In the cloud. Seriously, I have no idea. It would help if one is going from doctor to doctor until they find one to sign for them.
And for the record, I never meant to imply involvement in anything untoward. My sincerest apologies if it was interpreted that way.
The fact remains that far to many people have placards, medications, etc, that they shouldn't have. They get the stuff from somewhere.

The cloud?

Are you familiar with HIPAA rules? There is no way it's legal to put patients on "a list"...

fdpaq0580 09-11-2022 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2135262)
The cloud?

Are you familiar with HIPAA rules? There is no way it's legal to put patients on "a list"...

😂😂 LOL. "The cloud" remark was meant as a joke and was followed up with, "seriously, I have no idea" where the "list" might be kept. Patients are one thing. People trying to pressure doctors to write prescriptions for drugs or handicap placards etc that are not needed are another thing.
I am not a doctor, but I wonder if there is concern about the abuse that goes on related to the placard and prescription med scams. If there is concern, what, legally and ethically can be, should be done? I don't have the answers, but it bothers me to see the scammers get away with abusing and misusing the help that is supposed to be provided to the ones who really need and rely on it. Sorry, something is broke, I can see that, but I don't know how it can be fixed.

JMintzer 09-12-2022 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fdpaq0580 (Post 2135435)
😂😂 LOL. "The cloud" remark was meant as a joke and was followed up with, "seriously, I have no idea" where the "list" might be kept. Patients are one thing. People trying to pressure doctors to write prescriptions for drugs or handicap placards etc that are not needed are another thing.
I am not a doctor, but I wonder if there is concern about the abuse that goes on related to the placard and prescription med scams. If there is concern, what, legally and ethically can be, should be done? I don't have the answers, but it bothers me to see the scammers get away with abusing and misusing the help that is supposed to be provided to the ones who really need and rely on it. Sorry, something is broke, I can see that, but I don't know how it can be fixed.

There has been a significant crackdown on "pill mills"...

If you have and EMR (electronic medical records) system, you can see what your patient has been prescribed in the past.

It is up to the doctor whether or not to fill write for anther prescription...

But handicap placards? No way, no how...

Caymus 09-12-2022 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JMintzer (Post 2135692)
There has been a significant crackdown on "pill mills"...

If you have and EMR (electronic medical records) system, you can see what your patient has been prescribed in the past.

It is up to the doctor whether or not to fill write for anther prescription...

But handicap placards? No way, no how...

Are handicap placards still requested at the same rate? Online shopping and store pick up must have reduced the need. Nationwide people can park close to the door even at once busy shopping malls.

JMintzer 09-12-2022 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Caymus (Post 2135710)
Are handicap placards still requested at the same rate? Online shopping and store pick up must have reduced the need. Nationwide people can park close to the door even at once busy shopping malls.

I never kept track of the number, but I'd guess I fill out forms for maybe 5-6/year...

Some of those are for renewals...

ThirdOfFive 09-12-2022 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Woodbear (Post 2135111)
In NY, an amputee (missing arm) is not eligible for crossbow privileges during archery season. Those missing both arms/hands are granted a special use permit. I hate NY more every day.

Heh. Sounds like Minnesota. Time was back there in L'Étoile du Nord, you could get a free season's fishing license when you turned 65. Today the threshold is age 90 and will probably go up from there.

juddfl 09-12-2022 09:10 PM

I've seen people get on first because they were in a wheelchair. When the plane landed, they grabbed their bag and walked past the attendant waiting to push them in the wheelchair. It seems they were cured while in flight.


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