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Bogie Shooter 03-13-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Blackie (Post 466441)
This is the 'Sunshine State' that's why many of us live here.

The golf courses, pickle ball courts, tennis courts, cycling paths and walking paths are all unprotected from the sun as well.

Dress and protect yourself appropriately.

Look at protective clothing for swimming on this site linked below:

UV Skinz: Sunblock clothing, uv sun protection with swim shirts and uv protection clothing

That looks cheaper than building 5 new indoor pools.

Mudder 03-13-2012 06:14 PM

I whole heartedly agree with Bogie ! Indoor pools just don't make good financial sense....neither do indoor tennis courts in Florida or lots of other indoor facilities in Florida.

ilovetv 03-13-2012 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mudder (Post 466459)
I whole heartedly agree with Bogie ! Indoor pools just don't make good financial sense....neither do indoor tennis courts in Florida or lots of other indoor facilities in Florida.

Oh, really?

"YMCA Aquatic and Family Center
http://www.ymcacentralflorida.com/y-...quatic-center/

Address: 8422 International Dr. , International Drive , Orlando , FL , UNITED STATES (Postal Code: 32819)
Telephone: (407) 363-1911.
Visitors (adult): $10.00. [April, 2011]
Affiliate: Out-of-area YMCA 3 visits Free, then $4.
USMS $5.00 with card.

Facilities (Full-size, year-round)

Pool 1: 50m x 25y, 10 x 23 lanes, indoors, 79-80°F (26-27°C).

Pool 2: 25y diving pool with up to 5 lap swimming lanes, indoors, 84°F (29°C).

Pool 3: 25y, 6 lane, teaching pool, indoors, 88-89°F (31-32°C).

Diving equipment: Five 1m and three 3m boards; 1m, 3m, 5m, 7.5m, and 10m platforms.

What's On:
Activities: Lap swim, Masters swim club, youth swim club, water polo, synchronized swimming, swim lessons, dive lessons, aqua aerobics, arthritis exercise, therapeutic exercise.
Masters swim team: Team Orlando Masters. Contact Dr. Lucky Meisenheimer or Sandee Crowther at 352-2444(w).
Youth swim team: Swim Orlando YMCA.
Diving team: Team Orlando Diving.
Water polo team: Orlando Waterpolo (Masters).
Synchro swim team: Team Orlando Loreleis.


YMCA Aquatic and Family Center Swimming Pool Information

The Village Girl 03-13-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by zcaveman (Post 466202)
Once you put in ONE indoor pool for lap swimming and exercise classes, the normal pool users would want one or two for their use also. Don't they get skin cancer also?

And depending on where the indoor pool is built, the people on the other side or further away will want one in their area also.

Do you begin to see how this will grow?

I think it will become cost prohibitive in no time.

You do see that you are making Swimdawg's point..... right?

hmmmmm II wonder if this is how the golf courses got started?

Pathel 03-13-2012 08:18 PM

Stupid idea!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 463946)
I received my letter regarding the Villages Resident Survey.

It will be ongoing for four weeks starting 3/12/12.

My one request.....for any of you who might think it is a good idea....to please suggest we have indoor pools in The Villages.

There is ever-increasing awareness of skin cancers and the necessity to avoid excesssive sun exposure. Indoor pools would surely alleviate that problem.

And, of course, indoor pools would be wonderful when the air is too cold to swim in outdoor pools (which I personally experienced on many occasions).

Please fill out your surveys and please think about adding something about how nice it would be to have indoor pools in TV. please

When we first read about this idea, we thought it was the most ridiculous thing we ever heard of. What a stupid idea!!! We have so many beautiful pools here in TV. Why would we need indoor pools?

Then we read all the posts and it makes so much sense to have some indoor pools. We have so many friends who have skin cancer. Skin doctors in Florida are doing good business. Besides, sometimes it is too cold here in the winter months to go swimming. But you could suck it up for that. The skin cancer thing is why we have changed our minds and we will suggest that they need to build indoor pools.

FMF Doc 03-13-2012 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 466471)
Oh, really?

"YMCA Aquatic and Family Center
http://www.ymcacentralflorida.com/y-...quatic-center/

Address: 8422 International Dr. , International Drive , Orlando , FL , UNITED STATES (Postal Code: 32819)
Telephone: (407) 363-1911.
Visitors (adult): $10.00. [April, 2011]
Affiliate: Out-of-area YMCA 3 visits Free, then $4.
USMS $5.00 with card.

