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UseYourBrain 10-05-2020 06:32 AM
Way too premature. We are coming into the fall where cases are likely to go up. Also, the pandemic is far from over, even with a vaccine. Don’t understand the logic at all other than they “can”. Not a good decision

Skunky1 10-05-2020 06:35 AM
Simple walk the course or have two people play or don’t play at all

BSmeltzer 10-05-2020 06:44 AM
2 carts per foursome starting Oct. 10
 
Good luck enforcing this!! No way am I going to ride with someone other than my wife, and they will not stop me from riding by myself unless they physically restrain me!

Girlcopper 10-05-2020 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DonH57 (Post 1842669)
Just curious. Where has this been posted? If it's true they're putting a big risk on people forcing them to share carts with others they don't know. Too early in my opinion.:ohdear:
No one is being forced to do anything. Life wont end without golf

Dana1963 10-05-2020 07:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Bjeanj (Post 1842861)
Oh great. I HATE being in the bunker and having to rake! Will have to hit better so I don’t get in the sand!
Isn’t that the ambassador’s job

Dilligas 10-05-2020 07:14 AM
Most RA tags are going by Jan 1. Without all four carts individual riders, especially with two on cart path, our less than 4 hour rounds will go to almost 5 hours. I worry less about myself, than bring COVID home to my asthmatic wife. Agree it’s too early. Stage 3 reopening still require social distancing and masks when in close quarters.

DonH57 10-05-2020 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1842999)
So, if you’re playing with 2 people that have RAs, then the non-RA people will have to drive on the path for all 18 holes. I’m not comfortable riding with anyone except for my husband, and he will not golf with me on ladies days! And I am not going to be the one always riding on the cart paths. I really do not want to handle a rake that someone else has used. The solution to that is a personal rake on my cart. What is going to happen if people will not touch the rake and rake the sand? Exactly what has been happening now.... messy sand traps. I assume there will be people who will refuse to touch the rake and we will see traps with foot prints. With regard to the pin, I will not touch it or remove it. I imagine other people will do the same and now we will see an increase in damage to the cup.
I find the timing of this suspect with the snowbirds coming down. Is this to please the swarms that will be coming from God knows where or do the developers anticipate a drop off by year-round residents being made up by the snowbirds?
Why were individual Golf Carts allowed on the golf courses for this long but all of a sudden they aren’t. Could it be the snowbirds?
People were not raking out bunkers or placing rakes back correctly, fixing divots or ball marks, observing the 90 degree rule on fairways and damaging cups way before the pandemic. I forgot one, hitting upon other groups. :duck:

Jazzman 10-05-2020 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1842999)
So, if you’re playing with 2 people that have RAs, then the non-RA people will have to drive on the path for all 18 holes. I’m not comfortable riding with anyone except for my husband, and he will not golf with me on ladies days! And I am not going to be the one always riding on the cart paths. I really do not want to handle a rake that someone else has used. The solution to that is a personal rake on my cart. What is going to happen if people will not touch the rake and rake the sand? Exactly what has been happening now.... messy sand traps. I assume there will be people who will refuse to touch the rake and we will see traps with foot prints. With regard to the pin, I will not touch it or remove it. I imagine other people will do the same and now we will see an increase in damage to the cup.


I find the timing of this suspect with the snowbirds coming down. Is this to please the swarms that will be coming from God knows where or do the developers anticipate a drop off by year-round residents being made up by the snowbirds?
Why were individual Golf Carts allowed on the golf courses for this long but all of a sudden they aren’t. Could it be the snowbirds?
IMO, yes it is about the snowbirds just like it is every year. This is a foolish ruling. One of the advantages of single carts is that the rounds usually are a bit quicker as everyone can drive right to their own ball location, unless of course you get stuck behind a group that’s getting their moneys worth out of the round. The wear and tear is an excuse. It’s the players who don’t fill divots, etc.or take any other type of responsibilities when playing that affect course conditions. Course managers can easily dictate when carts should be limited to roughs on either side based on conditions at any point in time.

Ladays1978@gmail.com 10-05-2020 07:52 AM
Why would think it is alright to ride with a friend? They can infect you as easily as someone you dont know without you even knowing it.

jamorela 10-05-2020 08:18 AM
Fairways
 
"just for info. it's 2 carts allowed in the fairway and 2 in the rough... it's ok with me the guys I golf with can't hit the fairway anyway":1rotfl:

LOL! I can't either!

graciegirl 10-05-2020 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Ladays1978@gmail.com (Post 1843060)
Why would think it is alright to ride with a friend? They can infect you as easily as someone you dont know without you even knowing it.
My husband got a test and quarantined when a son of a regular played with them and then he was found to test positive for Covid.

