[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Originally Posted by tophcfa

The title of this thread is incorrect, the self quarantine requirement is not for people who have been in New York City. It is for all people arriving to Florida on a plane that took off from an airport in the states of New York, New Jersey, or Connecticut. We have not been to NYC for many years, and if I get my way I will never go there again. We also don’t live in any of these three states, we live in an extremely rural part of western Massachusetts where we can stay home for an entire weekend without a car going by our driveway. However, this restriction effects us since the only airport close to us, that has direct flights to Orlando, is in Windsor Locks, Connecticut. I understand the need to be safe and we don’t want to fly anytime soon, but this restriction is not well thought out and is ridiculous. What if there was an emergency that required us to get to our Villages home, how could we even get from the airport to our home and then pick up some food while in self isolation? The Florida governor screwed up big time by not closing spring break venues and is now overcompensating to try to save face.

You could drive. It'd take you less than 2 days if you take turns driving and only stop for meal, bathroom, and gas breaks.

This is about dozens of people, none of whom have been *medically* screened, climbing into an enclosed air-tight cabin with recycled air for several hours and then released elsewhere to do whatever damage their germy little selves can do. Multiple times per day, nationwide (in our case - in Florida).

If it's an emergency:

your house won't stop burning down because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

your mom won't stop dying because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

your cat won't cease to be lost because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

There is no emergency in Florida, that won't either resolve, or continue, by the time you can a) get to an airport, b) find a flight that's actually going there, c) wait for that flight, d) arrive in the Florida airport, e) acquire transportation from the airport to your house.

If your house blows away in a tornado, it'll continue to cease to exist while you drive down to inspect the damage.

And in the meantime, you won't be exposed to who knows how many people that might be infected and not even know it yet...

and in the meantime, you won't infect everyone in the airport when you get off the plane - and THEY won't infect their families when they get home...

all because - Florida asked you to self-quarantine for 14 days if you come off a flight that flew out of NY, NJ, or CT.

Pretty simple really. It's not that big of a deal. Not even if it's an emergency.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by Bill32

I,m on my 3rd week of isolation and inspite of those not isolating i'll stay isolated until we get the " all clear" So far not that bad...

Me too, but it is getting difficult mentally to deal with it. Sometimes I feel like I'm in jail. Other times it's just boring to stay at home day after day. I hope this will be over soon but I don't really think it will. I continue to do it because I am afraid to get the virus.

[rmd2]

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby

You could drive. It'd take you less than 2 days if you take turns driving and only stop for meal, bathroom, and gas breaks.

This is about dozens of people, none of whom have been *medically* screened, climbing into an enclosed air-tight cabin with recycled air for several hours and then released elsewhere to do whatever damage their germy little selves can do. Multiple times per day, nationwide (in our case - in Florida).

If it's an emergency:

your house won't stop burning down because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

your mom won't stop dying because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

your cat won't cease to be lost because you got there in 6 hours instead of 30 hours.

There is no emergency in Florida, that won't either resolve, or continue, by the time you can a) get to an airport, b) find a flight that's actually going there, c) wait for that flight, d) arrive in the Florida airport, e) acquire transportation from the airport to your house.

If your house blows away in a tornado, it'll continue to cease to exist while you drive down to inspect the damage.

And in the meantime, you won't be exposed to who knows how many people that might be infected and not even know it yet...

and in the meantime, you won't infect everyone in the airport when you get off the plane - and THEY won't infect their families when they get home...

all because - Florida asked you to self-quarantine for 14 days if you come off a flight that flew out of NY, NJ, or CT.

Pretty simple really. It's not that big of a deal. Not even if it's an emergency.

The main problem is that there are too many of them, they are infected and based on interviews at the airport there is a very high probability they will not be self quarantined. So they will exponentially spread the corona virus to the rest of the residents inThe Villages via Publix, Walmart, gas stations, Lowes, etc.

[Koapaka]

Originally Posted by Marvic 1

The Villages need to STOP issuing Visitors Pass until things get back to normal....
Especially those coming here from New York and staying with Grandma'.

Agree, but there are a few considerations you have not addressed above:

#1---those that own here and are not in need of "visitor pass"

#2---Those that have homes sitting vacant normally this time of the year and would LOVE to see $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ from those that are trying to "escape" high infection areas. Do you really think that if a potential renter paying to escape that owner would decline????

