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CFrance 06-14-2019 10:46 AM

Just so you won't feel like an "embarrassment" for being vegan but eating food that tastes like meat.

From The Guardian US edition:

Most of the meat people eat in 2040 will not come from slaughtered animals, according to a report that predicts 60% will be either grown in vats or replaced by plant-based products that look and taste like meat.

The report by the global consultancy AT Kearney, based on expert interviews, highlights the heavy environmental impacts of conventional meat production and the concerns people have about the welfare of animals under industrial farming.

“The large-scale livestock industry is viewed by many as an unnecessary evil,” the report says. “With the advantages of novel vegan meat replacements and cultured meat over conventionally produced meat, it is only a matter of time before they capture a substantial market share.”

Here's the whole article, although I'm not sure you can read it without signing up for a (free) account:
Most 'meat' in 2040 will not come from dead animals, says report | Environment | The Guardian

vintageogauge 06-14-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by justjim (Post 1656997)
OP, plant based foods and burgers are likely what your grandkids are talking about. There are several veggie type burgers at the grocery and some have found there way into restaurants. Burger King has a plant based burger in some of their restaurants and I have seen in the last couple of months “impossible meat” offered in a couple of Mexican grill restaurants. There has been research that claim you can reverse some heart related issues (closed arteries) by eating a plant based diet. Doctor Dean Ornish and his associates have been conducting this research for several years and proven plant based foods and a lifestyle with 30 minute a day exercise can make a difference with cardiac patients. Dr.deanornish.com

I've noticed that everything the experts say will help with your heart, lungs, weight, etc. is in addition to exercise programs. I would assume a 30 minute daily exercise routine would would work just as well without eating plant based food. In reality very few people exercise 30 minutes per day.

Two Bills 06-14-2019 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DAVES (Post 1657214)
All you need do is suspend your prejudice and look at the digestive system of the animal. A cow is designed to digest a bulky with little nutrition diet-grass. To do this it has three stomachs. A rabbit another herbivore and another odd but effective solution. It puts out different forms of stool. One of them it picks out, you can see the difference, and it re-eats them-sends them through again. The human is by design an omnivore. You do best on a diet of meat and vegetables.

As to fake meat. See the obvious. While I've not tried it, I have read about it. Realize it looks something like meat and tastes something like meat-hum, your body is telling you something.
Also, from what I've read it is not particularly good for you-high in fat and salt.

I have no idea what cows and rabbits digestive systems have to do with me slipping my cousins dog a few bits of meat, but thank you for the information.

xcaligirl 06-15-2019 11:55 AM

100% true. But do the kids think about the trees being KILLED???? OMG!!! Amazing of what they believe....

Arctic Fox 06-15-2019 01:23 PM

Talking of "false meat, I hate Spam, but many Pacific islanders love the stuff. Try feeding that to Taylor and Hunter :-)

manaboutown 06-15-2019 02:28 PM

IMHO fake food is manufactured food. Frankly, I prefer to eat fresh fruits, vegetables, eggs, milk. chicken, red meat and fish. It is healthier and tastes better to me without all the salt, monosodium glutamate, corn syrup, chemical preservatives, etc..

retiredguy123 06-15-2019 02:45 PM

In my opinion, fake food is food that is pretending to be something else or claiming to taste like something else. If you serve a veggie burger and claim that it tastes like a beef hamburger, that is fake food. Other fake foods are crab salad made from fish, low calorie frozen pizza, Arby’s roast beef, low fat cheese, low fat ice cream, etc. None of these products taste like the real thing. But, I don't consider SPAM to be fake food because it is what it is and everybody knows what it is.

Chatbrat 06-17-2019 07:06 AM

I'll start believing in PETA, when they replace all their teeth that are not molars with molar implants-- now they can be true vegetarians

Halbraun 06-17-2019 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Two Bills (Post 1657690)
I have no idea what cows and rabbits digestive systems have to do with me slipping my cousins dog a few bits of meat, but thank you for the information.

Now there is some irony.. not sure what feeding your cousins dog meat scraps had to do with the OP’s post about plant based burgers.. but thanks for the story. :icon_wink:

Boomer 06-17-2019 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by cfrance (Post 1657661)
just so you won't feel like an "embarrassment" for being vegan but eating food that tastes like meat.

