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acbosslady 04-09-2020 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Yucatan2 (Post 1742930)
And two groups just golfed through at the Chula Vista golf course. What makes them special? I know there is a “course closed “ sign at the starter shack, I guess they can’t read?
I imagine this is not the only course this is happening at.....

They should pull there village ID cards for six to one year privileges....

golfing eagles 04-09-2020 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by acbosslady (Post 1743229)
They should pull there village ID cards for six to one year privileges....

A little Draconian don't you think?

Good thing (for them) that you're NOT the "boss lady"

PS: nice first post

bebby17 04-09-2020 08:43 AM

golf
 
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Originally Posted by Yucatan2 (Post 1742930)
And two groups just golfed through at the Chula Vista golf course. What makes them special? I know there is a “course closed “ sign at the starter shack, I guess they can’t read?
I imagine this is not the only course this is happening at.....

awwwww tooooo bad the par 3 courses are i such bad condition its a wonder anyone would want to play them gotta love all u i saw u cry babies

tomhinz 04-09-2020 08:58 AM

STOP and just obey the LAW!

rustyp 04-09-2020 09:07 AM

Recognize your neighbor ?
Florida golfers caught ignoring social distancing rules at golf course - YouTube

tophcfa 04-09-2020 09:20 AM

Some people like to play very early in the AM and others prefer to play into sunset. If the courses are short on staff and need to reduce hours, why not alternate between closing early one day and opening late the next?

jrhood302 04-09-2020 09:26 AM

Get a life I am sure you obey all the rules dictated to you what is the difference between 1:45 and 2:00 That is approx 2 minutes per hole maybe some players play slower at 80 then 60

rustyp 04-09-2020 09:33 AM

Around 5 minute mark "mistake number 4" interesting.

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croughwell 04-09-2020 09:48 AM

WHAT????? More selfentitled Villagers!

Goldwingnut 04-09-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rollie (Post 1743057)
What is the reason given for closing the courses after 4pm. I saw an article and heard a radio report, and nether had a reason. Great reporting.

Rollie

From the District Weekly Bulliten
" Tee time hours are being modified to reflect the current available staffing levels of Executive Golf Operations. Hours will be from 7am through 4pm."

Goldwingnut 04-09-2020 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Graciegolden614 (Post 1743103)
It’s not a walking path. It’s a golf cart path and it is private property, not community property. Walk on sidewalks, streets, and multi use paths of which there are miles and miles to use

Actually, all the executive course north of SR44 are owned by either the SLCDD or VCCDD so they are technically public property not private property.

WickedMike 04-09-2020 10:04 AM

We golf an executive course yesterday and were the last group out, 3:53. Was enjoyable to just take our time and not push the group ahead or worry about holding up someone. Spoke with ambassador a few times and he was overseeing sneak on golfers and keeping them off. Must admit we took longer to play then what we normally do. Stay Safe all!

Tnbrewer 04-09-2020 10:06 AM

Turn the sprinklers on
That will do it! 😎

anothersteve 04-09-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1743205)
Are the championship courses, which are open to the public, not subsidized at all by our amenities fees? Are they not owned by The Villages? Certainly our amenities fees pay for the executive courses, so why should we not be allowed to walk the paths there before the first T-off?

I can understand liability problems with people walking and playing at the same time, but there shouldn’t be any stray golf balls at 6 am or after the final round of the day. It would be a lot safer than dodging speeding carts or walking on public roads in neighborhoods, and quieter and lovelier. It’s a bit like saying, “You can walk in the streets, so why should we let you walk in the park on the paths.”

Maybe, just maybe the golf courses are private property?

Steve

Marvic 1 04-09-2020 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by jrhood302 (Post 1743290)
Get a life I am sure you obey all the rules dictated to you what is the difference between 1:45 and 2:00 That is approx 2 minutes per hole maybe some players play slower at 80 then 60

Wrong, 4 mins per hole extra using your 2 hour game format....
Then why are Tee-Times 9 minutes apart with its taking you a little over 13 minutes to finish one hole?
The Ambassadors should start making these Slow-Pokes skip a hole or two to keep the game flowing as it should be....

drcar 04-09-2020 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1743205)
Are the championship courses, which are open to the public, not subsidized at all by our amenities fees? Are they not owned by The Villages? Certainly our amenities fees pay for the executive courses, so why should we not be allowed to walk the paths there before the first T-off?

I can understand liability problems with people walking and playing at the same time, but there shouldn’t be any stray golf balls at 6 am or after the final round of the day. It would be a lot safer than dodging speeding carts or walking on public roads in neighborhoods, and quieter and lovelier. It’s a bit like saying, “You can walk in the streets, so why should we let you walk in the park on the paths.”

