Spruce Creek is not TV's

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Isn’t that the point? Non villagers coming in…………

5 pages of comments - all this because the OP couldn't get a beer.

Asking for Villagers ID is crazy stuff. That's asking for trouble. We are not border guards. Welcome your neighbors. If they come by car, they are welcome but if they come by cart, they are trespassers?????

If you don’t want me to ask for your villager ID, then don’t ask me to let you use MY gate pass. It’s that simple.

The Rec department has employees who are supposed to do spot checks already. And - I've lived in my area for two years and have NEVER seen any rec center employee check my ID at the amenity pools.

So - we don't need community watch. We just need for the rec center administrators to make sure their employees are actually doing these spot checks.

And the other day I was at a country club pool and listened to two people standing next to me. One wanted to BUY the other one's guest pass. He said he could join, but it was soooo expensive and why spend all that money when he could help this other guy out and save himself some coin at the same time?

The guy was bold enough to say it loudly enough for me to hear the entire thing without my hearing aids on. Makes me wonder how many -other- people are cheating the system. If no one pays for membership, then they have to raise the prices to cover the costs - or reduce the quality, or fire a waiter - we had ONE waitress for the entire country club pool the whole 5 hours I was there. They promised they'd have more workers during the spring break week and they never brought anyone else in.

Selling gate cards, encouraging people to bypass the gate system, publishing here phone numbers and names of people who can rig your golf cart so it can get through that Walmart gate even if you don't live in the Villages...

The other thread talks about how people were raised in the 1950's and 1960's. I guess some of them mean they were raised to cheat, and justify their behavior by pretending that they earned the right to do so. So much for moral fibre.

The MMPs are amenities paid for in part by our amenities fee. Non-Villagers don't pay that fee. They are not entitled to access of those MMPs. Cars can't drive on the MMPs legally at all. So yes - cars are absolutely welcome into the Villages, on the public roads, which are legally accessible to the public, and paid for by county taxes.

Golf carts cannot legally cross 441, 44, 466, and 466a. They also cannot legally drive on Buena Vista Blvd, most (not all) of Morse Blvd, or El Camino Real. There is one spot somewhere at Spruce Creek, a whole other community north of the Villages, that has been granted an exemption by their county to cross 441 at one very specific crossroad. The only way people from Spruce Creek and Stonecrest can get to the Villages by GOLF CART is to illegally access a Villages golf cart path (not an MMP) via a gate pass that they're not entitled to possess. Once they get through that gate, they then have access to every MMP in the Villages. That they don't pay for. That we DO pay for.

We have enough traffic trouble during snowbird season. We don't need people who aren't supposed to be on those paths at all adding to the congestion.

Your post stated that Villagers should not drive carts outside of TV. I was pointing out that other developments have access to areas outside of their boundaries.

Non Villagers are using MMPs daily. 1000's of Visitors have access to legally use MMPs without guest Village IDs. There is no control of who uses these MMPs other than defined by type of Multi Modal and not who you are. If I were a passer by who stopped at The Villages and decided to rent a golf cart or ride my bike on a MMP there is nothing to stop me. If I happened to have a golf cart on a trailer, I could unload it in The Villages and ride the MMP's. I could store it in The Villages and use it whenever I wanted.
So, the thought that we pay for the MMP's and therefore only we can use is valid.

The valid part is the use of the so-called Walmart Gate . And I seriously doubt if that gate is being used by hordes of visitors. Then I question why that gate exists at all. Probably for the convenience of Villagers who desire access to medical, dining and shopping without use of cars. What of folks on the other side who might need access to medical, religious, and shopping?

Talking about gate on historical side, there no button on that gate. Far as I know that the only gate that you have to have card reader. They installed wall few years back when outrage started , then replaced it with metal gate.

Wrong, carts cross 466 and 441 legally (cross el Camino Reno and north end down from Walmart on 441.)

And you tied that all together especially 50s and 60s part, Got it figured out don’t you.

Hey, crutches are important.:)

You’re correct true gated community.

Did you ask him out he got out?