From the guardian us edition:

Most of the meat people eat in 2040 will not come from slaughtered animals, according to a report that predicts 60% will be either grown in vats or replaced by plant-based products that look and taste like meat.

The report by the global consultancy at kearney, based on expert interviews, highlights the heavy environmental impacts of conventional meat production and the concerns people have about the welfare of animals under industrial farming.

“the large-scale livestock industry is viewed by many as an unnecessary evil,” the report says. “with the advantages of novel vegan meat replacements and cultured meat over conventionally produced meat, it is only a matter of time before they capture a substantial market share.”

here's the whole article, although i'm not sure you can read it without signing up for a (free) account:
most 'meat' in 2040 will not come from dead animals, says report | environment | the guardian



:22yikes: SOYLENT GREEN!! barf

CFrance 06-17-2019 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Boomer (Post 1658349)
:22yikes: SOYLENT GREEN!! barf

I thought that was the kind of grass in our lawn. Oh wait...:icon_wink:

airstreamingypsy 06-17-2019 09:09 AM

Sad that your grandchildren are trying to get you to make healthy choices, and your response is to sit down and write a message humiliating them. Be glad they care enough for you, to take the time to write. That's what you should have taken away from their concern.

Lcbeasley418 06-17-2019 09:20 AM

I'm not a vegetarian, but LOVE Boca brand "burgers." They're made from black beans. They're in every grocer's freezer section. My friends love them too, and not one vegan in the crowd. I've tried other brands and agree, they suck. Try Boca original with lettuce, tomato, mayo, etc. Cook til it starts to brown. They also offer protein since they're made with black beans. I love pulled pork, a good fillet mignon, etc. But I also like a good Boca burger.

Byte1 06-17-2019 10:08 AM

Impossible meat? Different strokes for different folks. I've tried different fake foods and none of them are as good as the real deal. That said, eat what you want but DON'T insist that I change my lifestyle or eating habits. My old dad was a meat and potatoes guy and lived into his 90's before he got bored and decided to give up shooting for 100. Sure, I have eaten meatless lasagna, margarine instead of butter, but let's face it the real deal is the best. If eating meat and dairy products limit my lifespan to the 90's, I guess I would rather live happy than to live long and miserable. Eat what you wish, but don't force me to change. I do not read the fat or sugar content on labels either.

Sumitch5041 06-17-2019 11:08 AM

Impossible Burger
 
It is time for TV to step into the future & offer food for everyone, even those who are not conventional eaters. I happen to love both the Impossible burger as well as the Beyond Burger. 80%of diseases as well as obesity are caused by what we eat. Everyone is on medication today to control their med issues & they go on very happily eating the things that have made them sick-Which is fine for them. But for those of us that are on 0 meds, are a healthy weight & want a healthier option that is NOT salad, then why not give us some real food options?

BostonRich 06-17-2019 11:32 AM

Just wait until these well intention people realize that these "new" plants are genetically modified and these new burgers aren't healthy at all with ingredients like bad-for-you coconut oil.

Yosemite 06-17-2019 04:06 PM

The good news is that the OP and most Villagers have no idea what Beyond Meat and the Impossiible Burger are all about and are not interested in investigating these new foods. These items are in short supply and there will be more available for those of us that enjoy having these options available. I seriously doubt that the OP and most of the people commenting here have ever tasted either of these products. And, meat eaters have shorter life spans, so, more tee times for the rest of us.

Nell57 06-17-2019 09:47 PM

This is food for people who are vegetarian. It is high in protein with lots of great flavor. I eat them a lot....low in fat and calories. Don’t feel threatened by your children’s food choices. When you’re with them try something new.

manaboutown 06-17-2019 11:03 PM

Humans have evolved to eat natural foods, not manufactured food products. The longest life expectancies occur in "The Blue Zones", where people eat natural foods, and get plenty of exercise out in the fresh air, even though medical facilities may be limited. if I want to eat beans I will eat beans, not manufactured bean burgers.

ColdNoMore 06-18-2019 05:55 AM

It seems to be past time...to get back to actual facts.

By definition, the non-meat items described in this thread...are far from "fake food." :oops:

Definition of "Food." (Chew Here)


Quote:

noun

-any nourishing substance that is eaten, drunk, or otherwise taken into the body to sustain life, provide energy, promote growth, etc.

-more or less solid nourishment, as distinguished from liquids.

