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03-31-2024 07:30 AM |
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Originally Posted by rustyp
(Post 2317165)
Are you supporting my point that the real benefit would be trained CPR neighbors not an AED device ?
I'm having a hard time believing that a neighborhood AED has a high probability of actual shock administered within a four minute window. Put a time estimate on these events prior to administration:
- Realization that the event is serious enough that one should place the 911 call
- Retrieving a phone and placing the call
- Relaying the information to the 911 operator
- 911 operator relays info to paramedics
- Paramedic triggers phone calls to trained AED neighbors.
- AED trained neighbors digest info
- AED trained neighbor gather personal belongings - keys, phone, hat, jacket, etc.
- AED trained neighbor leaves house (by foot / golf cart ?) and fetches AED
- AED trained neighbor goes from AED station to the house of victim
- AED trained neighbor communicates apron arrival at the house about situation
- AED trained neighbor hooks up device
- AED device does self diagnosis
- AED button is pushed
Is it possible all this in 4 minutes from the event start - maybe under ideal conditions
What percentage of time will all these steps occur in a private home situation (not the town square, rec center, etc) within the four minute window - my opinion very low percentage.
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Clearly OP is not familiar with how the process actually happens. Others have helped them understand how incorrect (and incomplete) that timeline is.
One major point being suggested is that the trained people responding are not capable of actually getting to the victim and performing CPR in a timely manner. That concept is ridiculous.
From the time the 911 operator gets the call, to the info being sent via Pulse Point simultaneously to the FD and all trained resident's phones near the call, and those residents begin heading to the location might take 15 seconds in the daytime. Obviously a little longer at night but still quickly. Neighbors will arrive and start CPR immediately. More people will arrive and all will pitch in with doing other tasks, and trading out who is actually hands on. CPR FIRST, ASAP. That's what happens to save a life.
Shortly, when another person arrives with an AED, it gets set up right away. Since it's a computer, it will analyze the heart rhythm and shock if necessary. Cannot do that via CPR.
AED also evaluates the quality of CPR being performed. It will say things like "press harder" or "press faster". There's no guessing about "is this the right form". No opinions. It's 100% factual information to direct people how to do CPR better. That equates to a more likely chance for a save.
Starting to understand the value of the AED yet?
This is the best response medical science has developed. It has success because of all the pieces are working together. Multiple people getting to patient quickly to immediately start CPR. Having state of the art equipment available to assist efforts. Having paramedics en-route to provide advanced life support when they get there.
Without the AED program, the patient likely would not receive CPR until the medics arrive. Most likely, things are already too late.
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