Originally Posted by Glowing Horizon (Post 2363617)

Using an electrical outlet without permission is theft of electricity. Trespassing was a nicer way to tell him to leave & not return IMO

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2363354)

How are they trespassing if they are traveling on public roads and leaving private property when asked?

Originally Posted by gorillarick (Post 2363642)

aye aye yi
If asked to leave a no trespassing area, and they leave when asked, they are not trespassing?
What kind of logic is that ?

When a solicitor comes to my door, I ask for their card, ask them why I would do business with people that break our rules?
Tell them I will report, and take a picture of them.
At least they move to the next street.

This is a gated community. We are not getting all the security we're paying for.

Originally Posted by Glowing Horizon (Post 2363618)

People who wander around looking for work are showing you they are DESPERATE, right up front. So if you assume they may do DESPERATE things—that is logical—not judgmental.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2363648)

Seems people aren't understanding what "trespassing" means, and are interpreting a regulation without checking the legal definition of the word first. So - Chapter 810, Section 09 of the Florida Statutes:



This is what Florida law defines as trespassing on the property of someone's home, who hasn't yet entered the dwelling itself yet (there's a different trespassing law for entering structures and dwellings, this isn't that regulation).

The bolded part "willfully enters upon OR remains" - means the person is trespassing BEFORE anyone tells them to get lost. They are trespassing because they came onto the property in the first place.

The underlined part, refers to the land immediately surrounding the structure/dwelling. So if someone owned a few acres of wooded land and crossed into the woods behind someone's house, and didn't get there by entering the yardage immediately surrounding the house (if they came in from next door or the block behind them, for example), then this law would NOT apply.

But walking up to someone's front door, if you are uninvited, unauthorized, and don't have a license to do so? That is - legally - according to Florida Statute quoted above - trespassing.

"Being trespassed" is a term that refers to the consequence of trespassing, if the authorized agent/owner of the property complains about it to the police. It means you receive an official warning. You get a warning because you have already broken the law, and a warning is the first step in the process.

Originally Posted by Bill14564 (Post 2363649)

You quote it, underline it, but fail to read it. Note the conditions under both 1. and 2. that exist just beyond what you have highlighted. Those conditions are very significant.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2363650)

I've read it, I understand it. Someone who shows up trying to offer you a service - who you didn't call, invite, or otherwise authorize to show up - who doesn't have a license to show up...

is breaking the law. He has to be licensed. Not being licensed is a different law, not a trespassing law. So he is breaking the law by not being licensed to show up. That makes his presence - legally - trespassing.

Originally Posted by OrangeBlossomBaby (Post 2363742)

See that bolded underlined word? That's the word OR. It, like the word trespass, has a legal definition.

If you call the police when someone comes to your door, and you DO NOT ENGAGE with the person at your door, and the police show up, and they ask that person if they have a license to solicit - and that person does not - then they have ALREADY committed the crime of trespass. The "intent to commit a crime" is "soliciting without a license." That's why they showed up at your door. Two things happened here. First, they intended to solicit without a license. Then, they came to your house with that intent to commit that crime, which makes them illegal trespassers.

I mean jeez louise it's such a simple concept, think of them as illegals crossing the border, and it should make perfect sense.