[shut the front door]

Desantis for the win!
Royal Caribbean Makes Vaccines Optional for Passengers on Most Cruises | Travel + Leisure

Guess what, you don't like it? Don't go. They will be FULL.
If you got the vax, stop telling me to get one. If you believe in it and you got it, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS who else got it. On the other hand, if you don't really believe in it, and got it, keep clutching your pearls.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Desantis for the win!
Royal Caribbean Makes Vaccines Optional for Passengers on Most Cruises | Travel + Leisure

Guess what, you don't like it? Don't go. They will be FULL.
If you got the vax, stop telling me to get one. If you believe in it and you got it, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS who else got it. On the other hand, if you don't really believe in it, and got it, keep clutching your pearls.

And now for the rest of the story. An exception to the new policy is those boarding a ship to Alaska where the cruise line will still require guests 16 and older to be vaccinated, and 12 and older starting Aug. 1.story

And why is that - because RC is not the decision maker. Just this morning I posted a news item that Canada will require proof of vaccination for entry probably starting June 21st. Most of those cruises to Alaska stop at Vancouver. If you like hitting your head on a brick wall then you should be elated.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by rustyp

And now for the rest of the story. An exception to the new policy is those boarding a ship to Alaska where the cruise line will still require guests 16 and older to be vaccinated, and 12 and older starting Aug. 1.story

And why is that - because RC is not the decision maker. Just this morning I posted a news item that Canada will require proof of vaccination for entry probably starting June 21st. Most of those cruises to Alaska stop at Vancouver. If you like hitting your head on a brick wall then you should be elated.

RCCL has no Alaska cruises starting from a FL port. These ports are the ones DeSantis has influence over. Not Vancouver, Canada.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

RCCL has no Alaska cruises starting from a FL port.

And ? Nobody from Florida takes a cruise to Alaska ? Get on a plane - oh wait the vaccination rules have not been ironed out about that also especially international travel (which does include Canada). Looks to me your cruise universe without vaccination will be pretty small - at least to begin with. Cool a couple $ grand to leave a Florida port and stop at Royal Caribbean's make believe island.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by rustyp

And ? Nobody from Florida takes a cruise to Alaska ? Get on a plane - oh wait the vaccination rules have not been ironed out about that also especially international travel (which does include Canada).

The concern is about FL ports of embarkation. You can deflect on other ports which FL gov't. has no jurisdiction over if you feel better. You play games.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

The concern is about FL ports of embarkation. You can deflect on other ports which FL gov't. has no jurisdiction over if you feel better. You play games.

I did edit my original post to express my thoughts on why this is a "game" as you stated. It is not under Florida control at all. The ship has to meet the requirements of each country it will port in - including the crew. That will be a small universe to begin with. Now I can understand the reluctance of the younger people to get vaccinated but at our age why would you deny yourself from things on your bucket list ? How long do you have left ? This is going to take a long while to iron itself out rule wise worldwide. The vaccinated will be the preference children.

[Joe V.]

Originally Posted by rustyp

I did edit my original post to express my thoughts on why this is a "game" as you stated. It is not under Florida control at all. The ship has to meet the requirements of each country it will port in - including the crew. That's will be a small universe to begin with. Now I can understand the reluctance of the younger people to get vaccinated but at our age why would you deny yourself from things on your bucket list ? How long do you have left ? This is going to take a long while to iron itself out rule wise worldwide. The vaccinated will be the preference children.

I never said I was not vaccinated. I am against vaccine passports.

[rustyp]

Originally Posted by Joe V.

I never said I was not vaccinated. I am against vaccine passports.

And I understand. I am not disagreeing with you. Vaccine passports required by our own country is what many are considering against our civil liberties. However that is only good here in our little piece of the planet. Other countries have the right to make their own exit and entrance rules. I happen to have lived and still have a seasonal home on a border town. Most citizens here in the USA think we make the rules. Think again. I've watched people lose their boats for dropping an anchor a few feet over "boarder" while fishing.

[CosmicTrucker]

You are not fully informed as to what’s going on with cruising to Alaska. The government has granted a temporary exemption to the ship lines till next year so they can bypass a foreign port in order to sail from a US port (Washington) directly to Alaska

Originally Posted by rustyp

And I understand. I am not disagreeing with you. Vaccine passports required by our own country is what many are considering against our civil liberties. However that is only good here in our little piece of the planet. Other countries have the right to make their own exit and entrance rules. I happen to have lived and still have a seasonal home on a border town. Most citizens here in the USA think we make the rules. Think again. I've watched people lose their boats for dropping an anchor a few feet over "boarder" while fishing.

[Rwirish]

DeSantis has done a great job managing the vaccine. Unfortunately he missed “the boat” regarding vaccine passports.

[Pillowtalk]

NCL is fighting DeSantis in court on this. I have two cruises booked for 2022. Carnival and NCL. I will not be going on Royal Caribbean until they require proof of vaccination of everyone on the ship.
Why would anyone want to get on a ship with people who don’t care about the safety of everyone, just themselves?
I don’t think it will be good for Florida tourism to tell the world we don’t care about anybody but ourselves. The majority of the people have taken the vaccine, wore their masks in respect for others, followed the CCD guidelines, and stayed home for over a year.
It’s our time to enjoy, so maybe it’s time for the majority of us get to enjoy ourselves in a safe environment. Like you said if you don’t want to get on the ship, don’t go.

[Eg_cruz]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Desantis for the win!
Royal Caribbean Makes Vaccines Optional for Passengers on Most Cruises | Travel + Leisure

Guess what, you don't like it? Don't go. They will be FULL.
If you got the vax, stop telling me to get one. If you believe in it and you got it, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS who else got it. On the other hand, if you don't really believe in it, and got it, keep clutching your pearls.

You vaxxers crack me up. You jump through those hoops. I man made virus funded by the number one job nut telling us how to handle this virus and then encourages everyone to get vaccinated. I wonder who’s pocket this getting lined…..Life is easy walking around with your eyes closed…….

[matandch]

Hooray for Governor DeathSantis! Live Free and Die!

[collegeref]

We now know via Fauci masks are “phoney baloney”. Dance at City Fire/Squares or dance on a deck or ball room. Same risk. Recruit people who wear mask during a video conference with people thousands of miles away ������

[Two Bills]

Originally Posted by Rwirish

DeSantis has done a great job managing the vaccine. Unfortunately he missed “the boat” regarding vaccine passports.

How opinions change.
In the early days of the local vacine rollout chaos, the Govenor couldn't find a friend, but now that private enterprise has solved the supply and administration problems, he is hailed as a savior.
Funny old world!