I was addressing it from E 911 uniformed response scenario. Happens all the time. Not neighborhood ERT. As his/her neighbor, me...not ERT, would break in the door. Have had to in the past as non uniformed for a neighbor (outside TV of course). Here in TV, an especially litigious society, I'd do the same and deal with the noise later. Again sir, not as a member of the neighborhood ERT!

Who's looking for a flaw?

Certainly not me! I'm one of the biggest proponent of the program!

I just was making a comment about how some people are loathe to give out their email. I see it daily, in my practice...

And THAT is why I am trying "very hard" to get people to understand how the system works!

I've been "unlucky" enough to have performed CPR on several occasions.

It's very stressful for the responders. Thank god, they all survived (but one succumbed to a 2nd MI later that evening...)

I hope that no one has to go thru that (either as a patient or as a volunteer...)

Please... Don't confuse the issue with factual information...

A lot of friendly fire on this one my friend. They've been on this for so many weeks...theyve stopped reading before posting. Like you, I've been nothing but supportive of the volunteers. Maybe theyre keeping this thread open for the advertisers to chime in!

Sorry didn’t mean to step on your toes.

Please return to topic of thread AED Collection

I’m in the village of St. Catherine. I recall we were asked to donate $250. I know there are those on fixed incomes that simply can’t spare $250. so I gave $500. I ask those in the villages gathering funds for AEDs, if you can spare more than requested please do so. Yes, some will not donate because they don’t believe in AEDs, some will not donate because they’re cheap but some really can’t afford to. It is for the latter that you would be donating a little extra.

Our villa community quickly solicited donations and installed a unit months after being built in early 2023 - I think most contributed, but it was made known which owners failed to contribute - that part I didn’t care for. I try and stay clear of anything that “divides” neighbors, or something that could be used as fodder for “gossip”.

Whomever disclosed the names of those who donated vs those who didn't should be ashamed of themselves...

The residents of St. Catherine were asked to contribute $100. Like yourself many contributed more. We had fantastic participation, not only financially but also in volunteers to run the program and volunteers to be trained in CPR and the proper use of the AED.

Agree
The graphic that was posted on this thread earlier only showed streets and percentages in terms of participation. I was ok with that. To hear that specific names were distributed ....as if to embarrass neighbors smacks of petty retaliation. Those responsible should not be the figureheads....nor allowed to participate in such a program that is based on competence, respect for others in need and compassionate care. Embarrassing

Thank you for the clarification. I guess I covered for 4 others that were not able to contribute.

And that's why they named the thread "guilt" ?

Where is the "guilt" in paying extra to help others?

Absolutely agree. The Villa neighborhood should hold a rebellion & displace the poor decision makers. They can even quote you for the reason 'a program based on competence, respect & compassion'

Posting paying extra accomplished what ? That is not how the secret Santa game is played. That is exactly what this thread was about - are we shaming others for whatever reason they did not contribute ? The thread started with a slide of who contributed by sections (cut to fairly small levels) of the St John's neighborhood. Not a good way to promote unity. Was not the purpose of the slide to promote quilt ? If not what - ego trip ? Publishing a slide with where the entire neighborhood was relative to the goal would be appropriate. Of what value was cutting the data down to the street level ? Maybe the intent is to prioritize response by contribution (LOL).

I suspect, rustyp , that you are correct.

Wonder if this is an issue for Buttonwood! ;)

The poster just posted what they did. You read it. Mission accomplished...

To assign some nefarious reason for it is silly...

Mr. rustyp, you have completely missed the purpose of my post. It was two fold, first you CAN donate more than the voluntary assessment and secondly it was a reminder that not everyone has spare cash lying around. The stereotype that everyone in TV is a billionaire is highly overestimated. I disagree with the chart of “non-contributors” for that very reason. We don’t know why some don’t contribute so it’s unfair to point fingers. However, in fairness to the OP, I don’t think they have published actual names of those that contribute or don’t contribute. How one can feel guilty for helping those that can’t help themselves is a new one, only on TOTV.

I’ve read rustyp’s post completely differently.

Agree

Congratulations - you are smarter than the average bear.

Maybe an organizer of the program in Richmond can respond as to whether they posted the names of those that chose not to contribute....and why? If they didn’t, non issue.

Clarification of Information on how the AED programs work in The Villages
 

First…Thank you for your military service!

When you call 911 in The Villages a dispatcher will answer your call. They will establish knowledge of what is happening and electronically notify the correct emergency teams. If this caller informs the dispatcher that the person they are calling has NO pulse and NO breathing (called a cardio arrest event) the dispatcher will immediately notify both The Villages Medical Emergency Rescue teams at the same time they will notify all village trained responders that live within 1/2 mile from the patient with a text message from Pulse Point Application to respond. This Pulse Point shows on a Map where the patient is located and the closest AED system from them. On an average in 2023 in the Villages have 6.28 responders going to every Cardio Arrest event (66 events). In our Village all responders will show up at the emergency property within a targeted 3 minute response and immediately start CPR while one of the responders will go retrieve an AED unit and brings it back to the emergency property. FYI…when CPR is done right it can be exhausting so with other responders there at the home they will take turns administering CPR.

Please note that the villages trained responders will only be dispatched to Cardio Arrest Events. The AED responders are NOT trained to treat heart attacks or stokes. We are not trained to issue any injection medications…EMRs are trained to do this work. All dispatchers stay on line with the 911 caller asking them to turn porch lights on and unlock the doors.

An example for December 2023 The Villages totally, there were 18 cardiac Arrest with 16 AED group cardiac arrests.

Hope this clarifies The Villages AED program!

That’s how it works for SOME Villages AED programs. We have Ready Alert. We do not dispatch everyone within a half mile. We dispatch the responders within a defined zone. We have over 100 responders in our village. We don’t want them all showing up. In fact once the first seven show up we start turning people away. In our response we stop and grab any AED on our way to the incident. It takes about 20 seconds. Again since we’re dispatching a defined zone not all 19 of our AED’s are going to get picked up. We leave the box door open so anyone that follows can see that it’s already been picked up. We average under 2 minutes for a responder to arrive and under 2.5 minutes for an AED to arrive. We almost always have two or more AED’s show up. The bottom line is we get people and equipment there very quickly. But you need to realize that not every program works the same.