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Toymeister 11-05-2024 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2384462)
We have learned to make it with mostly whole wheat flower. Found the way to get it lighter is to do the first rise about 3 hours and second at least 90 minutes.

Try adding gluten powder at one teaspoon per cup of whole wheat flour. It is available on Amazon.

CFrance 11-05-2024 05:44 PM

Three things I loved about living in Michigan: Fall, Sunday football, kneading bread by hand.

thelegges 11-05-2024 06:20 PM

Always by hand. Granny said it was the best way to work out anger, sadness, kind of like a living stress ball. She found that arthritis in her hands, wasn’t as big a deal, as her sisters had.

I do have a super expensive bread machine that is still in the box, somewhere.

Stu from NYC 11-05-2024 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2384471)
Try adding gluten powder at one teaspoon per cup of whole wheat flour. It is available on Amazon.

What will that do?

thelegges 11-05-2024 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2384479)
What will that do?

Adds protein, changes texture and sometimes does change the flavor. If your are adding nut to wheat like a wheat berry, will help stabilize the bread.

Stu from NYC 11-06-2024 09:52 AM

Does it help with dough rising?

sdeikenberry 11-06-2024 11:09 AM

I use my Kitchenaid with dough hook. My process is two days. Poolish starter 24 hr ferment in fridge, finish dough at 60% hydration, and another 16 hr in fridge, then form, rise, and bake.

asianthree 11-06-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2384558)
Does it help with dough rising?

Rising is technique, age of yeast, temp of room, and , patience as to when you punch down, and allow to proof again

Toymeister 11-06-2024 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Stu from NYC (Post 2384558)
Does it help with dough rising?

Yes. The extra gluten traps more gas resulting in a higher rise.

"Because it’s almost pure gluten, a little goes a long way to improving the elasticity and rise of the raw dough and the crumb and chewiness in the final loaves. Most baking sources recommend about one tablespoon for every 2-3 cups of flour."

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Stu from NYC 11-06-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 2384601)
Rising is technique, age of yeast, temp of room, and , patience as to when you punch down, and allow to proof again

We have learned to making bread as an all day affair. Will give gluten a try to see if we can make the bread lighter.

Stu from NYC 11-06-2024 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Toymeister (Post 2384629)
Yes. The extra gluten traps more gas resulting in a higher rise.

"Because it’s almost pure gluten, a little goes a long way to improving the elasticity and rise of the raw dough and the crumb and chewiness in the final loaves. Most baking sources recommend about one tablespoon for every 2-3 cups of flour."

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Thank you will give it a try

jacksonla 11-06-2024 06:17 PM

teach me!

OrangeBlossomBaby 11-06-2024 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jacksonla (Post 2384648)
teach me!

It's mostly just a matter of following the recipes. If you make an egg bread (like the challah I make), I recommend large brown eggs, brought to room temperature on the counter before cracking open. Or eggs fresh from the farm, which were never refrigerated in the first place. Just make sure to wash them off before cracking them.

Also I use granulated yeast, some folks prefer yeast cakes, and some even like the quick-rise yeast.

Always cover the bowl with a MOIST dish towel before setting it out to rise. Just wet a quarter of the towel, fold it in half a few times and wring it well to get that small amount of water spread well over the whole thing, and not saturated.

Be patient when you let it rise. The recipes always say "doubles in size" but you won't really know if it's double or not without removing the towel. So just assume it's an hour. If it goes more than double the size it's fine, it won't hurt the dough.

Use all-purpose flour. You can use half white and half whole wheat, but a fully whole wheat challah requires different proportions of ingredients to bake properly. Baking is a science as much as it is an art.

For challah, you absolutely MUST coat the braided raw dough with an egg wash. If you don't, it won't bake properly AND it won't have that beautiful shiny outer crust that it should have. The eggwash helps seal in the moisture as it bakes. A good challah is dense, yeasty, yellow in color rather than white, and has a naturally sweet-ish aftertaste to it.

DAVES 11-07-2024 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2384444)
From Google's AI thingie:



Baking and gardening are both "zen" activities for me.

The recipe uses 6 cups of flour and 5 eggs, and the risen dough sticks out of a 3.5-quart mixing bowl like a muffin top. The smell permeates the entire house, the lanai, and the porch out front for several hours. It's hypnotic. I think people are really missing out on one of the most joyful "simple pleasures" in life, when they use bread machines. There's really nothing quite like kneading dough.

You are welcome to come over to weed. Be sure to bring some warm bread AND WE WON'T EVEN CHARGE YOU.

SoCalGal 11-07-2024 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rainger99 (Post 2384381)
No. I don’t think I have ever even tasted gluten-free bread.

It's awful. Anything gluten-free is substandard.


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