Facilities (Full-size, year-round)

Pool 1: 50m x 25y, 10 x 23 lanes, indoors, 79-80°F (26-27°C).

Pool 2: 25y diving pool with up to 5 lap swimming lanes, indoors, 84°F (29°C).

Pool 3: 25y, 6 lane, teaching pool, indoors, 88-89°F (31-32°C).

Diving equipment: Five 1m and three 3m boards; 1m, 3m, 5m, 7.5m, and 10m platforms.

What's On:
Activities: Lap swim, Masters swim club, youth swim club, water polo, synchronized swimming, swim lessons, dive lessons, aqua aerobics, arthritis exercise, therapeutic exercise.
Masters swim team: Team Orlando Masters. Contact Dr. Lucky Meisenheimer or Sandee Crowther at 352-2444(w).
Youth swim team: Swim Orlando YMCA.
Diving team: Team Orlando Diving.
Water polo team: Orlando Waterpolo (Masters).
Synchro swim team: Team Orlando Loreleis.


YMCA Aquatic and Family Center Swimming Pool Information

What a great idea. I encourage everyone to join me in requesting a YMCA here in The Villages.

Bexter 03-13-2012 08:42 PM

Good idea
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 466229)
People are more educated as to skin cancer these days. Perhaps years ago when TV was first built, residents were not so aware. SunCity indicated that more people used the outdoor pools years ago....but now they are using their indoor pools more than outside pools.

There is a whole new area being built....south of 466A. Now is the time for the Developer to become aware that we would like indoor pools in TV.

Makes sense. We will mention it on our survey.

Barefoot 03-13-2012 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 464895)
I believe the bulding is owned by the Moffit Cancer Center and not by The Villages.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BogeyBoy (Post 466178)
I think the building which houses the pool is owned by "The Villages Operating Company".
The Sharon Morse Building is owned by "The Villages Regional Medical".
(This information is from the Sumter County Property Appraiser's website.)

Moffitt Cancer Center has a big operation in Tampa and I seriously doubt that TV any financial interest in what goes on there. TV is affiliated with Moffitt, which is great for us - but just because you sell Cadillacs at your dealership doesn't mean you own General Motors.

That's the point I was trying to make BB, but you said it better .... The indoor pool isn't the property of The Villages. (But they do have tentacles that reach a long way).

barb1191 03-13-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefoot (Post 464895)
I believe the bulding is owned by the Moffit Cancer Center and not by The Villages. Unless they own Moffit, which is entirely possible!

It seems that I recall reading the various publications re Moffitt in TV, that Moffitt will be leasing the space and equipment from TV with TV handling the professional and administrative/maintenance positions.

Bogie Shooter 03-14-2012 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barb1191 (Post 466530)
It seems that I recall reading the various publications re Moffitt in TV, that Moffitt will be leasing the space and equipment from TV with TV handling the professional and administrative/maintenance positions.

This topic was beat to death right here on TOTV.

Bogie Shooter 03-14-2012 09:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 466471)
Oh, really?

"YMCA Aquatic and Family Center
YMCA Aquatic Family Center | YMCA

Address: 8422 International Dr. , International Drive , Orlando , FL , UNITED STATES (Postal Code: 32819)
Telephone: (407) 363-1911.
Visitors (adult): $10.00. [April, 2011]
Affiliate: Out-of-area YMCA 3 visits Free, then $4.
USMS $5.00 with card.

Facilities (Full-size, year-round)

Pool 1: 50m x 25y, 10 x 23 lanes, indoors, 79-80°F (26-27°C).

Pool 2: 25y diving pool with up to 5 lap swimming lanes, indoors, 84°F (29°C).

Pool 3: 25y, 6 lane, teaching pool, indoors, 88-89°F (31-32°C).

Diving equipment: Five 1m and three 3m boards; 1m, 3m, 5m, 7.5m, and 10m platforms.

What's On:
Activities: Lap swim, Masters swim club, youth swim club, water polo, synchronized swimming, swim lessons, dive lessons, aqua aerobics, arthritis exercise, therapeutic exercise.
Masters swim team: Team Orlando Masters. Contact Dr. Lucky Meisenheimer or Sandee Crowther at 352-2444(w).
Youth swim team: Swim Orlando YMCA.
Diving team: Team Orlando Diving.
Water polo team: Orlando Waterpolo (Masters).
Synchro swim team: Team Orlando Loreleis.