It scared the whole bunch. All four groups that my husband plays with every week have stopped having lunch together and riding together and it seemed to be a good plan. Why change something that is just good sense?

forebubba 10-05-2020 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1842617)
I agree, terrible idea. If I am forced to ride with a complete stranger, who I have no idea what safety precautions and risks they are taking, I will not play.
I agree!
This virus is not gone and will intensify if we all think its over.
No squares for me either

ILLINOIS RAY 10-05-2020 08:45 AM
There will be a lot of tee times available if this in enforced. I sign up as a single golfer a lot of times and no way am I getting into a cart with a stranger that I have no idea about their health. Can't see that this will be enforced

kendi 10-05-2020 08:46 AM
People will be up in arms no
matter when they choose to make changes or what changes are made.

DaleDivine 10-05-2020 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1843030)
Isn’t that the ambassador’s job
NOOOOO.. The individual that goes in the sandtrap is SUPPOSED to rake it.
When they put the rakes back.

tophcfa 10-05-2020 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by T186021 (Post 1842985)
There is the option to use a push cart and walk the course. Not ideal d/t the distance between tee boxes but definitely possible.
But there is not an option to have old and worn out knees become young again. Have you ever tried walking from the 9th green at Laurel Valley to the first T box at Riley Grove? Talk about slowing down the pace of play.

ctmurray 10-05-2020 09:24 AM
The link is confusing
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Polar Bear (Post 1842815)
FWIW, a point of info from The Villages Golf and Tennis online update sheet. It still contains the following...

"The Villages Golf & Tennis Administration – UPDATES (as of 10/1/20)...Although we encourage golfers from different households to ride in separate golf cars, the choice is yours."

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/UPDATES.pdf
Thanks for the link. The upper section says the quote you provided. Additionally that section says PVC inserts will stay but be reduced height, and no rakes in the bunkers. Now this is the first page and says it is an Update, so might be changing what is printed in the flyer.

The second page "flyer" says the opposite, only 2 carts per group, PVC inserts removed, and rakes put back in bunkers.

chuckster 10-05-2020 09:28 AM
Gee that's too bad.....lol

Donb0975 10-05-2020 10:07 AM
Announced on Friday, should be posted in golf shops and starter shacks by now. Going into effect on the 12th.

TimeForChange 10-05-2020 10:13 AM
I'll just tell the starter I have a high temp and a cough.

MSchad 10-05-2020 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1843030)
Isn’t that the ambassador’s job
Seriously! New to golf? Highly recommend attending the good golf school, or at least reading the good golf guide pamphlet you can pick up for free at any course.

Marshaw 10-05-2020 10:15 AM
golfinfo@thevillages.com send a note saying no way.

Donb0975 10-05-2020 10:17 AM
Bingo!!!

jjombrello 10-05-2020 10:23 AM
I was told you can still use four carts, but two would have to stay in the rough. The foursome would have to decide on each hole who goes to the fairway and who stays in the rough. Not a tough thing to do.

MSchad 10-05-2020 10:30 AM
I would suggest expressing your opinion here:
GolfInfo@TheVillages.com

TimeForChange 10-05-2020 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Joanne19335 (Post 1842983)
I am an executive ambassador. You can take it to the bank. It is true. I expressed my concern of this being too soon, but was told that the “Phase 3” rules will be implemented. The individual courses did not implement this. It came from higher up.
I have a feeling a lot of players will drive to the course and walk with a pull cart. I know I will. Phase three or not this is a stupid change at this point. With the "two car tag", slowbirds coming back we are wide open for a virus breakout like we have not seen.

alanmcdonald 10-05-2020 11:35 AM
I called the golf office this morning. They did not make the decision. They are getting LOTS of calls about this. They asked me to send an e-mail to golfinfo@thevillages.com to complain about this.

They did confirm that you can have more than 2 carts but no more than 2 on the championship fairways or the executive par 4s.

paulajr 10-05-2020 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1843030)
Isn’t that the ambassador’s job

Nope

Mrmean58 10-05-2020 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dana1963 (Post 1843030)
Isn’t that the ambassador’s job
WHAT??!! You can't be serious. It's never been the ambassador/marshals/rangers job. It's good golf manners. The only people who think it's not their job are lazy entitled golfers. You hit out of a sand trap, you take it. Make a divot or ball maker, you fix it. If you don't want to, try mini golf or golf off campus.

