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bkcunningham1 10-10-2011 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bill-n-Brillo (Post 404587)
It was Professor Plum with the candlestick in the library...............:shocked:

:pepper2:

Bill :)

I don't want to laugh and make fun if something serious happened or if someone was really hurt. BUT, that was hilarious! ROFL

SALYBOW 10-10-2011 07:06 PM

I was there
 
We were leaving the theatre and on the side of the square across from Hagendas a red SUV stopped, a man jumped out and hit him over the head. He was on the street bleeding so people called 911. Many emergency vehicle arrived and put him on a backboard and took him away. He was probably in his 40s or early 50s so I wondered if he was not a Villager. It was raining at the time so there was blood all around his head but people put something on his head to stop the blood.

buggyone 10-10-2011 07:10 PM

Sorry, Sally, that does not sound credible. It would have been reported in BOTH the Orlando Sentinel and Daily Sun.

Pturner 10-10-2011 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mac9 (Post 404556)
I was in RJ Gator's saturday evening when we saw the police lights outside. Then the EMTs arrived. I walked outside and there I met my friend who was visibly shaken. He had been crossing the square near Red Sauce when it happened.Do not think that this incident did not happen. It did, and I saw the aftermath. There were many people at the outside bar at Red Sauce and the police were questioning them.

Hi Mac,
Did your friend actually see the led pipe and the beating, or just it's aftermath? Was he told what had just happened, or did he see the crime committed?

If he saw a pipe beating, what were the approx. age ranges of the perp and the victim? Was the perp driving a car or was he a passenger? Did your friend call the police? Were poice already there? Was he interviewed by police?

SALYBOW 10-10-2011 07:14 PM

As I said, I was there
 
Credible or not, that is what happened. And I WAS THERE.

Posh 08 10-10-2011 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 404600)
Sorry, Sally, that does not sound credible. It would have been reported in BOTH the Orlando Sentinel and Daily Sun.

Why wouldn't it sound credible?

Freeda 10-10-2011 07:26 PM

We were leaving the movies with some friends around 9:30 PM from seeing The Ides of March that had started at 7:30 PM and we were parked at the square, across from Nantucket Bay. We saw the lights from what looked like at least two emergency or police vehicles at the side of the square that is nearest the lake, and people had congregated down there, but we didn't go down there or talk to anyone who seemed to know what had happened.

buggyone 10-10-2011 07:27 PM

It does not sound credible because there was no mention of it in either the Orlando Sentinel or Daily Sun.

Obvioulsy, someone got injured in some manner and the story grew and grew to someone jumping out of a car and beating someone else with a lead pipe. This is just human nature.

IAMDMRAE 10-10-2011 07:28 PM

That's a pretty dumb comment!

Posh 08 10-10-2011 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 404613)
It does not sound credible because there was no mention of it in either the Orlando Sentinel or Daily Sun.

Why would something like that be mentioned in the papers, it wasn't murder after all.

IAMDMRAE 10-10-2011 07:32 PM

Pipe incident on square
 
I was referring to the comment suggesting that we pack a gun on the square. That was a stupid comment, the injured guy could be maimed for life.

buggyone 10-10-2011 07:34 PM

If you are not in The Villages, you would not understand how the Orlando Sentinel has such a dislike for The Villages.

A violent crime such as someone being beaten by a lead pipe at Lake Sumter Landing in our peaceful community would have been spotlighted on both the newspaper in Orlando and on television in Orlando.

Posh 08 10-10-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 404617)
If you are not in The Villages, you would not understand how the Orlando Sentinel has such a dislike for The Villages.

A violent crime such as someone being beaten by a lead pipe at Lake Sumter Landing in our peaceful community would have been spotlighted on both the newspaper in Orlando and on television in Orlando.

