[NoMoSno]

Originally Posted by jackiedenny

Totally agree. DeSantis is all about his journey to the White House. Doesn’t care about the rest of us.

Why are thousands allowed to cross the southern border un-vaccinated?
Coming from countries with high rates of the Brazilian variant.
I guess some don't care about the US citizens.

[Markers333]

Originally Posted by shut the front door

Desantis for the win!
Royal Caribbean Makes Vaccines Optional for Passengers on Most Cruises | Travel + Leisure


Guess what, you don't like it? Don't go. They will be FULL.
If you got the vax, stop telling me to get one. If you believe in it and you got it, it's NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS who else got it. On the other hand, if you don't really believe in it, and got it, keep clutching your pearls.

Non vaxers will have to show covid tests, and be subjected to test and temp checks, ship restrictions etc. Your choice, sail the easy way or the hard way.

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by OETTING

NY: 49% fully vaccinated, 57% partially.
FL: 40% fully vaccinated, 50% partially.

Neither deserves strong marks!

So it’s the Governor’s fault that some people are choosing not to be vaccinated with it being free and available to everyone?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Pillowtalk

NCL is fighting DeSantis in court on this. I have two cruises booked for 2022. Carnival and NCL. I will not be going on Royal Caribbean until they require proof of vaccination of everyone on the ship.
Why would anyone want to get on a ship with people who don’t care about the safety of everyone, just themselves?
I don’t think it will be good for Florida tourism to tell the world we don’t care about anybody but ourselves. The majority of the people have taken the vaccine, wore their masks in respect for others, followed the CCD guidelines, and stayed home for over a year.
It’s our time to enjoy, so maybe it’s time for the majority of us get to enjoy ourselves in a safe environment. Like you said if you don’t want to get on the ship, don’t go.

So, you don't have any faith in your vaccination? Did you get it solely based on an offer of a beer and a burger?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Girlcopper

Why? Because it violates your rights? Well, then stay home and I can exercise my right to stay healthy. Are children required to have certain vaccinations before they can attend school? YES. So unless you want to watch home videos of cruises instead of going on one just like unvaccinated children have to be home schooled......thats your right.

So, you do not have confidence in the vaccine? You think you will catch Covid from someone that has not been vaccinated? Or, do you believe that everyone without a legal document should stay home because you believe the gov should mandate gov papers? Just asking, because your post was not clear. I have my vaccination and do not worry about others having it or not. I don't get the flu shot and I have never been limited in my travels.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Jokomo

That’s simply not true. DeSantis made the vaccine available to his rich and powerful supporters before it became generally available in lower income areas. Short memories when it’s convenient to support another big lie.

That was debunked also.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by rustyp

Upon further investigation it appears this is a Desantis power play. If you watch this video by Royal Caribbean's CEO Royal Caribbean Group CEO explains thoughts on vaccines for cruise ships this summer - YouTube it appears RC is being held hostage to Desantis since the overwhelming number of their US ports are in Florida. The CEO elaborates on his desire of wanting all passengers vaccinated but is forced to play by "the law of the land" that Desantis just instituted. The CEO also elaborates that there will be special testing for non vaccinated plus additional on board restrictions for the non vaxers yet to be established.

Yes, because Youtube is soooo factual and accurate..........

[Pat2015]

Originally Posted by Rosebud1949

That should not be our only choice. On that basis... Make some cruises with ALL people VACCINATED.. Other Cruises that are vaccine optional. Then those of us who did "the right thing" cared about others, and followed the rules can cruise safely. May mean boarding in another state. You can thank DeathSantis for that.

The rest of you can go have a party and play Russian roulette with yours and the other cruisers health. As long as they fumigate the ship before we get on it GREAT, or keep ships separate. Why should those who follow the rules be penalized.

Have you considered that people who have been told by their doctor to not take the vaccine, and/or those who have chosen not to take the vaccine that’s not FDA approved; where 2 vaccines were pulled back for a time to be further studied; where one comes with a warning of blood clots for women under 50; one comes with a warning of some heart issues for younger people; and it’s also now been determined that those who take immune suppressant drugs and have been vaccinated are testing negative for COVID antibodies as if they’ve never been vaccinated. So, maybe what you say is “doing the right thing” is actually not getting vaccinated for some people. Not everyone wants to take part in the ongoing clinical study of the side effects and efficiencies of the vaccines, and I think that’s their right.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by skyking

I'm not concerned about getting the virus from the antivaxers. I'm concerned about them developing the virus while on board and everyone is then confined to their stateroom for two weeks.

No thanks.

Yes, and my concern is the ship hitting an iceberg.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Markers333

Non vaxers will have to show covid tests, and be subjected to test and temp checks, ship restrictions etc. Your choice, sail the easy way or the hard way.

When you get off the ship in other countries, will ALL the locals you meet have their covid vaccination? Will you require them to wear masks, if not? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Bertram00]

Originally Posted by merrymini

Your chances of dying are great indeed, since I know of no exceptions.
Your chances of dying of heart failure, cancer etc are much higher than the virus.
You can still catch the virus, even if vaccinated.
They stopped keeping track of vaccinated people who catch the virus because they do not want to know.
This vaccine has not be fully vetted, unlike many other vaccines that are required.
People give up their rights quickly, like a great many people posting here.
As to people who wish to order me about, you can go you know where.
Go DeSantis!

People gave up far more "rights" far more quickly in support of the Patriot Act. But don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Markers333

Non vaxers will have to show covid tests, and be subjected to test and temp checks, ship restrictions etc. Your choice, sail the easy way or the hard way.

Will the vaccinated be required to stay aboard IF everyone in port(the locals) are not vaccinated? If not, then why should fellow travelers that are not vaccinated worry you?

[Byte1]

Originally Posted by Bertram00

People gave up far more "rights" far more quickly in support of the Patriot Act. But don't let facts get in the way of your narrative.

Is covid related to the Patriot Act?

[Bertram00]

Originally Posted by NoMoSno

Why are thousands allowed to cross the southern border un-vaccinated?
Coming from countries with high rates of the Brazilian variant.
I guess some don't care about the US citizens.

"But, but, but..."
Typical deflection.

[Bertram00]

Originally Posted by Byte1

So, you don't have any faith in your vaccination? Did you get it solely based on an offer of a beer and a burger?

On the contrary, I have faith in my vaccination, what I don't have faith in is my cruise vacation not being ruined by an outbreak among the non-vaxxers causing restrictions and loss of ability to visit ports-of-call I'm looking forward to.