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NotGolfer 09-14-2019 08:40 AM

This whole subject has been beaten up and chewed and spit out all over the social media plus local "news" site way too much. In my opinion, all it does is stir up people's BP. I agree that trolls just need to find a hobby (other than doing this) BUT........there are so many ways to go with this. :popcorn: :boxing2:

Velvet 09-14-2019 08:41 AM

“A few lawn ornaments” do you get fined for each ornament separately?

The past owner left a couple of things on my front bed. Kind of hidden but if you’re weeding you can find them.

vintageogauge 09-14-2019 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Vikingjunior (Post 1681141)
I’ve been reported over 20 times for alleged weeds, if you saw how tiny the weeds were you would laugh you head off.

You sound proud of your weeds.

Chellybean 09-14-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 1681148)
If this scenario is valid. If there is a person who is driving around and reporting what she thinks are valid infringements. If she is calling in on obvious objects that are not allowed, then how do any of us know her motivation? There are those who don't like rules. They don't like being reminded of the rules by police officers and they assuredly do not want a neighbor reporting their ugly yard art.

I am skeptical such a thing is happening. Rumors are frequently repeated on this and all FORUMS and passed around as fact.

If she did this all day, every day, and there were no infringements, no broken rules, then nothing happens. The person who is in charge of the complaint(s) come out and does nothing. No one is harmed or aggravated. BUT if there is a rule broken, the homeowner gets a letter, if they ignore the letter, they get fined.

If this is what she wants to do, to me she is helping. I don't like ugly yard art. I don't like schlocky things. I don't like overdone I don't even like a lot of STUFF. I like deed restrictions. They keep the place looking nice.

If someone reported us, we would remove the offending item or change whatever rule was broken. We would be a little embarrassed, but we would immediately remedy the offensive thing. We would think it was reported because it was a rule broken. We wouldn't think a person didn't like us.

Again Gracie i think you are missing the point, your opinion may be your opinion and no one else in the neighborhood. If you don't live in that neighborhood then mind your own business. It is mean spirited no matter what way you look at it when someone goes around to report other neighborhoods infraction. Their life must be filled with hatred and very unhappy person, JMHO

tophcfa 09-14-2019 08:57 AM

Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

Chellybean 09-14-2019 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1681186)
Perhaps a solution to the "troll" problem would be to only allow deeded Villages homeowners to make deed violation complaints on homes that lie within a small radius around their own home. I think that would be more in line with the intent of the current system of having the deed restrictions policed by the members of ones neighborhood.

That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

Velvet 09-14-2019 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681189)
That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO

This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?

Chellybean 09-14-2019 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681191)
This puzzles me, so if you have money a lawn ornament is not a lawn ornament? And does the fine increase with each further infraction if you’re (what in Europe is referred to as a “peasant”)?

i am not understanding your point? my reference was to complaint driven to selective enforcement lawsuit.

Velvet 09-14-2019 09:36 AM

I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

Bogie Shooter 09-14-2019 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

https://districtgov.org/departments/...%20Process.pdf

biker1 09-14-2019 10:25 AM

I believe it is actually quite the opposite. From a selective enforcement legal point of view, we are better off with a complaint driven system as long as all complaints are investigated and uniformly acted on. With the current system, Community Standards isn't responsible for monitoring. If they were responsible for monitoring, missed infractions could be the basis for selective enforcement legal actions.

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Originally Posted by Chellybean (Post 1681189)
That may be one solution but not rectify all the problems.
It should not be complaint driven which breeds problems and is borderline selective enforcement and the person with deeper pockets could win the lawsuit, and we know who has the deeper pockets.
Again JMHO


njbchbum 09-14-2019 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

Since you are not aware of the rule/regs re deed compliance, perhaps these websites will provide that info for you:

https://www.districtgov.org/departme...andardsFAQ.pdf

VCDD Community Standards

VCDD Community Standards

Velvet 09-14-2019 10:27 AM

Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.

graciegirl 09-14-2019 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681202)
I was wondering how the fines worked and who had to pay them. Just Incase someone disliked the things in my flower bed.

NO one can complain about your flower bed if it is not pretty or has the Dahlias too close to the Hibiscus. NO objects or statuary or signs are allowed without asking community standards for permission and getting it first. If something is reported without permission, then it much be removed or you will be fined until you remove it or put it under your eaves. I think that the wealth referred to was about The Morses who put these rules in place. Check your deed restrictions. All people who don't like them, please don't move here. We have gobs aplenty who like them fine.

God save the King.

Bogie Shooter 09-14-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Velvet (Post 1681212)
Wow, the process to resolve the lawn ornament situation if it is followed, seems quite fair, in my opinion.

Isn't it amazing what a few facts will do to an opinion?


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