Why don't you just call the Sheriff's Office or Police Dept that has jurisdiction of the area in question and ask, out of concern for public safety, what happened? Lay all the speculation to rest.

gatherer47 10-10-2011 08:30 PM

packing a gun on the square? reminds me of the old All in the Family episode where Archie suggests the flight attendants pass out guns as passengers board to prevent hijackings

Larry Wilson 10-10-2011 08:34 PM

Hello
 
Salybow was there, she should not be doubted. I repeat Salybow was there!

Tons of things happen everyday that don't make the paper. The Sun is really just for helping sales.

Orlando Sentinel doesn't have reporters in here.

There is good media and there is media to sell houses.

I have had my picture in the Sun about 20 times. Sometimes two or three pictures in the same issue.(sports)
In the beginning we use to cut the picture out and save them. Now that everyone we know has had at least one picture in the paper, its no big deal.
The Sun reporters are at the clubs, sport events,( however they never report anyone getting seriously hurt which happens) celebrations at the square etc. In our years here we have seen a ton of car accidents and never once did I see a reporter.

I just have to say that most news is passed by people being there. It is not like any paper I have ever seen before. By the way, look for me in the paper for stomping down divits at half time during the polo game. There was a reporter there for that.

whartonjelly 10-10-2011 08:52 PM

It was a figment of someones imagination? The talk show host did it with a microphone!

kb8tpw 10-10-2011 09:04 PM

Larry pegged it with "There is good media and there is media to sell houses." When I write check for the Sun I cringe and say "Oh another donation to the sales media of the developer. I'd hope that this sort of sales media overhead would have been included in the price of the property, as is the usual and normal modes operande, but not in The Villages, you just keep giving.

If I were a rich retired newspaper person with unlimited funding I'd bring on some competition, but fat chance....

I do get good exercise by taking it to the garage to prepare for putting out with the trash.

ricthemic 10-10-2011 09:31 PM

Curious tbuggyone?
 
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Originally Posted by buggyone (Post 404617)
If you are not in The Villages, you would not understand how the Orlando Sentinel has such a dislike for The Villages.

A violent crime such as someone being beaten by a lead pipe at Lake Sumter Landing in our peaceful community would have been spotlighted on both the newspaper in Orlando and on television in Orlando.

How would your Washington Post handle this? I think you are right. Your Post wd have headlined it also.
All this aside, as Russ from Boston asked and I agree... WHAT Happened?

villagegolfer 10-10-2011 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by kb8tpw (Post 404638)
Larry pegged it with "There is good media and there is media to sell houses." When I write check for the Sun I cringe and say "Oh another donation to the sales media of the developer. I'd hope that this sort of sales media overhead would have been included in the price of the property, as is the usual and normal modes operande, but not in The Villages, you just keep giving.

If I were a rich retired newspaper person with unlimited funding I'd bring on some competition, but fat chance....

I do get good exercise by taking it to the garage to prepare for putting out with the trash.

I like the paper and think it does a good job for what it is. If I want bad news I go online to the city and state that I came from and then I'm grateful to be here. Don't like the paper, then don't buy it. I think the New York Times is fish wrap, so I do not buy it.

PennBF 10-10-2011 10:16 PM

Agree
 
I agree the paper serves it's purpose and the NY Times is a fish wrapper..
If the developer wants his own paper and TV station that is certaintly his
option. He also has the VHA so he has a number of ways to communicate
and the POA Bulletin is meant to bring independent knowledge to the
residents and it does it very well. As far as "crime" is concerned for those
considering moving to The Villages it would be appropriate to realize the population is now around 85,000 and there was an alleged assualt at a
square. I call that a pretty darn safe place to live. Where else do you know of a city of 85,000 that has a single assualt and it receives a number of comments in the local Talk of the Villages. We have gone to the squares
(just drive cart aound them) about 4-5 times a week in the evening and
I don't recall seeing any disturbance. Where else in a city of 85,000 is it
so safe a woman could walk around at midnight and be pretty safe?
It is a great place to live and we owe the Developer some appreciation for
the work he and his staff have done.:welcome:

villagegolfer 10-10-2011 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PennBF (Post 404661)
I agree the paper serves it's purpose and the NY Times is a fish wrapper..
If the developer wants his own paper and TV station that is certaintly his
option. He also has the VHA so he has a number of ways to communicate
and the POA Bulletin is meant to bring independent knowledge to the
residents and it does it very well. As far as "crime" is concerned for those
considering moving to The Villages it would be appropriate to realize the population is now around 85,000 and there was an alleged assualt at a
square. I call that a pretty darn safe place to live. Where else do you know of a city of 85,000 that has a single assualt and it receives a number of comments in the local Talk of the Villages. We have gone to the squares
(just drive cart aound them) about 4-5 times a week in the evening and
I don't recall seeing any disturbance. Where else in a city of 85,000 is it
so safe a woman could walk around at midnight and be pretty safe?
It is a great place to live and we owe the Developer some appreciation for
the work he and his staff have done.:welcome:

Wow, I think this is the first time you and me have agreed. I am feeling faint.:bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

fraurauch 10-11-2011 05:37 AM

It hit the Daily Sun this morning. According to the article, the victim does not remember what happened and the police are asking for eye witnesses to come forward.

graciegirl 10-11-2011 06:28 AM

Police were called at 9:32 Saturday evening at the intersection of Lakeshore Drive and Canal...(right on the square) I just read it too. He is a 41 year old man from Summerfield. He was taken to Leesburg Hospital with head injuries, was found semi concious lying in the middle of the street with a crowd around him.

I am betting it was someone who didn't pay their drug money. I can't think why else someone would jump out of a vehicle and whack someone on the head.

What do you think?

Wonder why it took so long to appear?

hedoman 10-11-2011 06:36 AM

The Sun this morning said a whole lot of nothing. I thought they interviewed people on the scene, got license numbers etc. 41 YO Male from a neighboring town....... Did the "Village Posse" get'em?

:boom:

Posh 08 10-11-2011 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 404685)
Police were called at 9:32 Saturday evening at the intersection of Lakeshore Drive and Canal...(right on the square) I just read it too. He is a 41 year old man from Summerfied. He was taken to Leesburg Hospital with head injuries, was found semi concious lying in the middle of the street with a crowd around him.

I am betting it was someone who didn't pay their drug money. I can't think why else someone would jump out of a vehicle and wack someone on the head.

What do you think?

Wonder why it took so long to appear?

Good morning Gracie, could be triangle among staff of a restaurant, or a bad sport over a comment made about a team loss or any such things, but he ain't talkin it appears.

graciegirl 10-11-2011 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by hedoman (Post 404686)
The Sun this morning said a whole lot of nothing. I thought they interviewed people on the scene, got license numbers etc. 41 YO Male from a neighboring town....... Did the "Village Posse" get'em?

:boom:


Now Hedoman, I always agree with you, but at this point what else could be said?? Journalism students all know speculation isn't allowed. If he had been there, (the writer) than he could have reported what people saw. ....Or what they speculated. At this point what else can be said? He was wearing an earring and was heavily tattooed and had on droopy shorts? (For the record, I just made that part up)

Then I would have jumped to conclusions....

Hedo? When are you coming by to see us?? I know. When you get a little more unpacked?



As usual.

graciegirl 10-11-2011 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 404685)
Police were called at 9:32 Saturday evening at the intersection of Lakeshore Drive and Canal...(right on the square) I just read it too. He is a 41 year old man from Summerfield. He was taken to Leesburg Hospital with head injuries, was found semi concious lying in the middle of the street with a crowd around him.

I am betting it was someone who didn't pay their drug money. I can't think why else someone would jump out of a vehicle and whack someone on the head.

What do you think?

Wonder why it took so long to appear?


bump

rubicon 10-11-2011 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by graciegirl (Post 404685)
Police were called at 9:32 Saturday evening at the intersection of Lakeshore Drive and Canal...(right on the square) I just read it too. He is a 41 year old man from Summerfield. He was taken to Leesburg Hospital with head injuries, was found semi concious lying in the middle of the street with a crowd around him.