YMCA Aquatic and Family Center Swimming Pool Information

There is a great deal of fund raising, (just Google YMCA Aquatic and Family Center orlando florida) to support this outstanding facility. Probably not a good comparison to an indoor pool at TV.

swimdawg 03-14-2012 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 464144)
As another poster mentioned.

AquaShield Pool Enclosures | Front Page | AquaShield - Pool enclosure specialists

Maybe a portion of the outdoor pools fitted with something like this? More bang for the buck possibly.

I did a little research on this option. The sports pools in TV are considered "Junior Olympic" and the dimension is 73' x 75'. The AquaShield comes in different sizes with 32' being the largest width.

ilovetv 03-14-2012 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 466619)
There is a great deal of fund raising, (just Google YMCA Aquatic and Family Center orlando florida) to support this outstanding facility. Probably not a good comparison to an indoor pool at TV.

You purposely miss the point. All the pools at this complex IN FLORIDA (where other posters said indoor pools are unnecessary) are indoors, and the water temperatures are warm because it gets cold outside in the winter. They're also inside due to blazing sun and inability to use them during varying weather conditions outdoors.

If there were a YMCA or like facility nearby...not necessarily in TV....I would join in a heartbeat. But there's not one anywhere nearby, much less one that has an indoor pool.

Maureen Yukl 03-14-2012 11:13 AM

Indoor pool
 
A great idea-thanks for the suggestion.

rubicon 03-14-2012 01:28 PM

One of the reasons cited for not having an indoor pool when the Wellness Center relocated was the high cost of maintenance.

Secondly just where would you locate this pool? The prime users of the indoor pool at the wellness center were people in need of therapy, etc.

Clearly other residents, without such needs, would be interested in an indoor pool. Would families be included in the use of indoor pools? If so then would we need one indoor pool, two indoor pools, perhaps three or more?

Third, would the amenities fee pay for these pools or should there be a separate charge. Many residents do not use the facilities we have now.

The only facility many use here are the golf courses wherein they pay for champsionship along with perhaps priority. As for executive course they also pay trail fees. To suggest that The Villages invest in indoor pools that most won't use seems to me counter-intuitive

Bogie Shooter 03-14-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubicon (Post 466753)
One of the reasons cited for not having an indoor pool when the Wellness Center relocated was the high cost of maintenance.

Secondly just where would you locate this pool? The prime users of the indoor pool at the wellness center were people in need of therapy, etc.

Clearly other residents, without such needs, would be interested in an indoor pool. Would families be included in the use of indoor pools? If so then would we need one indoor pool, two indoor pools, perhaps three or more?

Third, would the amenities fee pay for these pools or should there be a separate charge. Many residents do not use the facilities we have now.

The only facility many use here are the golf courses wherein they pay for champsionship along with perhaps priority. As for executive course they also pay trail fees. To suggest that The Villages invest in indoor pools that most won't use seems to me counter-intuitive

:agree:
A separate charge was offered before and there were not enough people interested to support the existing indoor pool.

rubicon 03-14-2012 02:21 PM

Boogie shooter: Thank you for that information

Bogie Shooter 03-14-2012 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 466666)
You purposely miss the point. All the pools at this complex IN FLORIDA (where other posters said indoor pools are unnecessary) are indoors, and the water temperatures are warm because it gets cold outside in the winter. They're also inside due to blazing sun and inability to use them during varying weather conditions outdoors.

If there were a YMCA or like facility nearby...not necessarily in TV....I would join in a heartbeat. But there's not one anywhere nearby, much less one that has an indoor pool.

Not purposely.

ilovetv 03-14-2012 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogie Shooter (Post 466788)
:agree:
A separate charge was offered before and there were not enough people interested to support the existing indoor pool.

How were people asked whether they would support (monetarily) the existing indoor pool?

I remember that closure of the existing wellness center pool was mentioned in a couple of Daily Sun articles, but that is not a formalized survey in which all TV residents were asked the specific question of whether they would be willing to pay a fee to use that indoor pool or a new one elsewhere in TV.