It is a liability issue, I can not understand why that is so hard to grasp. Lets say you opt to walk the course at 6 AM, and the power sprinklers come on and knock you over. Or chemicals have been applied that may affect you. People would sue and sue and sue. Stay off the courses if you are not playing, it is really that simple!

hal195z 04-09-2020 11:48 AM

No Tespassing
 
I guess the courses need to put a sign at the starter shack and at the first T-box:

NO TRESPASSING
COURSE CLOSED
VIOLATERS WILL BE PROSECUTED

drcar 04-09-2020 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by tophcfa (Post 1743286)
Some people like to play very early in the AM and others prefer to play into sunset. If the courses are short on staff and need to reduce hours, why not alternate between closing early one day and opening late the next?

I guess when you manage the worlds largest single golfing community you can make the schedule for over 1200 retired employees. I know they would just love have their shifts changed on a daily bases.

drcar 04-09-2020 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by hal195z (Post 1743409)
I guess the courses need to put a sign at the starter shack and at the first T-box:

NO TRESPASSING
COURSE CLOSED
VIOLATERS WILL BE PROSECUTED

There are signs up stating coursed closed, but people think they are entitled, sometimes you can't fix stupid!

drcar 04-09-2020 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldwingnut (Post 1743324)
Actually, all the executive course north of SR44 are owned by either the SLCDD or VCCDD so they are technically public property not private property.

They are NOT public property per say, that's like saying the rec centers are public property and can be used at any time.

starflyte1 04-09-2020 12:04 PM

Steve, Isn’t last tee time 4?


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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743077)
What part of "the courses are closed for play after 4" doesn't everyone understand? You are trespassing after 4 and can't play. If caught, you will be asked leave on your own, or be "escorted" off.
Steve


BevSparks 04-09-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DavidStockhausen (Post 1742968)
Got kicked off an executive course while walking tonight. Ambassador said course closed. I said Golfers were playing there today. He said chemicals are dangerous eso they didn’t want exposure. I said course was treated a week ago. He said “real reason is they don’t have insurance and they own the golf courses so they can close them whenever they want!” Any comments?

I have a comment, the golf course is for people playing golf, not for recreational use when it's opened or closed. I can't tell you how many times in the summer people ride through the course toward golfers hitting balls at them. We've had to stop playing and wait for non-golfers to pass us before playing and have waited for people touring the course to ride far enough past us so we can tee off. Stay off the course if you are NOT playing golf!

BevSparks 04-09-2020 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743077)
What part of "the courses are closed for play after 4" doesn't everyone understand? You are trespassing after 4 and can't play. If caught, you will be asked leave on your own, or be "escorted" off.
Steve

The LAST Tee time closes at 4:00 so people will be playing after 4:00. If you play championship course and tee off at 4, you will not finish until 7:30 or 8..

photo1902 04-09-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743077)
What part of "the courses are closed for play after 4" doesn't everyone understand? You are trespassing after 4 and can't play. If caught, you will be asked leave on your own, or be "escorted" off.
Steve

That is simply not correct. The last tee time is 4pm.

BevSparks 04-09-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1743105)
Why should pedestrians be prohibited at times before the first T-time or after the final players of the day are over? I usually get up at 4:30, and I’d love to walk courses before the first T-off. I’d be done by 6:30. Some walkers or bike riders don’t play golf, even though their fees pay for the courses.

The championship courses are private property and not owned by you or any resident, so that is why you are not able to walk on the courses... only paying customers playing golf!

NJblue 04-09-2020 12:24 PM

I always find it amazing how willingly people here will follow rules whether the rules make sense or not. The only rationale that I have seen for keeping walkers off the executive courses is one of insurance. Really? Remember, we all pay for the use of the executive courses with our amenity fees. As Goldwingnut points out, these are not private courses - they are owned by the CDC a public entity. So, for some reason our insurance would no longer cover a person who is walking on the cart path but yet it would cover a golfer if he were playing on the course? Nonsense.

Can anyone give a logical reason why the extra evening hours can not be used for walking? We are paying for this amenity and walking is an encouraged activity that is easy to maintain social distancing. Or, are you willing to just follow whatever rules are set up like obedient sheep?

drcar 04-09-2020 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BevSparks (Post 1743426)
The LAST Tee time closes at 4:00 so people will be playing after 4:00. If you play championship course and tee off at 4, you will not finish until 7:30 or 8..