[Velvet]

Why would people escaping death from NY not self isolate? The main reason I can think of is food and supplies, as long as they can get food (especially) delivered, they will likely isolate. No one knows how important it is to isolate than the “refugees” from the virus.

Delivery! Very important these days. Will help us all isolate.

[Chatbrat]

Self isolation or quarantine is BS, the same way spring breakers kept social distancing--the majority of the cases in Fl are TRAVEL related--quanrantine without a means of enforcement is useless

[GoodLife]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Self isolation or quarantine is BS, the same way spring breakers kept social distancing--the majority of the cases in Fl are TRAVEL related--quanrantine without a means of enforcement is useless

Nope, according to Florida Health Covid 19 dashboard, majority of cases are not travel related, may have started that way but not now. Click on each county to see stats.

Experience

[Heyitsrick]

I'm curious about the "Delivery" mantra people use here and elsewhere. Yes, I know that would work for some, but I just checked a quick stat that said in 2018, there were 129,000 residents of the various Villages. Delivery isn't going to do it for the masses.

[coffeebean]

Originally Posted by RoVer

Self-isolation means staying indoors and completely avoiding contact with other people. You do that by ordering your groceries delivered from Publix on-line. The delivery person leaves them at the garage door and after he/she is gone you retrieve the stuff with gloves and mask on and throw out the plastic before wiping down whatever you bought and taking it in. Use Clorox solution if possible. You don't keep your doctor's appointment, or any appointment. You stay inside the house and don't answer the door if somebody knocks. If your yard is fenced you let your dog out on its own. If you must walk your dog you do it at some odd hour in the night when you won't encounter others. If you don't do these things there is a high probability you will die, so it seems worth the effort. They've proven the virus can hang in the air. If you walk into a room 20 minutes after an infected person walked through it, you can breathe in the virus. If everybody stays home in The Villages we can defeat The Virus. I've been indoors going on 3 weeks now, getting lots accomplished. It's easy. Relax.

Seriously? Then why does the CDC and our government allow people to go to grocery stores, pharmacies and other needed services? They allow us to pick up food at restaurants. If what you say is true, then we are all at risk even if we are diligent with 6 feet social distancing.

[Tom1916]

I would decline, Don't want my house infected.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by coffeebean

Seriously? Then why does the CDC and our government allow people to go to grocery stores, pharmacies and other needed services? They allow us to pick up food at restaurants. If what you say is true, then we are all at risk even if we are diligent with 6 feet social distancing.

I believe we are at risk when we go to the grocery store and use delivery. Someone handled the lettuce and it could have the virus and would be unsafe to eat unless you boiled it. The government can only do so much. We have to use our common sense too. Whatever you touch and eat you need to think about who touched it before and are they sick and do not yet know it? That sounds paranoid but we are talking about a tiny, dangerous entity that we cannot see. A very new enemy.

[Jima64]

Yesterday in Jacksonville the medical people intercepted a Ny plane and tested a recent positive person from NY. He said he thought his symptoms had lessened and he could travel. He again tested positive. This is why the people travelling from the northeast need to be tested. We have enough problems with people not being careful.

[Villageswimmer]

Originally Posted by Jima64

Yesterday in Jacksonville the medical people intercepted a Ny plane and tested a recent positive person from NY. He said he thought his symptoms had lessened and he could travel. He again tested positive. This is why the people travelling from the northeast need to be tested. We have enough problems with people not being careful.

Would’ve been nice if all passengers were checked BEFORE boarding the plane.

[TexaninVA]

Originally Posted by rmd2

The main problem is that there are too many of them, they are infected and based on interviews at the airport there is a very high probability they will not be self quarantined. So they will exponentially spread the corona virus to the rest of the residents inThe Villages via Publix, Walmart, gas stations, Lowes, etc.

Exactly right.

[stan the man]

Originally Posted by graciegirl

I believe we are at risk when we go to the grocery store and use delivery. Someone handled the lettuce and it could have the virus and would be unsafe to eat unless you boiled it. The government can only do so much. We have to use our common sense too. Whatever you touch and eat you need to think about who touched it before and are they sick and do not yet know it? That sounds paranoid but we are talking about a tiny, dangerous entity that we cannot see. A very new enemy.

Oh Gracie good to have back. Missed your great advice.