And as for "high costs of maintaining" the existing indoor pool at the wellness center before it moved........it was probably old with old pumps, heaters, or old chemical injection systems, and like most older pools, it's not worth spending major bucks to upgrade old equipment when it's better to replace it or build a new pool with newer technology.

I think we all know how easily "surveys" get skewed when only a select few people are asked to participate. Mentioning an issue in the Daily Sun while half the population is up north from April to December and they cannot access the full paper online would be a very faulty way of "surveying" whether they are for or against this issue.

Bexter 03-14-2012 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 466666)
You purposely miss the point. All the pools at this complex IN FLORIDA (where other posters said indoor pools are unnecessary) are indoors, and the water temperatures are warm because it gets cold outside in the winter. They're also inside due to blazing sun and inability to use them during varying weather conditions outdoors.

If there were a YMCA or like facility nearby...not necessarily in TV....I would join in a heartbeat. But there's not one anywhere nearby, much less one that has an indoor pool.

Sounds like the perfect time to build indoor pools in The Villages with all that new construction going on.

cquick 03-15-2012 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by asianthree (Post 464013)
I would love to have a indoor pool but, ONE indoor pool for how many people in Jan/Feb/Mar. It would be like fitting 50 people in a two ring blow up pool. You think saving chairs is bad, put in ONE indoor pool and see how that goes. Yep it would be a better move to put in a gym like lifetime fitness with classes, indoor pool, and machines. $49.00 a month.

There already is a beautiful indoor pool but it is not being used at all. It's at the Lake Centre for Rehabilitation near the new Morse Cancer Center.

I think they could offer classes with a teacher for a fee and when the classes fill up, then no more students would be accepted. Very much like the Villages College.

Connie

cquick 03-15-2012 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 466229)
People are more educated as to skin cancer these days. Perhaps years ago when TV was first built, residents were not so aware. SunCity indicated that more people used the outdoor pools years ago....but now they are using their indoor pools more than outside pools.

There is a whole new area being built....south of 466A. Now is the time for the Developer to become aware that we would like indoor pools in TV.

AND it needs access for the disabled! (that's my cause and I'm stickin' to it!)

Villages PL 03-15-2012 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 463946)
I received my letter regarding the Villages Resident Survey.

It will be ongoing for four weeks starting 3/12/12.

My one request.....for any of you who might think it is a good idea....to please suggest we have indoor pools in The Villages.

There is ever-increasing awareness of skin cancers and the necessity to avoid excesssive sun exposure. Indoor pools would surely alleviate that problem.

And, of course, indoor pools would be wonderful when the air is too cold to swim in outdoor pools (which I personally experienced on many occasions).

Please fill out your surveys and please think about adding something about how nice it would be to have indoor pools in TV. please

There's no harm in asking for it but I don't think it will do any good. We did have an indoor pool at The Wellness Center a few years ago. I belonged to The Wellness Center and swam in their pool but it's no longer available.

English Ivy 03-15-2012 02:31 PM

For Swimdawg & Everyone Else
 
who would like an indoor pool facility, are you familiar with what Leesburg has to offer?

Pool Information | Wellness Services | Leesburg Regional Medical Center | Florida

ilovetv 03-15-2012 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by English Ivy (Post 467220)
who would like an indoor pool facility, are you familiar with what Leesburg has to offer?

Pool Information | Wellness Services | Leesburg Regional Medical Center | Florida

Yes. I'm familiar. It took 25 minutes to get there, lap swim time is seriously limited by classes, etc., pool is too short and narrow for laps, and the pool and heater were probably acceptable in the 1960's. There's no way to describe it politely.

swimdawg 03-15-2012 05:46 PM

Indoor pools
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ilovetv (Post 467277)
Yes. I'm familiar. It took 25 minutes to get there, lap swim time is seriously limited by classes, etc., pool is too short and narrow for laps, and the pool and heater were probably acceptable in the 1960's. There's no way to describe it politely.

Interesting!

They need indoor pools in TV.....no doubt about it!

rubicon 03-15-2012 05:58 PM

The best manner in which to determine the "need" for an indoor swimming pool is to take a survey and include an enrollment form and see how many folks are willing to pay for this pool. The Golf Administration enrolls residents for priority golf that can also include the use of certain pools.

