[biker1]

I don't believe there is anything gray about a white cross being a yard ornament and if someone was to pursue it legally I doubt they would prevail. I suspect they would have a difficult time finding legal council to take such a case. The deed restrictions are quite specific and probably written by lawyers. I guess they could be called a seasonal display but you can only keep those up for 30 days. At the end of the day, if you get cited you can either take down the white cross or be fined - that is pretty much black and white.

Originally Posted by Chellybean

i get what you are saying but i don't think everything aligns that way if you know what i mean. A perfect example is the white crosses.
It is a religious belief to one person and a ornament to another.
Everything in the law is gray these days. Nothing is black and white anymore.
Our debate could be a health one but at the end of the day it is still all gray if your know what i am saying.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by biker1

I don't believe there is anything gray about a white cross being a yard ornament and if someone was to pursue it legally I doubt they would prevail. I suspect they would have a difficult time finding legal council to take such a case. The deed restrictions are quite specific and probably written by lawyers. I guess they could be called a seasonal display but you can only keep those up for 30 days. At the end of the day, if you get cited you can either take down the white cross or be fined - that is pretty much black and white.

again i don't agree but i do concede it would be a difficult battle and quite costly. Freedom of speech and religious beliefs are a very sharp razor, again goes to deep pockets!

[OlifOlif]

Could you send more information?

[roob1]

When you get pulled over for speeding and the officer is writing you up, there are very likely other vehicles going by that are speeding. The officer is too busy to clock them.

Would you cry "selective enforcement" to the judge? If so, good luck.

Yours is just another example of blame-shifting.

Originally Posted by Chellybean

I disagree with that but i can understand your point. But by a complaint driven the complaint is enforced but the neighbor next door can be also guilty of the exact same thing. Now we have selective enforcement.
I guess it is a loss loss for anyone that gets tattle tailed on.

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by Chellybean

again i don't agree but i do concede it would be a difficult battle and quite costly. Freedom of speech and religious beliefs are a very sharp razor, again goes to deep pockets!

A huge amount of people reading this Forum treasure the symbol of the cross, including me. This isn't an attack on the cross or on religious freedom. This is about deed restrictions. The little wooden crosses are allowed under the eaves of any home in The Villages. So are all other symbols of religious faith. That doesn't mean that the people who wrote the deed restrictions don't also treasure the symbol(s).

It made me so happy to gift my friend with a lovely Star of David necklace and she wore it until she died. I wear a cross myself. You will see many people with the Mezuzah on their front door showing their home was blessed. Crosses are allowed there too if someone wished to put one there.

Deed restrictions and the anonymous reporting of deed restrictions do not mean people are against religion. I so wish you understood that.

[GOLFER54]

Sadly there are people here and elsewhere that are so vindictive and spiteful that they find comfort in upsetting others.

[RRman77 retired]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

you know the rules, live with them...

[graciegirl]

Originally Posted by GOLFER54

Sadly there are people here and elsewhere that are so vindictive and spiteful that they find comfort in upsetting others.

That is true.

However, that is not the reason for deed restrictions or the enforcement of them, but does relate to keeping people who report restrictions anonymous.

[Mfarmeno]

Originally Posted by Chatbrat

Well according to our neighborhood c hat room, 50 Tamarind Grove residents have just been turned over to community standards by a single person

This "witch" has to be stopped in her tracks and exposed

She has a personal vendetta or some other mental issue driving her.

again ,look for a dark red golf cart with A white swim noodle

There is also a couple on a golf cart with a clip board driving through the area. Saw a Volkswagen convertible bug staking out the villas in Kingfisher.

[prendymom]

A neighbor of mine mentioned to me last week that he saw someone take a picture of our front lawn. We have 2 crosses under our front eaves, which is where they are to be. So what's the problem. Some people need to get a life!

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by roob1

When you get pulled over for speeding and the officer is writing you up, there are very likely other vehicles going by that are speeding. The officer is too busy to clock them.

Would you cry "selective enforcement" to the judge? If so, good luck.

Yours is just another example of blame-shifting.

OMG apples and oranges

[Marathon Man]

Originally Posted by prendymom

A neighbor of mine mentioned to me last week that he saw someone take a picture of our front lawn. We have 2 crosses under our front eaves, which is where they are to be. So what's the problem. Some people need to get a life!

Under the eves is still controlled by the deed restrictions. Only on your porch are you allowed ornaments. That came from Community Standards directly to my ears about a month ago.

Another common story is that the deed restrictions do not apply to the back yard. They do.

[Chellybean]

Originally Posted by Marathon Man

Under the eves is still controlled by the deed restrictions. Only on your porch are you allowed ornaments. That came from Community Standards directly to my ears about a month ago.

Another common story is that the deed restrictions do not apply to the back yard. They do.

That is also a gray area it is to be under the foot print of the home.
The eves are under the foot print of the home.
Only one persons (attorney) interpretation of the law

[Two Bills]

I cannot understand why people cannot put the crosses in their back yards, dozens of them if they so wish, or is the front yard placing of the things just to show how more 'Christian' they are to neighbors who pass by?
My personal belief is there is nothing after death but compost, but I don't stick a compost bin in the front garden to advertise the fact!

[MrsPhil]

Not true ("if there is no violation, there is no letter or fine"). I have friends who were turned in for a completely fabricated violation. Rather than have someone physically check it out or call and ask about it, they were immediately sent a "cease and desist" letter! When they tried to talk to someone about it, they were told it would be a week or more before they could even tell an appropriate person that what they were accused of was completely imaginary! In other words, they were essentially told "Quit doing what someone said you are doing and we'll listen to your side of the story later." It's a crazy system and not always upfront.