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Old 12-14-2017, 05:53 PM
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Other places that are 55+ also have problems. I see in the Sunday newspaper every week 'On Top of the World' Condos in Clearwater for sale. They're very reasonable in the $75K to $150K range. I looked them up on the internet and found a message board. I started reading it, and most of the complaints were about young people living and renting and having parties and making noise and giving people a hard time, and the management doesn't do anything to enforce the housing rules.

You'll notice most of the retirement communities along Hwy 27 between Leesburg and Clermont advertise their golf courses in the newspaper. They have specials most of the time, and no mention of an age restriction. I haven't played any of those courses, but it seems a lot of local younger people are there probably on their golf course. I have very seldom played golf with younger people on our courses unless they were with their grandfather or father who lived here.
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Other places that are 55+ also have problems. I see in the Sunday newspaper every week 'On Top of the World' Condos in Clearwater for sale. They're very reasonable in the $75K to $150K range. I looked them up on the internet and found a message board. I started reading it, and most of the complaints were about young people living and renting and having parties and making noise and giving people a hard time, and the management doesn't do anything to enforce the housing rules.

You'll notice most of the retirement communities along Hwy 27 between Leesburg and Clermont advertise their golf courses in the newspaper. They have specials most of the time, and no mention of an age restriction. I haven't played any of those courses, but it seems a lot of local younger people are there probably on their golf course. I have very seldom played golf with younger people on our courses unless they were with their grandfather or father who lived here.
Could you explain this?
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I understand that 2
0% can be under 55. I don't understand how residents under 19 are living here, or, who is keeping track of HUD guidelines, to know how many people are living here, and the Villages promise, to screen everyone living here.
You should read all of post #3...................
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Could you explain this?
I believe that JohnW may be referring to the two golf courses in The Plantation and the one in Arlington Ridge. There is also Mission Inn, Sanctuary Ridge, etc.

These are 55+ communities and their golf courses are public. So are the restaurants there. Ironically, these courses are played often by Villagers I'm told when the courses in The Villages get too busy.

My son who works with me plays golf around here often on the public courses. He of course is well under 55, has a 7 handicap and lives in a smaller non 55+community a mile south of me nestled in between two other 55+ communities.

They have a teenage daughter, so of course they cannot live in a 55+ community. In a few years she will be over 18 years old and at that time if they so choose, they could buy and live in any 55+ community around here.

When I first moved down here I bought a home in a 55+ community. I was 48 years old. No one even asked our ages. I was told that 20% could own and live in the community as long as we did not have any kids living there less than 19. We did not.

A 20 year old person could buy a home in a 55+ community, and as long as they did not have anyone less than 19 living in the home it would be perfectly legal.

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Where did you find the police records of arrests of Village residents?
You don't. The Sun posts who was arrested, listing where every one arrested lives.
or example "Joe Smith, residing in The Villages, was arrested for shoplifting at Belk's".
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You might want to look at what TVLSI has been doing. many properties are purchased by investors and they can rent them out to whom they choose. Secondly there are homes purchased by people under 55. we have three neighbors who fit that age range.

Many of the villa's over in fenney were purchased strictly as investment properties. I was told that TVLSI has plans for townhouses multi-family dwellings and condo's ??????????

You have read on these pages and in the other online publications residents who have lamented that the 3rd generation is destroying the original villages's lifestyle concept.

This may be true because what marketing people told buyers in 1999 ...2000....2006....2008....has evolved as TV continued its build out.

Instead of having meaningful, relevant and logical dialogue concerning the preservation of the TV lifestyle some posters defaulted to their defense of TV and TVLSI. This has always been non-productive. so here we are

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I understand that 2
0% can be under 55. I don't understand how residents under 19 are living here, or, who is keeping track of HUD guidelines, to know how many people are living here, and the Villages promise, to screen everyone living here.
Please read post #3.
There IS NOT A SET percentage that can or cannot LIVE here.
Post #3 sums it up quite well.
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You might want to look at what TVLSI has been doing. many properties are purchased by investors and they can rent them out to whom they choose. Secondly there are homes purchased by people under 55. we have three neighbors who fit that age range.

Many of the villa's over in fenney were purchased strictly as investment properties. I was told that TVLSI has plans for townhouses multi-family dwellings and condo's ??????????

You have read on these pages and in the other online publications residents who have lamented that the 3rd generation is destroying the original villages's lifestyle concept.

This may be true because what marketing people told buyers in 1999 ...2000....2006....2008....has evolved as TV continued its build out.

Instead of having meaningful, relevant and logical dialogue concerning the preservation of the TV lifestyle some posters defaulted to their defense of TV and TVLSI. This has always been non-productive. so here we are

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Just because you have a lot of "youngsters" living near you doesn't mean that anything has changed or that the "third generation is destroying the original Villages Lifestyle". It probably means that folks near you exited stage right and are playing bridge with St. Peter and new folks have moved in. WHY in the world would anyone destroy a business plan that works so well?

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What Is the 80/20 Rule in Active Adult Communities?
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I understand that 2
0% can be under 55. I don't understand how residents under 19 are living here, or, who is keeping track of HUD guidelines, to know how many people are living here, and the Villages promise, to screen everyone living here.
My guess is that when folks go to Admin Hdqtrs to get their IDs the info for HUD re age is obtained from those applications.
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Just a question. I have seen over the last 3 months, police records from all 3 counties, of arrests of Village residents. How is it that, of the 60 or so people arrested, all but a few were under 55, and, some under 19. How could all these underage people be living in the Villages. The police reports say "resident of the Villages", not visitor.
Here we go again. The "rule" is that 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person under that age of 55.

That leaves a lot of room for people under age 55 to live here.

It's also illegal for anyone under the age of 19 to live here so that question is a bit more puzzling.

We do have three or four "family" villages that have no age restrictions. I'm guessing that the people who live in those might also be considered Villages residents.
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Here we go again. The "rule" is that 80% of the homes must be occupied by at least one person under that age of 55.

That leaves a lot of room for people under age 55 to live here.
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Sure does leave a lot of room.............80% under. Never heard that one before.

But again, I'm not a dentist.
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Sure does leave a lot of room.............80% under. Never heard that one before.

But again, I'm not a dentist.
Freudian slip?
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I understand that 2
0% can be under 55. I don't understand how residents under 19 are living here, or, who is keeping track of HUD guidelines, to know how many people are living here, and the Villages promise, to screen everyone living here.
Where did this 'screening process' come from ? Never heard that one before. Only way someone under 19 is living here "legally" is if they have special needs.
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