Perhaps that is a starting point in getting this project underway. But I suspect there are a lot of folks not interested in paying for another pool

Bexter 03-17-2012 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lovsthosebigdogs (Post 464030)
I'd like to use an indoor pool in the summer. I hate all that sun and sunscreen. Seems like a way to prevent skin cancer if you ask me (I realize no one did or will). At this campground we like they have this lovely pool that is half outdoors and half in and I always keep myself in the part that is under the roof, even in the summer months. Just easier for me with my fair skin not to worry about wearing a hat and keeping covered. Maybe but it might be nice to have the pool to myself in July.

:agree:

goingtothevillages 03-17-2012 09:16 AM

How about requesting they add a sidewalk on the outside of the wall on the bridge to Sumter Landing. It would be far less expensive than widening the bridge because it would only have to be sturdy enough for walking traffic. Then they could remove the current sidewalk, and then widen the cart paths back to a normal width. A win-win-win for everyone!

Bogie Shooter 03-17-2012 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goingtothevillages (Post 467901)
How about requesting they add a sidewalk on the outside of the wall on the bridge to Sumter Landing. It would be far less expensive than widening the bridge because it would only have to be sturdy enough for walking traffic. Then they could remove the current sidewalk, and then widen the cart paths back to a normal width. A win-win-win for everyone!

Now that is a good idea.
And a topic for the resident survey.

swimdawg 03-29-2012 05:21 AM

Just a gentle reminder...
 
Still not too late to tell the Developer we would like an indoor pool in TV.

Quote:

Originally Posted by swimdawg (Post 463946)
I received my letter regarding the Villages Resident Survey.

It will be ongoing for four weeks starting 3/12/12.

My one request.....for any of you who might think it is a good idea....to please suggest we have indoor pools in The Villages.

There is ever-increasing awareness of skin cancers and the necessity to avoid excesssive sun exposure. Indoor pools would surely alleviate that problem.

And, of course, indoor pools would be wonderful when the air is too cold to swim in outdoor pools (which I personally experienced on many occasions).

Please fill out your surveys and please think about adding something about how nice it would be to have indoor pools in TV. please


sportstalk 03-20-2013 09:46 PM

Bowling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gryoung (Post 464150)
While building your wish list for the 2012 annual survey, please consider asking for another bowling alley, and widening the Morse bridge.

I don't know about the Morse Bridge, but your wish for the bowling alley should come true in the near future.

There's a new bowling alley coming across from Brownwood Square, the land was just purchased in March 2013!

:MOJE_whot:

moeZ 18 08-12-2013 11:34 PM

I think that they should build several indoor pools, skin cancer is a problem that many adults have. It would be nice in the colder months too. If the villages can build 63 outside pools why not a few indoor ones

Villageswimmer 08-13-2013 05:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BookBarb (Post 464828)
Maybe it would make more sense to open the sports pools at 5:00 AM for those who are truly interested in lap swimming. You would not have to worry about sun exposure. When I go to the pool at 7:00 AM it is not always daylight and the pools do have lights. Many serious swimmers are there at that time. When my husband coached swimming, their practices were at 5:30 AM.


Great idea! We lap swimmers are a hearty lot year round. Lap lanes are full at sports pools at 7 am and many times swimmers need to wait. My main reason is sun avoidance but swimming while watching the beautiful sunrise is breathtaking and a wonderful way to start the day. Little or no cost to anyone.

Challenger 08-13-2013 05:22 AM

Would it not be possible to install inflatable bubbles over sveral of the outdoor pools during winter months?I came from Maryland and saw this solution for winter tennis play.

buggyone 08-13-2013 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Challenger (Post 725007)
Would it not be possible to install inflatable bubbles over sveral of the outdoor pools during winter months?I came from Maryland and saw this solution for winter tennis play.

You want a bubble within a bubble? Wow, talk about Under The Dome!

I remember those tennis bubbles in Montgomery County. In order to pay for the tennis bubbles, you had to pay for the tennis time and that was in addition to the ridiculously high Montgomery County taxes.

carmanfl1 08-13-2013 04:13 PM

Indoor Pool
 
We totally agree. We have put this request in our Village Survey response for the last 8 years. Will continue, but do not expect any positive results!

Russ_Boston 08-13-2013 05:21 PM

Ah, the yearly "We want an indoor pool" debate. Not going to happen. Period. Too expensive to build, maintain, staff. And you would need many more than 1 for all 100K people!


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