I am betting it was someone who didn't pay their drug money. I can't think why else someone would jump out of a vehicle and whack someone on the head.

What do you think?

Wonder why it took so long to appear?

Graciegirl I made mention in an earlier post that the incident was drug related. After hearing the bit about the victim not recalling I am convinced it was drug related. It seems that the surrounding areas are a hot bed of drug related activity. If I am wrong you know by the guy's response that something of a dubious nature occurred .

I am gld that the Daily Sun at least made mention of this event. The Daily sun has an obligation to keep its readers informed and thus aware of safety issues so that they can better protect themselves. By this I do not mean carrying a gub but just being aware that bad actors do exist among us and we all nee to stay alert.

Posh 08 10-11-2011 07:15 AM

Anybody know if there are security cameras in that area? If so I'm sure the Investigators are having a field day with this one. And if no cameras, how come?

paulandjean 10-11-2011 07:31 AM

You cannot have cameras everywhere.Think,just two guys got into it.Do I care why? No Drugs, love triangle do not know.No biggee

Posh 08 10-11-2011 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by paulandjean (Post 404708)
You cannot have cameras everywhere.Think,just two guys got into it.Do I care why? No Drugs, love triangle do not know.No biggee

In public areas you can and IMO should have them. But then I lean towards law enforcement and deterrents.

buggyone 10-11-2011 07:41 AM

In another thread regarding "concealed weapon permits", there were several posters who indicated they always carried their pistols while in The Villages at night. What kind of chaotic damage would have been caused if one of those "loose cannons" (no pun intended) had been there and started opening fire?

mrsanborn 10-11-2011 07:43 AM

Just curious as to why the injured was taken to Leesburg instead of The Villages hospital. Lack of insurance, trauma unit?

memason 10-11-2011 07:43 AM

I guess there's 2 issues that bubble up for me, concerning this incident:
  1. It happened in "our" town square.
  2. It appears to be a "targeted" assault; rather than "Random".
Not sure I need to know all the details, but I certainly hope this was isolated incident.

Dick and Lin 10-11-2011 07:47 AM

How do we access the web cams in TV.

memason 10-11-2011 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dick and Lin (Post 404722)
How do we access the web cams in TV.

Here's a link to LSL. SS link is at the bottom.

http://www.thevillages.com/lifestyle/cam_lsl.asp

Enjoy....

rubicon 10-11-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Posh 08 (Post 404698)
Anybody know if there are security cameras in that area? If so I'm sure the Investigators are having a field day with this one. And if no cameras, how come?

posh 08 Very good question. Video cameras are vital in deterring crime and also in the investigation of criminal acts. We witness all the time on television. More and more businesses are become aware of the importance of utilizing videos to protect their employees, customers and assets

nitehawk 10-11-2011 08:08 AM

Did it happen or did it not I am so confused !!!!
The orlando sentinel hates TV --Why --- do you think they are jealous ? WHY WHY
The sun calls itself a newpaper --BS--All the wonderful news thats fit to print
Yes there are some of us TOTVs who carry our guns-ALL THE TIME -
When you run short on Kool-aide - there are some TOTVs who will help
Just think were no first time posters to disbelieve
If someone posted that they had called the PD and this was there response ---
its would still be third hand - so maybe the PD could post on TOTV -- but that would not be belived - it really is not the PD or this is there first post -unbelievable
Just keep drinking the Kool-Aide and keep looking through rose colored glasses
Life is just a bowl or cherries

boobear51751 10-11-2011 09:10 AM

This type of thing is why The Villages no longer allows New Years Eve gatherings at either square. It use to be a great time had by all, but then you get a couple of idiots with club, guns and a fist added to the evening and poof there went out New Years Eve gatherings. What a shame. We also have a great deal of drug use here in The Villages, legal and not legal. So for those of you who think Spanish Springs Square and the new Brownswood Square are or will bring in the creeps from the outside, this happened at SL.

texasfal 10-11-2011 09:15 AM

It's in today's Daily Sun.


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