-a particular kind of solid nourishment: a breakfast food; dog food.

-whatever supplies nourishment to organisms: plant food.

-anything serving for consumption or use



If a vegetarian item is claiming to be real meat, that would be "fake."..but it's still "food."

Even 'imitation crab'...is still "food."
:ohdear:

ColdNoMore 06-18-2019 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by airstreamingypsy (Post 1658371)
Sad that your grandchildren are trying to get you to make healthy choices, and your response is to sit down and write a message humiliating them.

Be glad they care enough for you, to take the time to write. That's what you should have taken away from their concern.

:agree:


Once again proving though..."no good deed goes unpunished." :ohdear:

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-18-2019 08:38 AM

Ingredients of impossible burger: soy protein, potato protein, coconut oil, sunflower oil, and heme (an iron-based plant and animal byproduct). So it's not even actual potatoes, or actual soy. It's all overprocessed chemically-extracted additives. There's also wheat gluten in it, which means anyone with gluten intolerance needs to shop elsewhere. They can't even have the patty on a plate with no bun, like they can with actual meat.

hilcheyb 06-18-2019 09:18 AM

I did not claw my way to the top of the food chain to eat grass and leaves!

hilcheyb 06-18-2019 09:26 AM

Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. GENESIS 9:3

hilcheyb 06-18-2019 09:28 AM

Teach them what God has told us, "Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." GENESIS 9:3

Chi-Town 06-18-2019 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by hilcheyb (Post 1658616)
Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things. GENESIS 9:3

That green herb increases the meat consumption. [emoji6]

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justjim 06-18-2019 07:54 PM

Choices
 
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Originally Posted by Byte1 (Post 1658388)
Impossible meat? Different strokes for different folks. I've tried different fake foods and none of them are as good as the real deal. That said, eat what you want but DON'T insist that I change my lifestyle or eating habits. My old dad was a meat and potatoes guy and lived into his 90's before he got bored and decided to give up shooting for 100. Sure, I have eaten meatless lasagna, margarine instead of butter, but let's face it the real deal is the best. If eating meat and dairy products limit my lifespan to the 90's, I guess I would rather live happy than to live long and miserable. Eat what you wish, but don't force me to change. I do not read the fat or sugar content on labels either.

I agree, individual food choices that’s what it’s all about. When you look in a grocery, there are many choices today that didn’t exist just a few decades ago. “The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next”. Abraham Lincoln. Perhaps this may include what is taught about food choices too. Just saying...

ColdNoMore 06-18-2019 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chi-Town (Post 1658628)
That green herb increases the meat consumption. [emoji6]


And Cheetos consumption.

And pizza consumption.

And Twinkie consumption.

And.....

OrangeBlossomBaby 06-18-2019 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ColdNoMore (Post 1658737)

And Cheetos consumption.

And pizza consumption.

And Twinkie consumption.

And.....

...not that you'd know anything about that.
:boxing2:

Two Bills 06-19-2019 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Halbraun (Post 1658340)
Now there is some irony.. not sure what feeding your cousins dog meat scraps had to do with the OP’s post about plant based burgers.. but thanks for the story. :icon_wink:

This is TOTV!
The title of any post is just a guidline, until The Exterminator moves in.
You must keep up. The subject has now morphed to the book of Genesis!
Mind you, when they became a band I thought they were a bit overated! :icon_wink:

Velvet 06-19-2019 11:23 AM

Many people are guided as to what they can eat by religion. The Hindus and cows, the Muslims and pork etc but as far as fake food goes, it’s just another choice in my opinion. When husband brings it home (he likes to experiment) even the cat doesn’t touch it.

Two Bills 06-19-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1658844)
Many people are guided as to what they can eat by religion. The Hindus and cows, the Muslims and pork etc but as far as fake food goes, it’s just another choice in my opinion. When husband brings it home (he likes to experiment) even the cat doesn’t touch it.

Cats are really intelligent!

ColdNoMore 06-24-2019 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Jazuela (Post 1658748)
...not that you'd know anything about that.
:boxing2:


Not these days.

Now back in high school though...... :D

From what I've read however, the potency these days is much greater...than the harsh tasting stuff back in the late 60's/early 70's.

When it comes right down to it though, I would much rather be around those who are smoking/eating pot and just want to mellow out while craving munchies... any day...over the drunk who wants to fight everyone after a couple of drinks. :oops:



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