NoMoSno 10-05-2020 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 1843227)
WHAT??!! You can't be serious. It's never been the ambassador/marshals/rangers job. It's good golf manners. The only people who think it's not their job are lazy entitled golfers. You hit out of a sand trap, you take it. Make a divot or ball maker, you fix it. If you don't want to, try mini golf or golf off campus.
The same rules apply if you golf "off campus"

Mrmean58 10-05-2020 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TimeForChange (Post 1843154)
I'll just tell the starter I have a high temp and a cough.
And you will be given a rain check and asked to leave.

Mrmean58 10-05-2020 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by NoMoSno (Post 1843232)
The same rules apply if you golf "off campus"
Yes they do but at least the inconsiderate golfers will be destroying courses outside of the community.

NoMoSno 10-05-2020 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrmean58 (Post 1843237)
Yes they do but at least the inconsiderate golfers will be destroying courses outside of the community.
Since I own properties in all the surrounding communities as well as TV, I'd prefer everyone to follow the rules.

Indy-Guy 10-05-2020 12:44 PM
At all times you should use the 90 degree rule when driving your cart on the course.

Stay in the rough until you get parallel to your ball then drive on the fairway to your ball hit it the return to the rough and then repeat. If everyone in 4 carts would do this it would do less wear and tear on the course than 2 carts not doing the above and pace of play would go quicker.

I see so many people just driving straight down the fairway all the time and then they complain about course conditions.

Mrmean58 10-05-2020 01:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Singerlady (Post 1842999)
So, if you’re playing with 2 people that have RAs, then the non-RA people will have to drive on the path for all 18 holes. I’m not comfortable riding with anyone except for my husband, and he will not golf with me on ladies days! And I am not going to be the one always riding on the cart paths. I really do not want to handle a rake that someone else has used. The solution to that is a personal rake on my cart. What is going to happen if people will not touch the rake and rake the sand? Exactly what has been happening now.... messy sand traps. I assume there will be people who will refuse to touch the rake and we will see traps with foot prints. With regard to the pin, I will not touch it or remove it. I imagine other people will do the same and now we will see an increase in damage to the cup.
I find the timing of this suspect with the snowbirds coming down. Is this to please the swarms that will be coming from God knows where or do the developers anticipate a drop off by year-round residents being made up by the snowbirds?
Why were individual Golf Carts allowed on the golf courses for this long but all of a sudden they aren’t. Could it be the snowbirds?
It maybe very easy to blame the timing on the arrival of seasonal residents but that would be misinformation. When all outside activities were shut down in the spring except for golf, the number of golf rounds played in TV went UP by tens of thousands. Most of those plus the expected or normal number of rounds played were in single rider carts. So yes course conditions were negatively impacted inspite of the greens keepers efforts. Some of the single riders didn't care where they drove, not returning to cart paths near the greens, driving through garden areas and even through sand traps. Yes I do work at a champ course and have witnessed these behaviors first hand. Like all aspects of a group, a vast majority care about the courses and how they leave them but there has been a growing number of bad apples in this single cart era who could give a rip and do whatever they want to.

ficoguy 10-05-2020 02:16 PM
I'm not riding with some snowbird from up north

DARFAP 10-05-2020 02:39 PM
Interesting. Every time I hopped in with a group (pre-pandemic), we were told only 2 carts, and I normally ended up riding with someone else because the others never wanted to give up their cart. Was told the only time this 2 cart rule didn't apply was if someone was a smoker--couldn't force one to ride with the smoker.

KCoffey 10-05-2020 03:11 PM
I heard about it on WVLG this morning. Did not hear start date though.

Red White & Blue 10-05-2020 03:23 PM
They want us dead!
Besides, if someone that I don't know want so ride with me I'm charging $4.00 per 9 Holes....
Its my personal cart not the Villages!!!!!!

swooner 10-05-2020 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Regor (Post 1842590)
The Villages golf courses are going back to only 2 carts per foursome on Oct. 10. I think it is a terrible idea! This pandemic is far from over! You can't social distance in a golf cart.


just for info. it's 2 carts allowed in the fairway and 2 in the rough... it's ok with me the guys I golf with can't hit the fairway anyway
Which two get to ride in the fairway? Who plans to enforce it. Nonsense! Does anyone else agree golf administration is run by a bunch of jerks?


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