You are correct, the last tee time on both the execs and champs is 4. You can not make a tee time after four. If you start at four you can play until you finish.

Rosebud1949 04-09-2020 12:26 PM

Keep it up selfish golfers.. you will, by your actions, close ALL the courses to all...........despite warnings no face masks on over 200 folk our there... only 3 wearing them cared about their safety and the safety of others.. No Masks for sale....MAKE ONE.

anothersteve 04-09-2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 1743418)
Steve, Isn’t last tee time 4?

3:58 actually.
Steve

newwillo 04-09-2020 12:33 PM

I don't understand why people are upset that we can still golf. Precautions are being taken seriously and obeyed. And why wouldn't The Villages be happy to allow folks to walk or ride bikes on the closed courses. They are a safe place for us to get out for some needed fresh air and exercise and stay even more isolated than on the public streets and walkways. Why do we hear so many moaners and complainers.
We are so blessed and fortunate to be living here.

anothersteve 04-09-2020 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by photo1902 (Post 1743428)
That is simply not correct. The last tee time is 4pm.

Duh! Anyone on the course after the last tee time, in other words, following the last tee time, which is 3:58, is prohibited from being there. What is so hard to understand?
Steve

Marvic 1 04-09-2020 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by NJblue (Post 1743432)
I always find it amazing how willingly people here will follow rules whether the rules make sense or not.

Are you saying we should not obey and break the rules?

golfing eagles 04-09-2020 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rosebud1949 (Post 1743435)
Keep it up selfish golfers.. you will, by your actions, close ALL the courses to all...........despite warnings no face masks on over 200 folk our there... only 3 wearing them cared about their safety and the safety of others.. No Masks for sale....MAKE ONE.

Did you understand that the CDC's mask recommendation was only for those situations where a 6 foot distance could not be maintained? Grocery stores--yes. Lines to pick up take out food---probably. Riding in a golf cart----no. Now, you are free to wear a mask anytime and anywhere you like, but don't lecture others who are following the recommendation

newwillo 04-09-2020 12:49 PM

I totally agree with you Bev........... no reason why a pedestrian shouldn't be able to take a walk on a closed course. Anyone really, but ESPECIALLY, one who has paid his trail fees. ( if that is what is irritating people). The insurance excuse is not valid... It would work the same as for golfers...

photo1902 04-09-2020 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743444)
Duh! Anyone on the course after the last tee time, in other words, following the last tee time, which is 3:58, is prohibited from being there. What is so hard to understand?
Steve

Easy, big guy. I understand it just fine. You're the one muddying the water with "What part of "the courses are closed for play after 4" doesn't everyone understand? You are trespassing after 4 and can't play. If caught, you will be asked leave on your own, or be "escorted" off."

And technically, there are a bunch of 4:00 pm tee times, not just 3:58.

golfing eagles 04-09-2020 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743444)
Duh! Anyone on the course after the last tee time, in other words, following the last tee time, which is 3:58, is prohibited from being there. What is so hard to understand?
Steve

Please see posts #63,64, & 67

You can't tee off after 4, but you might be on the course at 8 if it is an 18 holes course

graciegirl 04-09-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Choro&Swing (Post 1743105)
Why should pedestrians be prohibited at times before the first T-time or after the final players of the day are over? I usually get up at 4:30, and I’d love to walk courses before the first T-off. I’d be done by 6:30. Some walkers or bike riders don’t play golf, even though their fees pay for the courses.

Because if you give some folks an inch, they take a mile. Then someone would ask...My toddler grands are here and they get up early so we let them go out to the sand trap with their toys. Unless you play golf, you don't understand that it is not a park.

starflyte1 04-09-2020 01:23 PM

I don’t think we are reading the same rule. Obviously, if you can tee off at 3:58, you are “legal” to finish your game.



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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743444)
Duh! Anyone on the course after the last tee time, in other words, following the last tee time, which is 3:58, is prohibited from being there. What is so hard to understand?
Steve


MSchad 04-09-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 1743487)
I don’t think we are reading the same rule. Obviously, if you can tee off at 3:58, you are “legal” to finish your game.

Of course you are allowed to finish if you tee off at 3:58. If you start after the last tee time you will be asked to leave. What is so hard to understand??

anothersteve 04-09-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by starflyte1 (Post 1743487)
I don’t think we are reading the same rule. Obviously, if you can tee off at 3:58, you are “legal” to finish your game.

That's what I said.

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Originally Posted by anothersteve (Post 1743444)
Anyone on the course after the last tee time, in other words, following the last tee time,
Steve



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